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V3 or Smartphone? Help!

lilnyc

Nov 19, 2004, 12:48 AM
😕 I haven't had a cellphone since the late 90's, so every phone is cool to me. That said, I have the Audiovox SMT 5600 Smartphone and love the user interface/functions, but have anticipated the Razr.

Problem? I have gotten accustomed to the Windows Mobile interface and have heard that the V3 falls short by comparison. But the V3 is a quad band with a great speakerphone. I am so torn.

What will I lose by passing on a smartphone in favor of a V3, which one salesperson called "a regular phone in an attractive shell?" What would you do? I'm leaning toward waiting for the next generation of the Razr...even if that's a long time from now ☚ī¸

Any feedback is appreciated.
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cgydave

Nov 19, 2004, 2:14 AM
whats up. well, you have a lot of ability with the smartphone that you have. The lowdown with the v3 is the attractiveness. That was the main goal. One person on here got it right, the point with the v3 series was to give the public a phone that they were able to use for more than a year or 2. It has all the same features as the v600, but they fixed all the bugs that they had in it. They enlarged the screen and added more pixels to the screen. They added the new intergrated screen on the exterior of the phone to make picture taking and phone identification ease. The phone is very slender. About half an inch thick and about the size of a credit card. About half and inch longer than a cc. But trying to compare a regular cell phone i...
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mobilephonejunkie8

Nov 19, 2004, 2:40 AM
My $.02...

I totally agree with cgydave on this one. I have had two V3's (sold the first Asian version and kept the American/Cingular Version).

I also have been through literally 5 of the new Moto smartphone MPX220. This phone is very similar to the audiovox except it's buggy. They went through a recall due to volume and supposedly fixed the phone but did not. I had a sound engineer friend hook my phone up to some of his equipment to test REAL audio output and there was literally NO difference in the original phone and the supposedly upgraded phone.

Anyway, off track. The V3 is an awesome phone with SOME cool features. If you are a heavy phone user you should really enjoy it. If you are more heavily dependent on the PDA funct...
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lilnyc

Nov 19, 2004, 9:31 AM
cgydave and mobilephonejunkie8,

Thank you both for your feedback. Sometimes the in-store salespeople do not have that much time to go over this or are not as knowledgable as some people online who actually own the phone. I really appreciate ya 😁
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White_Skinned

Nov 19, 2004, 11:11 AM
lilnyc said:
cgydave and mobilephonejunkie8,

Thank you both for your feedback. Sometimes the in-store salespeople do not have that much time to go over this or are not as knowledgable as some people online who actually own the phone. I really appreciate ya 😁



hey lilnyc
i dont have the razr and wont get it.. but what i wanted to say was keep this in mind if u have the audiovox 5600 your with at&tw and u state u will just want for the razr 2 if u will to kome out the one they talk about having the windows os in it.. keep one litrle thing in mind.. u can only wait up untill your at&tw contract is up then u cant wait anymore.. so i hope it comes out before then for u..

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lilnyc

Nov 19, 2004, 11:29 AM
Hi White Skinned,

Yes, I have about 6 days left under my 30-day AT&T warranty and the Razr is sold out all over NYC. That's why I am in a panic to get my hand on one so that I do not end up running out of time and paying full price for the Audiovox without giving the Razr a test drive. I'm in my own version of the movie "Speed," LOL!

I am also more confused because at an AT&T, now Cingual store, the employees told me that to get a Razr I'd have to switch to Cingular service on a new contract (since I got an AT&T phone through AT&T pre-full merger). I am calling customer service now because I don't understand.

If worse comes to worse, I'll just do without the Razr for now, envy those who have it *sigh* and see what happens with n...
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lilnyc

Nov 19, 2004, 4:01 PM
The descision's been made for me.

Cingular said that I can migrate from AT&T to Cingular (which is what I'd have to do to get a Razr), but I cannot migrate back to AT&T. This is fine service-wise, but if I give up my AT&T phone, I cannot get it back b/c Cingular doesn't offer this particular phone.

It looks like I'll be holding on to the smartphone and waiting for the Razr's next version, whenever that happens. In the meantime, I'll continue to envy you Razr-heads 😎
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SailorSaturn

Nov 19, 2004, 9:05 PM
Talked to a few co-workers of mine to confirmed with this. Turns out that if you're a current AWS user & want the RAZR V3, you do need to migrate to Cingular's billing system & their equivalent GSM rate plan. Plus the RAZR phones that are sold are locked to only Cingular SIM chips. The current AWS SIM chip are only good with existing AWS phone models only (which are being slowly depleted and can be ordered only via 611 to customer care).

Since Cingular attained AWS, they're not going to carry any phones in retail stores that AWS SIM compatiable. As well, they have no intention to get AWS SIM compatiable RAZRs. Therefore if you do end up getting a RAZR V3, you receive a new SIM chip and will need to take the time to reprogram all the numbe...
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lapwolf

Nov 19, 2004, 9:20 PM
So far, all Cingular Quad Band Phones are unlocked, including my V3...
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sdgeiger

Nov 19, 2004, 10:02 PM
SailorSaturn said:
Talked to a few co-workers of mine to confirmed with this. Turns out that if you're a current AWS user & want the RAZR V3, you do need to migrate to Cingular's billing system & their equivalent GSM rate plan.

Plus the RAZR phones that are sold are locked to only Cingular SIM chips. The current AWS SIM chip are only good with existing AWS phone models only (which are being slowly depleted and can be ordered only via 611 to customer care).


This is not true. I have a Cingular branded RAZR V3 and I am using it with my AWS SIM and it works fine. Currently, Cingular Phones are SIM UNLOCKED, but this might change in the future.
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cgydave

Nov 20, 2004, 3:29 AM
alrite. just a little clarification that has been coming up constantly on this website. The razr is unlocked. The purpose of this is so that it could be used internationally. The rest of the world all uses gsm. US is the only nation that still uses CDMA and TDMA. The phone is unlocked for that purpose. It doesnt matter what sim card you have, all sim cards are the same.

also, someone said that cingular was going to take this feature away from their line of phones. that is false. The purpose to do it is to allow their consumers to take their phone whereever they want. That is why cingular has changed their entire system across the nation to gsm and to eliminate all the gait phones. The unlocked phones will still be coming out...
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sdgeiger

Nov 20, 2004, 7:42 AM
How do you know this for sure? If Cingular has recently made international roaming agreements with other carriers, then they would want to prevent their customers from purchasing the very inexpensive pre-paid SIM cards in the country of travel.

Currently, ALL Cingular GSM phones are unlocked as far as I can tell, from testing this on a few different Cingular phone models, but this could still change.

By the way, Cingular still maintains a TDMA network in the U.S. A friend of mine still has his old TDMA phone and with Cingular.
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dura ace

Nov 21, 2004, 11:16 AM
I am an American and I work overseas, Europe, Africa, Middle East. I just returned from Dubai last night and the V3 is so hot there that i only found it in 2 out the 15 places I checked. The only problem they are having with it is that is is not available with Arabic font (yet). The price in Dubai is 2600 Dirhams whis = 700 USD. My V600 works fine where ever i go with Cingular OR international carrier sim.
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wHiTeSoL

Nov 21, 2004, 1:20 AM
yea i dont know where you got your information from but all the phones shipped to stores from now on WILL BE LOCKED. no exceptions. cingular made all these roaming agreements with worldwide companys that they rather you use cingular while overseas. They are not going to allow you to use prepaid sims if they can help it.
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sdgeiger

Nov 21, 2004, 5:38 AM
wHiTeSoL said:
They are not going to allow you to use prepaid sims if they can help it.


The only way they can help it is if they lock your phone.
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wHiTeSoL

Nov 22, 2004, 2:02 AM
duh that's why i said that all cingular phones from here on out will be locked to cingular
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sdgeiger

Nov 22, 2004, 9:57 AM
But that's not true. Three co-workers of mine just received new phones shipped from Cingular and the phones are UNLOCKED. Maybe that will happen eventually, but the shipments out of the factory right now are UNLOCKED and there are only rumors to the fact that they will be locked.
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wHiTeSoL

Nov 23, 2004, 12:52 AM
well when the current wearhouses exhaust thier current supplys then you will see the locked cingular world phones.
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