Samsung Galaxy S 4 (GSM)
No AWS HSPA?
But yeah, AWS HSPA is pretty much going away.
michael_herc said:
Tofuchong is right. T-Mobile is rapidly turning AWS UMTS off and switching over their UMTS network to PCS. AWS is going to be exclusively used by LTE only.
No, that is wrong. T-Mobile cannot just turn off AWS W-CDMA and move it over to PCS because T-Mobile still has millions of devices on the network that do not support PCS W-CDMA.
So, T-Mobile has acquired some new AWS spectrum for LTE and will refarm some of its existing AWS spectrum from W-CDMA to LTE. But T-Mobile will have to keep at least a single AWS W-CDMA carrier running in all existing markets for the next several years.
AJ
Tofuchong said:
Based on the AWS auctions, there are 5mhz and 10mhz channels available.
Well, yes, sort of. Those are actually AWS licenses or blocks, and they do come in 5 MHz x 5 MHz and 10 MHz x 10 MHz bandwidths, otherwise known as 5 MHz FDD and 10 MHz FDD, respectively.
Tofuchong said:
Based on T-Mobile's current spectrum holdings on the FCC website, they have only 5Mhz AWS channels in use in most areas they have 3G/4G connectivity. The Majority uses only one single 5mhz channel.
No, that is wrong. In most major markets, T-Mobile is running DC-HSPA+ 42, which requires 10 MHz FDD (or two adjacent 5 MHz FDD blocks).
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Also, is anywhere in Ct considered among the top 100 markets?
Tofuchong said:
Well, they have and will stop selling device that use AWS HSPA exclusively, which is the main reason they stopped selling the HTC One S.
Nope. The T-Mobile variant HTC One S does also support PCS W-CDMA. Even the Amaze does, too.
AJ
I'm really, really curious about speedtests on Tmo's LTE network! Exciting times right now.
I really don't think there will be a spectrum crunch in 2015 like the FCC or whoever predicted.
so long as end users can get no less than 2-5mbps, then there's no spectrum crunch as far as I'm concerned. And on Verizon's nearly 2.5y/o LTE network I still get well above 2-5mbps in most places, even 30+mbps. So really,... what's gonna change in the next 24-30mo's in users habits that there will be a spectrum crunch.
Both ATT & Vzn have something like 20mhz chunks of 700mhz LTE in most places.
And once Tmo co...
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Exciting times we live in!
I'm holding out on upgrading until smartphones with Qualcomm's Snapdragon 800 processor reach the market, sometime in the 2nd half of the year.
Jayshmay said:
And once Tmo combines it's spectrum with MetroPCS they'll have lots, and lots of spectrum in most places.
Most places? No. The T-Mobile-MetroPCS combination affects relatively few markets. NYC, Boston, Philadelphia, Atlanta, Florida, Detroit, DFW, Las Vegas, LA, and the Bay Area.
Outside of those areas, MetroPCS does not operate and does not hold spectrum. So, in most places, the amount of combined spectrum will be what T-Mobile alone brings to the table.
AJ
AWS HSPA will be around along with PCS HSPA and AWS LTE for a long time.
Thats what the question was about, the device, not the network.
Tofuchong said:
Not about the Network. The network is not going anywhere, but DEVICES specifically with AWS-WCDMA support will be few and far between moving forward. I'm talking about devices that support AWS-WCDMA, and NOT 1900Mhz WCDMA (UMTS).
Your statements above are not entirely clear. Let me try to clarify.
Going forward, all new T-Mobile devices will include PCS W-CDMA capability. They will also continue to include AWS W-CDMA capability.
AJ
OlemanGSM said:
Nice conversation, but as for penetration qualities 1700mhz does a better job than 1900 and thats why is makes more sense for tmobile to release LTE on it first...
Not quite. The "1700 MHz" convention is something that Phone Scoop and other outlets have used to refer to AWS, and it is problematic for the many who do not know wireless spectrum very well.
The proper nomenclature should be AWS 2100+1700 MHz because the downlink is in the 2100 MHz range, the uplink in the 1700 MHz range.
So, AWS 2100+1700 MHz is a mixed bag. Yes, compared to PCS 1900 MHz, the AWS 1700 MHz uplink has a slight propagation advantage, but the AWS 2100 MHz downlink is at a slight propagation disadvantage. A...
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We just have one S4 page for now, but we will update it and possibly add pages for other variants as Samsung and the carriers detail the differences in the US versions.
I ask because my Droid Charge"s radio switches between 3G & LTE quite a bit, so I'm wondering if newer smartphones have better radios that hold LTE better?. . .
T899 (probably) will have AWS HSPA+LTE for sure.
Don't you notice there's NO CDMA band at all?