Samsung SGH-P207

hey ill start a carrier war. Verizon is horrible. Analog cdma crap. Okay, cdma, i know what you're gonna say great coverage, can't tap it, blah blah blah. Guess what, it still sucks. It's only big because of name recognition, and old people. And you know it. Verizon may have ev-do, may FINALLY be coming out with cool phones, but still no where near the possibilities of HSDPA. c'mon 11 mbps, world roaming, seriously Verizon sucks. THey are expensive, you have to wait 2 years to upgrade, you're roaming most everywhere you wouldn't expect to and you have to pay an extra five bucks just for that. if you're in the geriatric ward at the hospital for the technologically impared and those who spend too much on CRAP than go ahead and be hap...
(continues)

Actually Cingular just topped 50 million Customers. 😁

Here's the link qucke: https://www.phonescoop.com/news/item.php?n=11 35

And dear mistermarler, you sound pretty upset? Maybe not too happy with your cellular provider? Is cingular causing your blood pressure to rise every time you get those dropped calls or system busy sigs? I guess the only people who do the work for the unbiased Consumer Reports are "old people" who rank Verizon #1 in EVERY SINGLE CITY they did their research on?? Hmmm. Verzion expensive? Hows that so when every plan they offer is EXACTLY the same in price and minutes as Cingular! With the new AC plan, there is no roaming anywhere on our network (just like cingular) and NO, you dont have to pay $5 more for it. And as far as HSDPA, BIG FRIGGIN DEAL. WHERE IS IT?? EXACTLY....
(continues)

Actually, there is nothing faster then HSDPA until G4 hits and no one knows when that will be. I have had Verizon and I never experienced more dropped calls in the year that I had them then with any other carrier. Verizon has been proven in the NorthEast, but on the west, they suck. I had better coverage in Phoenix with AT&T then Verizon and was lucky to have signal at all outside of the Phoenix metro area, at least with AT&T I could make calls when I was driving out there.

Sorry to hear that. But you must either A: have a bad phone with Verizon that needs either a software upgrade or an upgrade, period. Or B: be one lucky AT&T customer 'cause they were ranked last in the CS reports for Phoenix while Verizon was 1st, just like they were in San Diego, LA, San Franciso and Seattle, all west cities.

As true as it may be that VZW is a big hit out west, out east and in the mid west it is a known fact that VZW is attrocious for service as well as Customer service. Cingular has its problems out west. Having been with every carrier under the sun, I know that every company has its niche, and Cingular's is building up a solid network in the midwest, as well as providing great deals (which VZW mimiced) and ROLLOVER. You can't deny that rollover is a powerful feature, which gives Cingular a distinct edge...if you do, you're retarted.

Tiny, I respect your professional opinion (even though you hurt it just a tad by calling non-cingular supporters "retarded"). BUT, although you may have had bad service with Verizon in the Midwest and East, our coverage is actually greater out there than it is out here in the west. AND, once again, in the most recent testing done by CS, cities like Atlanta Boston Chicago Dallas Denver Detroit Houstan Minneapolis and St. Louis (all of which are in the MW or E) Verizon ranked best. So, TRUE everyones experience with their carrier will differ, but if you look at the big picture we have been on top for a while now. And I really dont want to rant about rollover because thats a different subject, but if its more important to you than the quality o...
(continues)

well, since i can use my phone in more places than my friends who use VZW, i won't be saving as many as you could be if you were with us 🙂

Well I wont argue your personal experience with you and your friend's phones, but I have helped an uncountable amount of people who have come to me with just the opposite situation (they want to switch from Cingular because they were just on vacation with their friends and they're phone didnt work but their friend's Verizon phone did, etc.) So since our personal experiences would count against one another, show me a test/report done that ranks Cingular over Verizon in 17 out of 17 cities and I'll take your word that Cingular is better. (BTW, we're both obviously happy with our service so maybe theres no point to this ranting? Although I do admit it is fun).

(BTW, we're both obviously happy with our service so maybe theres no point to this ranting? Although I do admit it is fun).

I have to agree with VZWSales it is fun to poke each each others competition but the ranting is pointless we are all obviously happy with OUR services so unless we are jsut enjoying ourselves lets cut out the Useless bashing adn just be professional in here.

This is quite simply the most ludicrous discussion I have ever heard. Why do you even persist to atain some level of reliability? VZW Sales, as your name admits your are unconditionally biased. You probably haven't ever even use Cingular, but I'm not so pretentious as you to assume that this is true. Yes, it is possible that at some point you tried Cingular and found it to be unsatisfying and changed to Verizon and had some sort of epiphany which brought you work for Verizon. But none the less the facts speak for themselves as you have been so graciously saying the whole time. First off, Cingular has how many customers, and how many does Verizon have? I have tried a few different carriers and my experience with Cingular has been best ...
(continues)

I work for cingular and I just want 2 say your stupid. It is OK to promote the company u work for just don't lie and repeat stupid competitor information that is not true. I am in retentions for cingular and u have no idea what u are talking about. there is no five dollars more for anything on any cingular plan so what are u talking about u obviously don't know so don't post. EVDO is fast but for what video clips thats all verizon seems to be doing with it. We have mobitv at cingular with 26 differnt channels on ALL EDGE CAPABLE HANDSETS AND A LOT OF THE GPRS CAPABLE HANDSETS. YOU TALK ABOUT DOING RESEARCH U NEED TO DO SOME.

Marcus, you need to learn how to read and speak proper english. I never said there was a $5 charge on Cingular, I responded to another poster who said VERIZON had an extra $5 charge. And so what about your mobitv. Its still on EDGE which doesnt compare to EVDO. Since Verizon just launced EVDO and Vcast obviously we arent gonna have as many options yet, but give it a few more months and wait and see. So stop sounding like a newbie and pretending you know what you're talking about.

What about the article that was on the site recently stating that Development of EVDV has been suspended due to lack of ineterest form carriers......Where is Verizon going to o after EVDO huh? yeah EVDO may be the fastest available at the moment but it doesn't look to good when your developers suspend the actual development of the upgrades does it?

https://www.phonescoop.com/news/item.php?n=1124 »

Even if the upgrades do boost the speed it will still be an older tech. Not to mention since it has been suspended I would be willing to bet that most of the production for any EVDV phones has halted as well.....meanign that even if EVDV does come out the phones will probably be behind the actually release or just plain S&%^.....nuff said

Just to let u know I do know how to speak proper English. And I am not a newbie u just are stupid and using bad competitive information with no basis in reality. Verizon is a good carrier that has been an industry leader for a long time. The new Cingular is a force also giving Verizon all the competition they can handle. Cingular has more network capacity than any other carrier right now. the system busies you are talking about are in your imagination.

"Bad competitive information"?? Im sorry but I dont make up the consumer reports results, they're fact. True, CS isnt the only way to find statistics on industries like our cellular phone industry, but it is a good one. And until you can find me another report that says Cingular tops Verizon in all aspects, your arguments mean nothing. Cingular might be tough competition, but Verizon has plenty of assets to stay ahead of them in every aspect, just as they are now.

keep telling yourself that Verizin is still number one. Cingular will continue to offer more products and services than Verizon. And will look a lot better to new customers signing up for service. Cingular has more phones more digital coverage than any other carrier that is a fact.

I have a question about verizon's AC plan. If you leave verizon's network do you get roaming charges in some areas. Or is it like Cingular which is no roaming no matter what network your on as long as your in the US.

before you shoot yourself in the foot, cingular does not have towers overseas, and they do in fact have to "borrow technology" to get overseas.

Cingular doesn't 'borrow technology', they are already GSM, like the towers are overseas. They have roaming agreements with the overseas carriers so that the current Cingular GSM cust can use there GSM phones on the GSM towers overseas. 😎

thats what i meant...it was a long day...lol

TinyJ316 said:
thats what i meant...it was a long day...lol

😁 Well we all have our days 😁

Here you go Jex, you're just extending the ranting!...Who are you to claim EVDO will fail miserably? If you can read the future then you should stop wasting your time on these boards and go rip some people off. EVDO has been very popular with our customers and by the time Cinguar unvails their new faster technology we'll aready have millions on our EVDO plans/contracts. Second, the second rollout of our PTT is a HUGE difference compared to our first. The first sucked and we all know this. But our new PTT is a HUGE improvement and has a lag time of 1 second. Sprint beats that? By what, .0001 seconds? Come on. And last, the consumer reports were done before the merger, but how do 2 companies who constantly were on the bottom of the ranks sudde...
(continues)

Verizon and Cingular may have fast technologies at their disposal, now and in the future...but what about the future #3 carrier, Sprint-Nextel? They may have plans of their own to bump their way to the top.

After all, consumers decide. After converting Nextel towers to Sprint's future EV-DO technology, and also with the buyout of AT&T Wireless's old TDMA network...who will have the best "home" network then?

🙄 You guys are such dorks! 🤣

As a current verizon customer, I can tell you from personal experience that their customer service sucks. But so do all the other carriers. Some of the people in verizon stores are complete idiots too.

Also, It has been proven that Consumer Reports gets paid off by companies to rank them higher and/or make them the "best" out of their competition, so don't believe every word that they write.

actually those TDMA towers would be shut down and used for making GSM towers eventually since Cingular own AT&T's old TDMA network. And if anything they would be given to Altel or Suncom, which are the companies taking over the customer that weren't given in the merge. I mean honestly, what would a CDMA carrier do with an old TDMA network,

Hold up VZW Sales. Weren't you just the one telling people if they could read the future that they should stop wasting their time and go rip some people off? Well, I'm not the smartest person, but I think that puts your honesty and reliability into question. Sounds like for you its whatever it takes to get you to the top. And what's this all about if you don't want others reading the future...

"by the time Cinguar unvails their new faster technology we'll aready have millions on our EVDO plans/contracts"

Sounds like you know quite a bit about the future too.