Motorola V265 / V266 / V276
high SAR??
Hi,
Is it reason for concern that the SAR on the V265 (1.55 ear, 1.48 body) is higher than other Motorola phones and actually near FCC limits?
Also, it's clear competition- the LG VX-6100 has much lower SAR's (.96 ear, .60 body).
Thanks for any help on this.
Is it reason for concern that the SAR on the V265 (1.55 ear, 1.48 body) is higher than other Motorola phones and actually near FCC limits?
Also, it's clear competition- the LG VX-6100 has much lower SAR's (.96 ear, .60 body).
Thanks for any help on this.
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The FCC limit may be 1.60 at the ear, but this phone is very close to the limit. The LG 6100 has the lowest SAR -- about .96. I wish I knew if it was a statistically significant difference
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It seems that the sound quality with the v256 is much better than the 6100, but the SAR level is much better with the 6100. I'm trying to make a wise decision for my family. Any thoughts?
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sarakandel said:
It seems that the sound quality with the v256 is much better than the 6100, but the SAR level is much better with the 6100. I'm trying to make a wise decision for my family. Any thoughts?
I understand your concern but I think its safe. I noticed the SAR number right away because my v60 has a really low SAR, perhaps because of the metal housing.
The FCC has a limit -- does this mean a phone that is 1.61 is completely unsafe? I don't think so, but since it does not meet the guidelines, it cannot be approved.
I would use the link on Verizon's site for getting more info on the SAR ratings.
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the SAR level 1.45 (V265) to .96 (6100) does feel like a big difference unless I use an earpiece all the time, but I have a feeling the kids won't. thanks for taking the time to answer, i appreciate it.
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sarakandel said:It seems that the sound quality with the v256 is much better than the 6100thoughts?
Don't believe everything you read. I tested them back-to-back at a VZW store and the 6100 was clearly superior on call quality, clarity and volume on both ends of the call. Yes, its a best case situation. But, if a phone can't cut it in the best of situations it is suspect in my opinion. Just my .02.
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kenstee said:sarakandel said:It seems that the sound quality with the v256 is much better than the 6100thoughts?
Don't believe everything you read. I tested them back-to-back at a VZW store and the 6100 was clearly superior on call quality, clarity and volume on both ends of the call. Yes, its a best case situation. But, if a phone can't cut it in the best of situations it is suspect in my opinion. Just my .02.
I have to confirm what kenstee is saying, well, the v265 half of it, anyway; a friend of mine very recently went comparison phone-shopping (she's switching from ATTW to VZW), and as *I* was the one she was calling from the store on various phones, I can tell you tha...
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When was the last time someone died or was hospitalized from a phone w/ too high a SAR rating? There is radiation in everything, however limited. There are much more important things to worry about...like lack of date on the front lcd!!
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I studied this issue myself in comparing the LG VX6100 versus the V265.
In the "info" section of each phone on phonescoop.com, there is an FCC ID link. Click on that and you can see the original FCC application for each phone. In there will be the SAR test reports.
Most vendors SAR ratings are for the maximum output of the phone. In general, with a decent signal and CDMA/PCS (versus analog, which needs higher output power), the actual SAR will be less.
According to the FCC applications, the LG 6100 has about 0.6 maximum SAR on PCS; the Motorola V265 has about 0.7 maximum SAR on PCS (w/ antenna extended). These are for the "cheek touch" position.
If you use the "tilt position" (phone slightly away from your cheek), the SAR valu...
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In the "info" section of each phone on phonescoop.com, there is an FCC ID link. Click on that and you can see the original FCC application for each phone. In there will be the SAR test reports.
Most vendors SAR ratings are for the maximum output of the phone. In general, with a decent signal and CDMA/PCS (versus analog, which needs higher output power), the actual SAR will be less.
According to the FCC applications, the LG 6100 has about 0.6 maximum SAR on PCS; the Motorola V265 has about 0.7 maximum SAR on PCS (w/ antenna extended). These are for the "cheek touch" position.
If you use the "tilt position" (phone slightly away from your cheek), the SAR valu...
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I am confused as well.. Looking at the FCC website, the numbers are not that high as stated by VZW. Here are the numbers from FCC:
22 824.04 - 848.97
22 824.04 - 848.97
22H 824.7 - 848.31
24E 1851.25 - 1908.75
Output is ERP for Part 22 and EIRP for Part 24. SAR compliance for body-worn operating configurations is limited to the specific configuration(s) tested in this filing. End-users must be informed of the body-worn operating requirements for satisfying RF exposure compliance. The highest reported SAR values are: Part 22 – Head: 1.37 W/kg; Body-worn: 0.35 W/kg, Part 24 – Head: 1.33 W/kg; Body-worn: 0.65 W/kg
22 824.04 - 848.97
22 824.04 - 848.97
22H 824.7 - 848.31
24E 1851.25 - 1908.75
Output is ERP for Part 22 and EIRP for Part 24. SAR compliance for body-worn operating configurations is limited to the specific configuration(s) tested in this filing. End-users must be informed of the body-worn operating requirements for satisfying RF exposure compliance. The highest reported SAR values are: Part 22 – Head: 1.37 W/kg; Body-worn: 0.35 W/kg, Part 24 – Head: 1.33 W/kg; Body-worn: 0.65 W/kg
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Goose,
I live in the NY metro area, too. Are you saying that when the phone is in digital mode both the VX6100 and the V265 emit almost the same SAR level? .....And when you pick up an analog signal the SAR level could max out on the V265 at 1.55, while the VX6100 is considerably less?
Would there be a difference in SAR if the phone is just on standby? (ex. the hone is on, but in your pocket)
I live in the NY metro area, too. Are you saying that when the phone is in digital mode both the VX6100 and the V265 emit almost the same SAR level? .....And when you pick up an analog signal the SAR level could max out on the V265 at 1.55, while the VX6100 is considerably less?
Would there be a difference in SAR if the phone is just on standby? (ex. the hone is on, but in your pocket)
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In digital mode, the SAR for the V265 is slightly higher than the VX6100 (assuming that the V265's antenna is extended). If the V265's antenna is not extended, then its SAR is significantly higher than the VX6100. So I always extend the antenna when using the V265.
The V265's max SAR in analog is 1.55 according to Verizon and Motorola; 1.37 according to the FCC report. The VX6100's max SAR in analog is 0.96 according to Verizon and LG; same according to the FCC report. Maybe the 1.55 is a typo?
Unlike GSM phones, CDMA phones don't transmit significant power when you are just listening to the the other person on the phone, or on standby. When you actually talk on the phone is when the CDMA phone will transmit significant power, a...
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The V265's max SAR in analog is 1.55 according to Verizon and Motorola; 1.37 according to the FCC report. The VX6100's max SAR in analog is 0.96 according to Verizon and LG; same according to the FCC report. Maybe the 1.55 is a typo?
Unlike GSM phones, CDMA phones don't transmit significant power when you are just listening to the the other person on the phone, or on standby. When you actually talk on the phone is when the CDMA phone will transmit significant power, a...
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Are you kidding me, you must be one of those parents who won't let their kids use or walk in the line of a microwave. Come on now, let your hair down and live a little.
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but it's within FCC limits w/c means it's still considered safe. It's clear competition-LG6100 has very low SAR but at the same time, has pretty bad signal strength and can't hold on to a signal as well as the v265. i would take the v265 anyday over the LG6100...
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