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Do we need it?

WrongWayRob

Nov 3, 2003, 1:49 AM
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I'd like to hear your thought's, does sprint need push to talk service? I'd rather them focus on producing Bluetooth phones and just give us more talk time for our money.
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eazymoneygs

Nov 3, 2003, 8:49 AM
👿 you are totally rite the ptt option is no needed ! untill the ptt option is universial the only ptt network i would join would be nextel but nextel screwd me big time ! i need a phone company that is about more min. ! stop spending ur money on making stupid things like a hole new set of 2-way towers and save that money so i dont have to give u as much ! besides i here that there is a 30 sec. delay on all the sprint ptts anyway is this true ?
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0siris

Nov 3, 2003, 1:00 PM
For whatever it's worth, no new towers are needed for PTT. It'll be IP-based, and thus run like a data application.
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cdemot02

Nov 3, 2003, 3:27 PM
It is huge for the company. Once all the initial technical issues are worked out it will provide a huge market share. Nextel does not have cell phone coverage that is worth anything, they rely on PTT. If companies such as Sprint and Verizon come in with PTT, and provide cell phone coverage that is good they will eventually cause Nextel to lose its market share.
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cdemot02

Nov 3, 2003, 3:27 PM
It is huge for the company. Once all the initial technical issues are worked out it will provide a huge market share. Nextel does not have cell phone coverage that is worth anything, they rely on PTT. If companies such as Sprint and Verizon come in with PTT, and provide cell phone coverage that is good they will eventually cause Nextel to lose its market share.
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Big Poppa

Nov 3, 2003, 7:43 PM
The PTT option IS needed.. mabey not by you. but Sprint has a LARGE business customer base, and most of these business have been sitting on their hand waiting for a PTT version from Sprint PCS...

Bluetooth is fine and dandy, I want it too, but choice is not Sprint's.. right now only a small number of manufacture are putting bluetooth in thier phones. Sony Ericsson was the biggest maker of bluetooth handset, but since thier announcment of them leaveing the US CDMA market, carriers are scrambling tring to get other manufacturers to add bluetooth to thier devices..

Now one thing you may want to think about is this.. even when Sprint PCS offeres Bluetooth headsets, what makes you think they you will be able to use the phone as a modem for...
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jdmountford

Nov 5, 2003, 11:45 AM
As far as Bluetooth CDMA phones. The problem was two-fold. Problem part one, is that the primary manufactures of Bluetooth Phones (nokia and SE) suck at CDMA phones!! The second part is that Verizon and Sprint PCS realized that BT was mainly a cordless technology. That is when the problems started, because there is almost no way to stop a BT connection from being made between devices with out keeping the whole thing from working. And obviously Sprint PCS has the best rates on Highspeed. They do not want the BT happening. Notice that SE only pulled CDMA phones from the American Market!! Sprint PCS and Verizon are complete sticklers when it comes to approving phones. I guess it is a good thing for customers, but I think it sucks most o...
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Big Poppa

Nov 5, 2003, 12:01 PM
Well I know for a fact Sprint PCS is coming out with the Sony ericsson T608 with Bluetooth.. I have been told repeatedly by E-care, and customer service it WILL be coming out very soon... so I'll just wait and see.
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biggamike

Nov 3, 2003, 11:04 PM
No, there is no truth about a 30 sec delay with sprint ptt service. The initial transmission takes AT MOST 3-5 sec to find the other party. After that the two-way is instantaneous
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prpapi81

Nov 4, 2003, 2:06 AM
I sell; cellular at a major electronics store. Some of the Sprint management that comes in to lay down the latest or visit the in-store reps have testing demos of PTT phones. They are using it already to minimize kinks in the network when it launches. Right now they are using Sanyo 7200's right now, which have not been released to the public. PTT is by far more in demand than any bluetooth capable handset. Verizon is working it's PTT network slowly and with limited phones. Sprint on the other hand will launch it on it's entire network nationwide at one time. It's easier for sprint because they have all 1900mhz CDMA pcs band, and not like verizon where most of there coverage is based on there CDMA 800mhz network which is very limited. This me...
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gibbor5150

Nov 13, 2003, 3:08 PM
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I don't think that working at a kiosk at wal-mart makes you a professional on cellular accessories. anyway if you don't think bluetooth has much then go to www.bluetooth.com, or search for bluetooth on amazon. you'll see different.
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prpapi81

Nov 13, 2003, 3:53 PM
First of all I don't work at Wal-Mart. I have Master of Science degree with a major in Telecommunications, I am going to school this Jan. for my MBA/TM and I am certified by CEA (Consumer Electronics Association) to have full knowledge of wireless fundamentals and to efficiently sell wireless devices/products. You as individual insult me. I didn’t come this far for someone on a Forum post to insult me to make him or her feel better about themselves, this is a place where people can come to have discussions about things that interest them or will help them benefit in this field of technology. People have a right to there own opinions and comments. First of all I didn't say that Blue tooth is nothing or is bad. All I said was, with a cell phon...
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gibbor5150

Nov 13, 2003, 5:17 PM
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Can You Hear Me Now.

Ok Mr. Master of Science degree with a major in Telecommunications, nothing you have told is anything i can't find on carriers or manufacturers website. i'm not impressed by your so called ifinite wisdom. Let me quote a wise man "a man with an argument, is never at the mercy of a man with experience." so here is my experience: 20 to 30 sales a day of bluetooth products.

Good!!!!!
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Mygel624

Nov 13, 2003, 10:57 PM
Gibbor, please don't take anything personally, but prpapi does have a valid argument. At this point Nov. 2003, the overall public demand for PTT is much higher than Bluetooth. That being said, I personally am an avid advocate for bluetooth technology. I have an hp 2210 and could not be happier with it's performance. Both my home and office internet's connection is through cable modem and "Bluetooth Friendly". My office has Microsoft's Bluetooth Keyboard and adapter which, knock on wood, has worked flawlessly. The question remain, Do we need it? Well when cell phones were first released and airtime was $8.00 a minute, did we need it? Most of the public at that time thought it was a waste, an elitist perk, compounded with limited avail...
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Mygel624

Nov 4, 2003, 4:49 PM
Bluetooth is used by a good 1% of the population. Most Bluetooth devices have a range of 50ft., the speed is average @ best, and with my hp 5455 PDA I have had nothing but problems using that feature. PTT is practical, convinient, and user friendly. Furthermore, Sprint will release ReadyLink (their brand of PTT), with 4 phones and a maximum lag time of 2 seconds (Verizon is consistently averaging 5 seconds, limited coverage area a 1 phone). Keep in mind, Wireless providers rather offer expanded services, than cut revenue by slashing rates.
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VZW Sales

Nov 4, 2003, 5:28 PM
Why doesnt Sprint spend their money building up their network instead of on all these new gadget phones?? How do they expect to sell a new service when their current network sucks. And BTW, you guys that say Verizon's PTT coverage is limited, their 1x network is still many times larger than Sprints, and will only continue to get bigger as they are convert their current towers to 1x. I've been saying this all along and I'll say it again; Verizon's service combined with Sprints phones would make one hell of a company!
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jdmountford

Nov 5, 2003, 11:52 AM
Verizon Reps are brainwashed. I say this and I have a sis who works for Verizon Wireless as a sales Rep. I think Verizon picks the people who will believe anything.

And if you knew more about wireless I would assume you know that the Carriers do not have anything to do with the handset manufacturers phones.

They may request certain features and obviosly they pay for the phones once they are done in order to sell them to the customers but they do not pay for specific phones to be made.

Now I am sure there is palm greesing somewhere but not to the effect you are trying to get at.

Verizon is only so big due to how many companies partnered up to form it. Sprint PCS has built it's entire network they did not have the bennefit of ...
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Big Poppa

Nov 5, 2003, 12:16 PM
I am AVZW Employee.. I am not brainwashed.. so put that crap to rest... It a simple thing called "Employee Loyalty".. I enjoy working for Verizon Wireless, But I use a Sprint PCS phone.. Verizon does have a larger 1x coverage area than Sprint does now, but yet I like How My phone works the same ANYWHERE on the Sprint Network. That is the one Biggest advantage Sprint has over Verizon. Also there advantage is that when when Sprint Launches something is is automatically nationwide, not a little here, a little there. But don't get me wrong, I like Verizon Wireless, They give me a paycheck, and I love talking to the customers. And Sprint should be doing some things that vVerizon has been doing to help improve their customer relationship.. Verizon...
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luckie7

Nov 5, 2003, 11:36 PM
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Not trying to start an argument here, BUT. . .

Sprint PCS has a larger digital network than Verizon HANDS DOWN. 1x is not available in Verizon's analog network, only in their digital. . . so HOW can VZW have a larger 1x footprint than PCS?

I'm honestly not trying to start anything, to my knowledge Sprint has had, and still has the largest digital footprint. I m ay be wrong, so if I am clear it up for me.
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prpapi81

Nov 6, 2003, 1:14 AM
Sprint does have the largest 1900mhz network. Verizon's network is 800mhz CDMA and 1900mhz CDMA. Verizon's 800/1900mhz is much larger when combined together. But sprint's ALL 1900mhz network is the largest in the nation. Because it is made up of one network, and not several mixed together.
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luckie7

Nov 6, 2003, 9:08 AM
I know that PCS has a larger 1900mhz network, but is this also true for a 1x network?
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VZW Sales

Nov 6, 2003, 7:03 PM
No Luckie, Verizon's 1x network is still by far much larger than Sprints. If you'ld like you should be able to look at a map of it on Verizon's website; just look at the map for the push to talk for it works on only 1x. We have the maps in the stores as well, and you can see a very large difference between Verizon's 1x coverage and Sprints coverage.
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Winsome

Nov 6, 2003, 7:24 PM
BUT sprint PTT phone also has a speakerphone...and sanyo speakerphones are the bomb. 🤣
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luckie7

Nov 6, 2003, 8:04 PM
I realize the map shows more coverage. But we all know Verizon's map isn't a coverage map, its a billing map. To see a true coverage map, one should look at Sprint PCS, and T-Mobile's. My point in my first post is that due to the fact Sprint has more digital coverage than VZW, it is impossible for VZW to have a larger 1x network, as PCS entire network is 1x.
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Big Poppa

Nov 7, 2003, 11:08 AM
I believe what it trying to say, is that Verizon's 1x coverage covers has more square miles.. Verizon's coverage is more "Blanketed" While Sprint's is more "Spider Web'd"
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luckie7

Nov 7, 2003, 5:39 PM
If you would view an actualy "coverage" map of VZW, you would notice the same 'spider web'. The only thing thats blanketed is the maps they put out.
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VZW Sales

Nov 7, 2003, 7:58 PM
Really Luckie...And where do you get this info. on Verizon's maps? I believe the FCC put strong rules on cellular companies and how they display their coverage on their maps...Either way,Verizon's coverage is still EXTREMLY larger than Sprint's, and since we are converting our still small amount of analog towers to digital, our 1x coverage is continuing to grow..
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Mygel624

Nov 7, 2003, 8:02 PM
People, people, people, settle down. VZW, obviously you are partial to Verizon, and yes, thanks to the fact that Verizon provides minimal coverage in the Dakotas and Montana (and no other carrier cares about those 150 wireless customers in that region) that makes them the largest network in the country, but it's not all digital, Sprint's is. Now does Verizon continously enhance and enlarge their network? Yes, but so does Sprint. Sprint has THE largest ALL DIGITAL network, and no matter how much you may refute that, it's the truth. Verizon is an excellent wireless carrier, bar none, but Sprint is not playing sloppy 2nd to anyone. Now as far as phone quality and selection, no one can argue that Sprint has the best line-up in the country,...
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VZW Sales

Nov 7, 2003, 10:14 PM
Mygel, obviously YOU are PARTIAL to SPRINT...When Sprint's advertising says they have the largest ALL DIGITAL network, that means they dont have any analog areas. But Verizons digital coverage is still by far larger than Sprints total coverage..Id like to know where you are getting your stats, but look at the Verizon website and find a map that shows our "National Enhanced Services" map..That will show our 1x coverage, and it alone is larger than Sprint's total coverage! And about your comment on our coverage in the midwest that makes Verizon the largest carrier, when the last time you used a Sprint phone in L.A.? We have better coverage in the midwest than Sprint does is CALIFORNIA! Sad..
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bucky71

Nov 8, 2003, 12:01 AM
After 11 years working with wireless carriers, I am still amazed how little some people know about the product they sell. I have sold Sprint, Verizon, and Cingular. While I do not work for any of them directly, I seem to be the only un-biased opinion here.

First, none of carriers brainwash their employees, they just simply provide them with the information they want conveyed to the customers. Most accept what they are told and do no thinking or research on their own.

Second, the 1x issue that is being argued is somewhat skewed. Both replies have valid points, but again they are not getting the whole story. Verizon DOES cover more square miles, but Sprint covers more population with it's 1x coverage.

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Big Poppa

Nov 8, 2003, 10:21 AM
Thank you for saying we are not brainwashed.. have worked for Sprint PCS before, and now work for Verizon.. Both are good companies and each one has advantages over the other.. Sprint has the advantage over having thier entier network being 1x. Verizon has the advantage of having overall a larger service area consisting of 1x and non-1x network. Sprint has a better selection of phones, but Verizon has phones that work much better. I have found Verizon Samsung phones don't have reception problems as bad as Sprint PCS Samsung phones. But anyways.. ya'll get the point.
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VZW Sales

Nov 8, 2003, 1:05 PM
Big Poppa: I understand we're on the same side, but the reason Verizon Samsung phones dont have reception problems as bad as Sprint PCS phones (according to you) is because of the service provider. Phones have minimal to no impact on signal strength (although some are known to be more optimistic in displaying their signal strength).
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allies

Nov 8, 2003, 2:13 PM
Well...it was a problem with Samsung handents, because the two most reccent phones (A600 and A620) do not have reception issues previous Samsung phones had.
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bucky71

Nov 8, 2003, 2:25 PM
The phones have a lot to do with the reception. For example, the Samsung A460 that Sprint sells has had aweful RF performance. According to many in the industry, it is due to Samsung skimping on quality circuits to make the model thinner. But in the Midwest, the A500 and older models have performed well. None compete with the Sanyo models though. Sanyo actually has improved the RF performance by spending to improve the RF circuits and it is noticable.
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Perks

Nov 9, 2003, 4:19 PM
Unfortunately allies, I'm gonna have to disagree on the new Samsung models being problem free...I've been using a 620 for a few months now and I have to say, it is the worst phone I have ever owned. Reception sucks and it has many random issues, such as freezing during camera use.
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bucky71

Nov 10, 2003, 2:39 PM
If you want a solid phone buy Sanyo. Sanyo has actually had models that had less than 1/10th of 1% defect rates, which is astounding for wireless.
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Perks

Nov 10, 2003, 6:16 PM
Agreed, I had a Sanyo and never had a problem, really wish I kept that phone. My girlfiend and 2 of my friends have Sanyos with 0 problems. Excellent manufacturer.
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Mygel624

Nov 8, 2003, 4:12 PM
Oh VZW, I obviously can't speak for the West Coast, because I live in CT. Also call this a hunch, but I don't think you've been out to Montana to personally test the VZW network, so your claim that service is better out there than Sprint's L.A. coverage is fully unfounded. I was a Verizon Wireless employee out here, not sales, but customer service. Most of us obviously were subscribers because our monthly bill with all the perks, came out to about $10. Many of us switched to several different providers because when we went outside the call center, we had no reception at all!!! The coverage map said we did, but there we were standing outside like idiots trying to get a single bar of reception, walking all over the parking lot, and I can't...
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VZW Sales

Nov 11, 2003, 8:12 PM
Hey Mygel, I started with Verizon service while i was going to school in Montana's neighbor, North Dakota. Worked very well..Point is, Verizon's service overall is better than anyone else's. Just read the latest consumer reports, which are in no way as you say funded by Verizon..
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gibbor5150

Nov 13, 2003, 6:23 PM
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you are full of crap, no one "loves". talking to customers.
sounds like brainwash to me.
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