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Airplane vs. MP3

dirktanner

Jan 24, 2005, 8:03 PM
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Hello All,

One reason I bought the 6230 is the MP3 player. One place I like to listen to MP3s is on an airplane. However, having a cell phone on during a plane trip is not allowed. Is there a way for my to safely disable the phone reception so that I can use it in-flight?

Good question, yes?
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debauchari

Jan 24, 2005, 8:15 PM
There shud be an Airplane/flight mode in every cellphone - which would disable the radio. But I prefer to switch the fone off anyway as not many flight attendants can understand the concept. and by law you are supposed to follow ALL crew member instructions however stupid they may be.
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tarascobar

Jan 27, 2005, 8:08 PM
only one with that function built in is the treo 650 as i recall
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Phoneking13

Feb 14, 2005, 2:58 PM
The Blackberries can so the same as well.

However I think you can set call-forwarding on to avoid the phone ringing.

Terry C.
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pranu

Mar 7, 2005, 3:02 PM
Terry:

Turning the phone off is a way around the regulation. The rule asks you to turn it off so that there is no communication between the phone and the network.

By not having it ring - you arent stopping communication. For instance you could still receive messages (SMS) from the network.

So as per the regulation - that is still unsafe.

Now whether they really need to stop communication or not is a completely different argument all together Very Happy
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jrussell789

Aug 18, 2005, 8:23 AM
Who turns their cell phone completely off on a flight? Do you ever see anyone racing for their cell phone to do this? If you are not making a call, then it is safe enough.

One of the airlines are now considering allowing cell phone use on their flights. Turn off your ringer and use your MP3 function for heaven sake.
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memetics

Aug 29, 2005, 12:46 PM
jrussell - you are advising someone to break the law... are you doing so for political reasons, or are you just hoping they'll get arrested?
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nosoupforyou

Dec 8, 2005, 1:09 AM
I hope we're never together on the same flight. I'll let the professionals be the judge of whether it is safe to have an active cell phone in the air.
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mikepaul

Dec 9, 2005, 8:49 AM
Actually, they seem to be referencing 'better safe than sorry' rather than 'gee, when Dave turned on that cellphone the plane took a dive'...
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nosoupforyou

Dec 9, 2005, 1:08 PM
Maybe, but I don't make the rules or claim to be an expert in telecommunications. I'll leave that to the professionals.
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mikepaul

Mar 1, 2006, 10:51 AM
And the professionals have responded, in ways that guarantee that the status-quo will probably be maintained, just in case...

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06060/662669.stm »
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vpu2

Mar 25, 2005, 2:02 AM
The MPX-200/220 I believe has "Flight Mode" which shuts off the phone.
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Mrcram

Mar 24, 2005, 8:47 AM
You could try removing the sim card......The Mp3 player should still work......You may have a tough time convincing the flight attendant the phone part doesn't work tho.....hehe Wink
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vpu2

Mar 25, 2005, 2:08 AM
I don't believe ANY phone works above about 2K - 3K ft. Most of the antennas aren't recievable above that altitude, so phone communication may be a mute point. Try it yourself, put the phone in a bag you can monitor, place it on silent, and then monitor to see when you lose signal...... for sure above about 10k feet you're not picking up NADA!!!!!
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RX240

Apr 16, 2005, 10:32 PM
I was under the impression that the cell radios would interfere with the plane/tower communication, which would mainly be affected in the 0 - 3k ft range, hence why you can't use a CD player or GameBoy until they hit "cruising altitude." Now, keep in mind that the cell phone rules came out around the time of Analog, which was terrible for giving off interference, so I suspect that the FCC is just lazy in doing more research on the subject.
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RX240

Apr 16, 2005, 10:34 PM
I would be interested to see if there are any applications out there to enable MP3 enabled phones to go into "airplane mode" I actually had a RIM mobitex pager that could do such a thing. But the point has also been made that you have to do what the flight crew tells you to do so it might not make a difference.
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chitownbmx

May 13, 2005, 1:14 PM
I have a dead sim card that I got from my store. The phone recognizes it as a unregistered sim, but all of the phones other features still work. When you land, pop your active sim card in, and your ready to use your phone again.
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sdnyc

Aug 23, 2005, 12:56 AM
it will still allow emergency calls and therefore is effectively on.
the thing is that if you are not initiating a call, your phone is not an active radio device, it is "listening” and not emitting any radio waves, so it's theoretically and for all practical purposes “OK” to have it on the plane, just don't try to dial and call anyone, and hopeful nobody will be able to reach you 30K ft high.
Not that the flight attendants allow you to do it, but you don’t have to flash it. Just have you headphones on and tuck the phone away. You conscious can be clear - you will not be cause any interference, because, as I said you device inactive, passive coil waiting for a signal (strong, directed magnetic field) from the cell tower to create (...
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memetics

Aug 29, 2005, 12:48 PM
Phones still send out brief signals - a sort of "ping" response - if I'm not mistaken. What are you basing your claims on, sdnyc?
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sdnyc

Aug 29, 2005, 3:33 PM
Yes, you are right as far as GSM. I have done my research.

GENERALLY, with all technologies, except iDEN (Nextel), the phone, when it’s switched on, first registers with the closest/most available tower. Then it is passive until it’s called. The system knows what tower you are registered with and sends the first request for connection to that tower. If the phone is not answering they have the different algorithms to ask the towers around and so forth - to start emitting the request for connection with the phone. Sometimes the algorithms is set up not to go further then the region. It used to be (a few years ago) with CDMA (Verizon) that if you had your phone ON all throughout the flight and tried to call as soon as you landed, the sig...
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cellulardave

Oct 27, 2005, 9:57 AM
The new Motorola ROKR has an airplane mode, fyi.
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