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HawkeyeOC

Oct 17, 2011, 11:02 PM
Well my move from the Storm 2 to an iPhone 4s is not without it's problems. I may be back, but I am still on the fence about it.

Pros:
Siri is cool and almost a smart@ss at times. Best voice recognition system out there but thats not saying much because I never thought much of these systems
-no crashes, some momentary freezes, seamless and fluid device
-fun device for the masses that can make everyday life easier and ...yea...that word again...fun

cons:
-email...email...email
Anyone know you can't have iPhone and a desktop email clients running POP3 at the same time without issues? If both are set to check every few minutes or so, one of them will lock you out and not retrieve email. Outlook on my desktop is full of error codes. A...
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shamrock15

Oct 18, 2011, 9:18 AM
Hawkeye,
Thanks. Excellent, practical thoughts. I was thinking about jumping ship to become an Idweeb, but will wait for a while. Still running my Storm 1 and have yet to see how an Iphone, or even a Torch 9850, would be enough of an improvement to justify the uprgrade cost.
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HawkeyeOC

Oct 18, 2011, 11:40 AM
Thanks for the kind words!

I actually think the iPhone is an excellent product for the masses. It will probably work well for most people, but not all I am afraid. It's an exciting, fun phone that makes you want to use it, but...
For me, smartphones have to be for my business first. Blackberries have the advantage here still because they take a no nonsense approach to email/sms/ and messaging.

iPhones make it enjoyable to do these things but I am finding out it is not as efficient for business.
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HawkeyeOC

Oct 18, 2011, 3:34 PM
I am almost afraid to admit this, but I really hadn't played with the Torch until today at a Verizon store.
Build quality looked pretty good. At least when new I would never have known about a plastic type screen.

Surepress should not have been given up on. If you can get used to life without it the 9850 is familiar. You can easily learn it if you are a Storm user or "survivor" Laughing

It's faster, has lots of improvements to the whole experience. The increased real estates a plus. The keyboard in landscape mode is where I saw a huge difference. It's spread out more and actually threw off my typing.

The keys at the bottom look a little funky but Storm 2 with the early builds had issues with the integrated keys working properly. I li...
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shamrock15

Oct 18, 2011, 4:13 PM
Haweye,
I noticed that the Iphone calendar only allows a reminder up to 2 days in advance. I usually give myself a 1-week reminder on distant calendar appointments on my BB. Do you know if there is a way to alter that limitation on the Iphone?
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HawkeyeOC

Oct 18, 2011, 4:50 PM
Your right. Out of the box it only allows you to schedule alerts 2 days in advance. Found an app for that though so it looks like the issue can be addressed. "calendar-event pro"

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/calendar-event-pro/id ... »

Hope this helps!
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stormsurvivor

Oct 18, 2011, 5:19 PM
The wisest of the wise? ya made my day with that remark. Coming from the guy who was my "teacher." Hawk I have to reply to your post on the iphone forum and will do so in short order. You've provided me with a great deal of alternatives regarding the other platforms.

Funny, you mentioned the original Storm keys. I, too, preferred them to the Storm2....more travel and consistency. I tried the 9850 and was disappointed in the form factor and material components. When you become accustomed to metal & glass, its almost feels like going from an Infiniti to a Kia. No offense to Kia owners but its not my style.

You made mention of the email client. I am virtually a "prisoner" to pushed email. My business is committed to real time commun...
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HawkeyeOC

Oct 18, 2011, 6:18 PM
In my situation never let a Storm go out into the elements naked. Put a case and holster on it and you can hardly see what is beneath it anyway so if it's a Kia underneath, no one but me will know it Laughing

Surepress was either slammed or coveted by those that had Storms. If they had figured out how to turn it off and on it would have made more people happy. I liked it. It kept me from making mistakes.
All of us have to move to something else at some point I guess. I didn't find the 9850 touch screen any more hypersensitive than the iPhones. Huge adjustment still. Things open and get swiped you don't want sometimes.

Long live the Storm Very Happy
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stormsurvivor

Oct 18, 2011, 7:04 PM
Keep your eyes open for an Iphone5 with a 4" Screen.
RIM will release a 4" screen someday....BY that time, your Iphone will be residing in ICloud Heaven and people will be talking on their keychain phones... Rolling Eyes
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HawkeyeOC

Oct 18, 2011, 7:25 PM
stormsurvivor said:
Keep your eyes open for an Iphone5 with a 4" Screen.
RIM will release a 4" screen someday....BY that time, your Iphone will be residing in ICloud Heaven and people will be talking on their keychain phones... Rolling Eyes


I am told Steve Jobs was involved heavily in the iPhone 5. Rumors suggest the 4" screen and probably LTE...yada yada..yada...

1st quarter for QNX phones I hear? If I have to wait a friggen year for a full touch screen QNX phone, i'll be picketing in front of RIMs headquarters in Canada saying the same things wall street protesters are probably saying Laughing
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stormsurvivor

Oct 18, 2011, 8:50 PM
Common, 1st qtr. QNX? No way, Jose! Your an old timer at this. Remember the un-updates on the original Storm? They had 1001 bugs and more. Days went into weeks, weeks into months, unofficial leaks abounded and RIM did NOTHING. When they finally addressed the POS, it was two days later when they really rubbed it in, announcing the release of the 9550. So it was like, here doggy, here's a bone, but against the wall there's a new meal.

One of the two co-idiots that run RIM (to be truthful, run it into the ground), pronounced an email client on the crapware Playbook, not ready for prime-time monstrosity they released. 60 days they said. What is it 6,7 months or more now? NO email client!!!

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HawkeyeOC

Oct 19, 2011, 6:41 PM
Ordered a Torch 9850. The iPhone wizbang 4s is going back as soon as my plastic wonder arrives.

My fling with Siri and the phone she occupies taught me a lot Laughing Apple is no Blackberry and Blackberry is no Apple. I was actually apologizing on the phone for returning this. Frantic people everywhere trying to get their hands on iPhones everywhere and I don't want mine Shocked I am sure half the world thinks I am nuts for liking crackberries so much.
The rep of the other end of the phone admitted that Apple fruit phones aren't his cup of tea, but declined to say what he liked. I am guessing Android Laughing

I am not waiting 2 years for QNX. If I have to upgrade early I will do it Very Happy

The Storm 9550 is not on deck as a backup device Crying or Very sad
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shamrock15

Oct 20, 2011, 4:46 PM
Hawkeye,
Will be waiting to hear your thoughts on the 9850 after you've had some time with it. I did look at one at a Verizon store. The guy behind the counter discouraged me from looking at it, saying that "it had some issues." He pointed me to a Bold. I told him the small screen and crude little keyboard buttons didn't do anything for me, and left with my old Storm 1.
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HawkeyeOC

Oct 20, 2011, 5:14 PM
shamrock15 said:
Hawkeye,
Will be waiting to hear your thoughts on the 9850 after you've had some time with it. I did look at one at a Verizon store. The guy behind the counter discouraged me from looking at it, saying that "it had some issues." He pointed me to a Bold. I told him the small screen and crude little keyboard buttons didn't do anything for me, and left with my old Storm 1.


It may very well have had some issues. Verizon just released an official OS update yesterday with a lot of bug fixes. The Bold got an official OS update too with big red. I am sure there are all sorts of hybrid OS's floating around on Crackberry also.

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iamajim

Oct 24, 2011, 1:55 PM
Ahh common you guys, that 9850 looks pretty good to me lol. I had a Pearl for 2 years and then jumped to the S1, my poor wife futzed around with a variety of BB's and got the S1 at the same time, then jumped to the S2 which she still has but it's on it's last legs. I love my DINC1 but I sure do miss all that a BB can do; stuck with it until 12/12 so I'm hoping by then QNX will be out on a large screen phone and life will be good but with Mutt and Jeff in charge at RIM that's not looking to good. In the meantime I'm going to put her butt into the 9850, she's a BB girl and needs one to keep in touch with her family/friends back home (Indonesia, the land of BB's). As for crApple, I wouldn't have one but that's just me. Anybody know if the ...
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stormsurvivor

Oct 24, 2011, 1:58 PM
As soon as it becomes obsolete in about 6 months
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iamajim

Oct 24, 2011, 2:07 PM
Thanks, I was afraid of that; oh well, I guess I'll just have to talk to Santa about it hahaha.
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HawkeyeOC

Oct 24, 2011, 2:29 PM
stormsurvivor said:
As soon as it becomes obsolete in about 6 months


You think that long? Laughing
I am already going from Siri to some 10 year old voice recognition program on BB, 1080P and 8mp camera from the iPhone to 720p and 5mp and from an OS that dates back to 2007 to one that predates the dinosaurs.

I am ready to go here! Very Happy My lovable piece of crap is being delivered today. I am so excited Very Happy
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stormsurvivor

Oct 25, 2011, 10:01 AM
Congrats on your return to masochism-land. I was wrong about the form-factor. RIM is not using Fisher-Price plastic on that tough as nails under 4" screen. Its either Hasbro or Mattel.

Hey, Nuance voice recognition was also featured on Alexander Graham Bell's handset so delight in that cutting-edge technology. The camera has been improved. Lag time does not allow you to buy the morning papers while you wait for that click.

Your gonna love the "bleeding fields" whereby each screen shows partial words from the previous screen. "ities" (favorite's) and "nloads" (downloads). Its like a Wheel of Fortune game.

RIM has done some well-timed precious things such as when they came out with the Storm2....2days after the 5.0 update, after m...
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HawkeyeOC

Oct 25, 2011, 10:39 AM
stormsurvivor said:
Congrats on your return to masochism-land. I was wrong about the form-factor. RIM is not using Fisher-Price plastic on that tough as nails under 4" screen. Its either Hasbro or Mattel.

Hey, Nuance voice recognition was also featured on Alexander Graham Bell's handset so delight in that cutting-edge technology. The camera has been improved. Lag time does not allow you to buy the morning papers while you wait for that click.

Your gonna love the "bleeding fields" whereby each screen shows partial words from the previous screen. "ities" (favorite's) and "nloads" (downloads). Its like a Wheel of Fortune game.

RIM has done some well-timed precious things such as when they came out with the Storm
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stormsurvivor

Oct 25, 2011, 2:42 PM
You won't feel "homesick" for too long. You've kissed Siri goodbye. Fear not! RIMJob is working on a new voice navigation for your Torch...."Sucki"
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