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Past Mistakes

QuickeSilver

Jan 26, 2005, 1:25 PM
Has anyone not learned from the past mistakes of the V710?
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HeroPsychoDreamer

Jan 26, 2005, 2:54 PM
No ****, this phone is the same thing as the V710!! Except EV-DO, big whoop, what does that matter when the rest of the phone blows? The camera is gonna be **** cause Motorola doesnt know how to implement CCD sensors so theyre still stuck ont he ****ty CMOS's. And the Bluetooth will be crippled yet again. What is everyone so excited about?
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BigRob

Jan 27, 2005, 11:23 PM
Yet, another immature poster. It seems they are growing in numbers.
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HeroPsychoDreamer

Jan 28, 2005, 1:22 AM
Since when does stating the truth qualify as being immature?
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iconic

Jan 28, 2005, 2:43 AM
Well I could see if the V710 really did suck that it would be a truthful quote, however not everyone agrees with your thoughts so if you don't have anything positive to say, go say it in a Nokia forum.
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HeroPsychoDreamer

Jan 28, 2005, 10:10 AM
I'm guessing you didn't know this, but this is an open and public forum. People are allowed to post what they want, where they want, and about what they want.

My opinion is that the V710 sucks, terrible phone. But then again, what Motorola isnt? People would like to tell themselves that the V710 is a good phone so they don't have to feel like idiots for actually buying one.

So yeah, when this forum becomes strictly for positive posts only about the V710/E815, I'd consider taking you up on your proposal for me to leave, but until then you'll be seeing me around. 😉
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QuickeSilver

Jan 28, 2005, 12:21 PM
Well Said HeroPsychoDreamer eveyone here is entilted to there own opinion. These forums are here to give everyone an idea of what the masses think about the products listed here, which to be unbiased have to include both the positive and the negative points of view.
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iconic

Jan 28, 2005, 2:17 PM
Your outlook is wonderful except it has no true technical input. These forums are built to inform and answer questions for those interested in this phone. I apologize if you guys have nothing better to do than ridicule those who actually do like this phone. Motorola has been making great phones for years and a great contributor to the business. A couple mistakes on their part and they are the anti-christ. I can't help what you think but like I said this phone isn't even out yet and you have no info on it and therefore you cannot make a knowledge based criticism. All reports say that the camera improved and memory increased and for everything else just wait.
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QuickeSilver

Jan 28, 2005, 4:25 PM
I understand your point of view and what you are saying Iconic, I just think it would be really sad for everyone to get hyped up over this phone considering the problems its predecessor had. I am willing to give the phone a chance but I will be leary about this phone until I hear a good review from someone who has actually had the chance to use it.
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jerry 12

Jan 28, 2005, 8:21 PM
i have the moto v 710 with uscc & i like it. 🙂 🙂
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HeroPsychoDreamer

Jan 29, 2005, 12:17 AM
I'm very happy for you that you do, everyone deserves to like what they have.

But I myself have every right to criticize it before it's even released. In my opinion the V710 is crap in its purest form. What does it have that no other Moto doesn't? What sets it apart? Nothing. The E815 has EV-DO going for it, that's about it. But there's not much going for the rest of the phone. Motorola claimed that the V710's camera was good, that turned out to be false. So why would I take the plunge and believe them that they improved the camera? If that was their definition of good, I can't imagine what their definition of "improved" is. It's sad to think they believed the V710's camera was even acceptable enough to release the phone.
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iconic

Jan 30, 2005, 4:10 AM
It's true everyone should have there own opinion and get it out here to help those that want to be more knowledgeable about this phone. However you shouldn't shut something down just because it isn't perfect. The V710 has its good points and bad. The camera isn't the greatest 1.3 MP I have ever seen, but the keywords are Camera Phone. The Samsung MM-A700 said to be one of the best in its class has a great camera on it however in comparison to the Moto has a slower shutter speed which makes taking any picture, harder. The 710's MP3 player is a great achievement, not only does it have a pretty loud speaker, but it has a great sound at the same time. The flash could be a little brighter but so could the sun on a few days. It's a solid ph...
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HeroPsychoDreamer

Jan 30, 2005, 7:12 PM
I'm not shutting down something because it's not perfect. I'm shutting down something because it's incapable of passing the borderline of half-way decent (this is my opinion).

And you say why visit the forum if I don't like the phone? Because I happen to be very knowledgable about the V710 as well as the E815, having handled and played around them both for some time. So in the event someone may have a question pertaining to one of these phone, I can attempt to answer their question to the best of my ability.

As for LG, I wouldn't dare tread that territory either. You "Motorola junkies" may salivate over the phone and the ideas this phone brings as much as your lil hearts desire, don't let my opinions get in the way.

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ygbhen

Jan 31, 2005, 6:48 PM
Come on heropsycodreamer dude! Do not sugar coat it for these guys. The V710 was a joke. I spent months waiting for it to come out and was more than disappointed when it finally did. It was made of some of the cheapest materials I had ever seen. The camera was just as half-assed as the one in the V220 and Verizon pulled the wool over our eyes about the bluetooth. Im sure it will be half decent but the high end LG will coming out this week will be better this new Motorola, the same way the 7000 was better than the V710. Sorry to burst anyone's bubble.
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HeroPsychoDreamer

Jan 31, 2005, 6:53 PM
I completely agree that the v710 is complete crap. But obviously some of these v710 fans can't handle a negative opinion.

If they like the phone, I'll let them like it. I stated my opinion of it, I'm not trying to convince them of anything. They stated theirs, and luckily they're not trying to convince me of anything.

But yes, I do completely agree with you that the Moto v710 was an awful excuse for a phone.

Maybe this was just my cousin's v710 and mine, but what was that hissing on the other end of the phone? Did you have people complain about that? People always told me there was some hissing when talking to me on my v710. Same with my cousin. Thank god I, unlike my cousin didn't buy the phone, I'd feel sorry for myself if ...
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wabmorgan

Jan 31, 2005, 11:35 PM
If the V710 is an example of this.... there had better be some MAJOR improvements to this phone if they don't expect the same complaints!!!!!
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iconic

Feb 1, 2005, 2:45 AM
Finally The Icon has come back to the forum. Well I have to say, "wow". A hissing sound huh, never quite heard that one but ok. The V710 works great. Everything I wanted this phone to do it has done. I am sorry but it will not mop your floor and it will only act as a mirror if you shine it up all nice and pretty boys. I have been selling phones for seven yearsand I consider myslef somewhat a phone junkie. I love LG and Samsung they make great CDMA phones, not going to lie, thats why they are ranked 1 and 2. The VX-7000 was wonderful, camera was ok, not as nice as Sprint's VM4050 but close. I love the A670, however cutting video capabilities out of that model was a horrible idea. Motorola strives to be a company that holds up. From ...
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PooFlinger1

Feb 1, 2005, 9:41 AM
Ive had the v710 for over 4 months now. The only complaint that I have is the camera, but if your buying a phone just for a camera, then you are an idiot in my opinion. It's like going to a steak house just for a salad. You are ignoring the entree for a side dish. Second, nobody has any proof that the 815 will have crippled bluetooth. And everyone bitches about the crippled bluetooth when the v710 can still do just about everything that a non crippled phone can. You can still transfer images and mp3s to the phone using the transflash card. I've heard alot of people bitching about the crippled bluetooth because it makes it harder to do stuff for free, well, all I have to say is get over it. If the only reason you are looking for a pho...
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BigRob

Feb 1, 2005, 11:24 PM
All I have to say to that is nokia makes a damn good GSM phone. All bars all over the place!!!!
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BigRob

Jan 28, 2005, 8:29 PM
I speaking about your inability to contrust a sentence without using a curse word. Very immature....
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HeroPsychoDreamer

Jan 29, 2005, 12:11 AM
And you go around pointing this out about people to simply make yourself look better as well as feel better about yourself like you're in some way superior. It's sad, but I'd rather be what I am than ever be what you are.

You obviously don't understand that some people get themselves across in different ways, I may use curse words in the process of getting myself across. That's not immature. That happens to be a part of my persona at times.

Do you feel special when you go around calling people immature?

My sympathys go out to you BigRob, they truly do. Good luck.
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SForsyth01

Jan 30, 2005, 6:53 PM
I agree with you that it is not immature to use curse words to get your point across. But this is definately not the place to do that, unless someone attacks you first. And that is not the case here.

The use of curse words in the way that you used them here, while it may be mistaken as immature, is more the signs of a severe lack of education and professionalism.

I feel very sorry for you if this is the way you communicate on a daily basis. Good luck getting anywhere in life that way.
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HeroPsychoDreamer

Jan 30, 2005, 7:03 PM
Wow, I never knew it was possible to judge a person just by one single post on a forum. I'd say that's quite an immture move in itself.

And there's no need to feel sorry for anyone. When it comes to a point where I need to show professionalism, I show it. My attitude has gotten me pretty far, and not the attitude you've judged me by from one single post.

If that's the manner in which you judge people, I think I should be the one feeling sorry for you. Good luck.
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SForsyth01

Jan 31, 2005, 8:34 AM
I do not feel that I judged you by one single post at all. I took all of your postings in this forum as a whole.

If I would have been judging you by one single post, my message would have been posted way before now.
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HeroPsychoDreamer

Jan 31, 2005, 9:51 AM
So that's all it takes to a judge a person?

Personally, I'd like to get to know a person personally before I judge them, not judge them on a handful of posts made one a forum. It sounds like the more respectable and logical thing to do, but obviously that's not your sort of thing. Which is more than okay with me, it's not like your applied thoughts mean the slightest thing to me. That said, have a great life! 😉
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BigRob

Jan 31, 2005, 4:36 PM
If this issue hasn't bothered you in anyway your original reply would have been the last.
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HeroPsychoDreamer

Jan 31, 2005, 4:38 PM
The same could be said for you.

And I never said this issue never bothered, I said it didn't matter to me what he was saying. Slow down there on your readin', makes it alot easier to catch these things. 😉
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Pictor

Jan 31, 2005, 2:28 PM
HeroPsychoDreamer said:
Except EV-DO, big whoop, what does that matter when the rest of the phone blows? The camera is gonna be **** cause Motorola doesnt know how to implement CCD sensors so theyre still stuck ont he ****ty CMOS's.


You can't get a good camera with a little lens. There is a reason many pros use glass that weigh in at pounds and not fractions of a gram. Since a phone to me is first and foremost a phone I'm glad they went with a CMOS. Yes CMOS introduces a litte more noise but it uses less power than a CCD. And with the little lens you're not going to gain much, other than shorter battery life, by going CCD anyway.

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HeroPsychoDreamer

Jan 31, 2005, 4:27 PM
We're not talking about actual digital camera's here, we're talking about camera phones. Comparing camera phone quality. And as far as the V710 goes, well, it doesn't have much going for it as far as picture quality for a *camera phone* goes.

Any camera phone has bad quality compared to a standard digital camera.

Therefore, when I imply a camera phone has good quality, that's being compared to other camera phones, not some Nikon 11.whatever megapixel camera. Or even a 3.2 megapixel. I'm keeping things in its league by not comparing things out of their league. Therefore a more appropriate comparison can be made.

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PooFlinger1

Feb 1, 2005, 9:56 AM
As far as the CMOS, where are you getting your info? Nowhere on phonescoop or motorola.com does it specify that the camera will in fact be a CMOS! Will it be? Maybe, but then again, we don't know for sure. You are making biased opinions on information that is not even released yet. I think your getting a bit over worked about the whole thing.
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HeroPsychoDreamer

Feb 1, 2005, 11:26 AM
Where am I getting my info? Personal experience. I've used the E815, and judging by the poor picture quality it must be an CMOS. I'd really prefer not to think that it's a CCD, cause if it is, Moto really doesn't know what they're doing. So by me saying it's a CMOS, I'm just trying to make them look better.

Don't get me wrong though, there are several things I do like about this phone. The EV-DO was a great experience, especially when being connected to my PowerBook G4, using the internet.

I like how you can change the user interface, not just the color scheme, but the overall look of it. Kinda like the Sony Ericsson phones and how they have different themes.

I like the display, very big, crisp, and clear. Colorful too.

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PooFlinger1

Feb 1, 2005, 11:57 AM
Ok, by the facts you just listed I can see now that not just a ranting idiot. Any moron can go on and on about hating a phone, or a company, but they can never seem to give any thumbs up for any features, which I see you are capable of. By the way, where did you get your hands on the phone? I thought planned availablilty isnt until about April. What region of the country do you live in and are they already selling the 815 in your area? I have not yet seen it, nor has my rep given me any info or literature on the phone.
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HeroPsychoDreamer

Feb 1, 2005, 12:08 PM
You are correct, it isn't sceduled to be released for some time still.

I got my hands on it through a family member, which to be honest, I don't know what she does exactly or with what company, but it has to do with cell phones. But every so often she gives me a phone for usually a month or so, asks me to use it, play around with it, so on and so on. And I do, then at the end of the period for however long I have it, I fill out this form stating what I liked about the phone, what I didn't, what could have made my experience with this phone better and basically things of that nature.

I like doing it, it's fun and it's cool to be able to experience different cell phones hands on. It's not limited to new phones either, some that she's ...
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