I think Verizon gave up on this phone long ago. Its way outdated. It would have been cool if it were released about a year ago, but there really is nothing special about it. It would have been in the same class as the 4400, 720, and 9500. Verizon has enough color screen flip phones with b/w outer screen. No camera, no speakerphone. Telson should come out with an upgraded version with camera and push to talk and OLED outer screen. THAT would get people to visit the forum.