BlackBerry Curve 8330

either way they are fixed now and mine works great

Nobody knows what Sprint's delays really are. It's all speculation. People will complain and moan about the Curve when it comes to Sprint also, people will bitch and moan about EVERY phone because no phone is perfect. Stop hating on Verizon because they beat Sprint to the punch. Who cares? The phone will come out when it comes out. Then the Sprint moaning will begin.....Stop the bashing of cell phone companies - and I don't care who your provider is, Sprint's overall reputation ain't great, and many people can attest to that...

First of all, I work in data support for blackberries. Service Book issues and software issues are separate things. If the software has an issue, a new handheld software would be released from RIM and the carrier on the Carrier's website. So what you said is absolutely wrong. I did not deny that their were issues, I actually specified what they were,1) with mms, you can send, but can't receive messages" 2, the VZ Navigator link doesn't work on the 8330.

If either of these were actual software issues, and new software version or fix would have to be added online for download. Because they are service book related, the issue can be fixed quickly, and easily, as they have been. Right now, the vz nav link for the 8830 is working on the...
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I have always wondered why a person on an obviously sinking ship would always want to pick a fight and attack a group who is doing better than them? Why would person who loses a race everytime, start a rivalry against someone who proves to be better? I have nothing against Sprint, but why do many of it's fans continuously troll and criticize Verizon? Is it personal?

It's so interesting because Sprint is always dead last in customer service, even before they purchased Nextel, always number one in the amount of customers leaving them....again even before they purchased Nextel, and never number one in the amount of customers joining them, yet some of the customers choose to start trolling and criticizing Verizon, a company who is usuall...
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I am merely responding to Verizon people on here. I have never bashed Verizon. But the excuses that come out of people mouth just humor me. Considering that despite all of Sprint's problems they are still the number three carrier (close behind Verizon), that says a lot. We have a new CEO who is kicking you know what's and taking names, Verizon is struggling to keep ahead since this change. With the announcement of the clearwire deal with Sprint you would be smart to buy Sprint stock as low as it right now. People who keep looking at the past have a hard time planning for the future which is obviously how you choose to look at Sprint which is fine with me. I predict that Sprint will have as many if not more subscribers than Verizon by t...
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Predict all you want, blah blah.

We have our phones, mine works. I'm going to sell Sprint short, that's how much I think of your 'prediction'.

I am not with Sprint because of customer care, I don't buy phones for customer care. I buy phones for functionality, maybe you like someone to stroke your ego and tell you everything is all right sweetie, all I know is thaat when Sprint's curve comes out, it will have faster data speeds than yours and will be cheaper because your "unlimited plan" is a joke and even if I didn't have the unlimited plan our Blackberry packages are cheaper than yours. The phone will also be $179.99, so lets review: The phone is cheaper (good), the data speeds are faster (good), and the plans are cheaper (also good).....oh and one more thing my company cancel's the contract of whinny babies (awesome).

The price of Sprint;s phone will be cheaper? Really? On the front page of Phonescoop it says

"Verizon Makes BlackBerry Curve 8330 Available
Today, 10:10 AM by Eric M. Zeman

The smartphone is available beginning today online and through Verizon's business channels. It will be for sale in retail stores beginning May 12. The 8330 will cost $170 with contract after rebates."

And about it being faster with data speeds? Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought that EVDO=EVDO. Show me where it says Sprint's Curve will have EVDO REVA, and not EVDO Rev 0 like Verizon's?

Never said it Rev A, don't put words in my mouth. And saying CDMA is CDMA is like saying that At&t and T-mobile have the same data speeds because they are on the same network. Sprint averages faster data speeds than Verizon on phones and data cards. Try it for yourself.

First of all, you weren't merely responding, you were criticizing. No one was talking to you, so you weren't "merely responding". You just wanted to criticize. Secondly, Verizon also has REV A, so big deal. Third, you say Sprint's number 3, yeah they are. 4th, don't put words in my mouth, I didn't say "CDMA is CDMA" those were your words, I said EVDO Rev 0 equals EVDO Rev 0. The example of ATT and Tmobile isn't even valid because ATT has 3G like Sprint and Verizon, whereas Tmobile doesn't. So yes, ATT's 3G data speeds are faster than Tmobile's EDGE speeds, and rightly so. However, their EDGE Speeds are the same. I've tried Sprint's data cards, and I will admit, that they are plenty fast, but I haven't noticed them to be any faster t...
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I apologize. RevO is RevO, but Sprint has a larger RevO network than Verizon, thats fact. There are voice towers and voice towers with RevO, Sprint has more, which can handle more users therefore their speeds are higher because their capacity is higher. The quality is not spread out between so many users on fewer data towers. Hopefully that answers your question.

You are correct, they do have a slightly larger EVDO network than Verizon. But not by much. And Verizon has 67.2 million customers compared to Sprint's 54 million although you said it was close.

that will change. Have a good day.

Yeah, Sprint's been saying that for the past 7 or 8 years, but it's only gotten worse.

Yeah but they have a new CEO for only 6 months who has already made huge changes. Sounds like you are a Sprint hater and there is no reasoning with you. Put your blinders on and ignore all of the changes that they are making, keep thinking they will stay the same, it's ignorance. I have better things to do than argue semantics with someone who refuses who is not open to other people's opinions and is close minded. I have had Verizon service and was pleased with it, but switched to Sprint for a handset and price plans. Have no complaints but it seems like you have issues that you aren't letting go. Enjoy Verizon they are a great company, expensive but great.

Naw, not a Sprint hater, just a realist. History is kept to be reminders and to be a guide to help for the future. Statics are based on historical trends. I only brought this up because you started all of this to criticize Verizon, and no one was even criticizing Sprint, and Sprint's the one who has proven all of those negative things that I have spoken of. If sprint get's better, that'll be great because it will cause better pricing from verizon and ATT.

You can't talk to Sprint people. They don't get it. They don't understand there's a reason their company's rates are lower than everyone else's...

Yes there is, but to comment anymore would be too much bashing. I don't understand why some people don't understand that when they brag about Sprint's low pricing.

I don't understand why just because Sprint delayed the release of the phone, some of these posters have to blame Verizon customers and bash the company?? They act like they won't have any issues with their phone, and they will. But it's still a great phone, the issues are not monumental, and the vast majority will love it. Verizon put it out early to the delight of their customers, and that just p o 'd the Sprinters even more...but the reviews thus far say it all and this forum today has actually been extremely entertaining...

I never came on here to bash Verizon, all of this started when I commented on the Sprint's Curve and Verizon's Curve having different applications on them and each carrier having different standards for their phone to be released. This is a true statement and info that I received personally from Blackberry. This is a forum, you don't have to believe what I write, thats up to you. I wrote that stuff based on info that I received and put it up here to offer some insight as to why there was possibly a delay. It seems that as soon as someone says anything about verizon people get all offended and start Sprint bashing.
I don't care if you like Sprint, because I do, I like Verizon too. I hope eventually we will be able to share phones, that ...
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oh they'll definitely be bitching, don't worry. they're still just bitter they don't have it yet. i don't even WANT it yet, I'm going to wait until EVERYONE has it and see what they say, including the Sprint "purists" who bow down before some cell phone gods somewhere...and what the hell is wrong with tucson?? I'd rather be there than LA
lol

Please don't spread the word on that. We've had enough LA 30K millionaires move to AZ.

Some of them actually have web sites. 👿

Thank god! Seriously, I come here to see new updates and information reguarding devices that maybe someone else has heard or seen. It bugs me when people insist something they know nothing about, however. Its misleading and its people like you who work for tabloid companies.

Reguardless, however, after reading part of this little forum war, has anybody realized that Verizon has been voted #1 in consumer reports for the past 7 years, while Sprint has been in Last for the past 4? Stick by which ever company you feel worthy, but dont use insignificant research to determine the winner.

I used to have Sprint and worked for Sprint...and I had bad experiences....I now have Verizon and have worked for Verizon for 3 years, but you'll never hear...
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I never came on here to bash Verizon, all of this started when I commented on the Sprint's Curve and Verizon's Curve having different applications on them and each carrier having different standards for their phone to be released. This is a true statement and info that I received personally from Blackberry. This is a forum, you don't have to believe what I write, thats up to you. I wrote that stuff based on info that I received and put it up here to offer some insight as to why there was possibly a delay. It seems that as soon as someone says anything about verizon people get all offended and start Sprint bashing.
I don't care if you like Sprint, because I do, I like Verizon too. I hope eventually we will be able to share phones, that would...
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I appreciate your news, it's good to know it's people that understand where I'm coming from. I found one guy on this forum that said he's better than Sprint employees and Mcdonalds had better customer service than Sprint. Of course I responded to that one, how can you put a fast food and wireless company in the same category. Back on subject, don't let people discourage your posts. I realized one thing about people on this site, no matter if you're trying to help others out they always tend to bash you just for helping.

You are such a supportive wife, where do you work? Have you heard anything about when the phones will get to the stores? I heard they were shipped out today, so i am hoping tomorrow or monday.

I'm in retail in NJ. I heard we're supposed to have them by the weekend but who knows.

seriously though.. who knows.. we were supposed to have this thing ages ago

You never came on here to bash Verizon?

Here's your post:

"Let Verizon and it's customer's be satisfied with getting their phone first, let Sprint and it's customer's be satisfied with a superior phone.
I have to say it.........TOLD YOU SO!!!!!!"

Do you still claim that you didn't come here to bash Verizon?

I value a fireman when there is a fire, but passing on bogus figures (the 80%/95% thing) and insisting that they are true is lame. Your inside information is completely bunk. Honestly I don't care about Sprint/Alltell/Verizon/etc. My company requires that I use Verizon so I use it. BUT I do care when people spout off things without knowing and I DO care when people take the elitist attitude in which you started this thread...
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How does that statement bash Verizon, I said let Verizon and it's customers be happy with getting their phone first, thats not a negative comment. You are very sensitive. Did I say something bad about Verizon? No! I said that Sprint's phone is superior, thats my opinion which I am entitled to. If you don't like the figures of 80% and 95% TALK TO BLACKBERRY, IT CAME FROM THEM!!! I don't know how many times I have to say that. Since you like doing research so much (which is just weird that you looked up my stuff, and creepy) why don't you get in touch with Blackberry and ask them what the pass rates are for each carrier on the Curve. I am not making this stuff up to help my argument, they are true statements that happen to help my argumen...
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You gave the impression that because Verizon's version was out first, and there were some "issues" people were having, that Sprint's version was being held up so it could be released and be "perfect". That just infuriated some people; how could it not? The Sprint version will undoubtedly have quirks as well. The "I told you so" was insulting and unnecessary. The bashing of people back and forth is also unnecessary; everyone is entitled to their opinion and their own cell provider. In any event, the phone is out for everyone now, so just have fun with it and let's everyone help each other figure out the problems and issues. That should be what this forum is for.

I don't understand why the Verizon customers seem to get so mad whenever something about their carrier is pointed out, but whenever they bash Sprint it's okay. Also how does saying the Sprint Curve is superior bashing Verizon? What can you say it's not going to be as restricted as Verizon's, it has the Sprint Music store, Sprint TV, Telenav, the ability to use 3rd party ringers and the Simply Everything plan. It's not that serious to get all upset about the phone unless you made it which I'm sure nobody on here did. 🙂

I'm sure Sprint is a fine carrier. I can't use it for my corporate network so it's a moot point for me.

The original poster of this thread came here to bash and to say he told us so. Then he has the audacity to claim that he didn't when it's right there in his post.

YOUR INFORMATION IS NOT CORRECT.


How many times to we need to bash you in your head before you realize that the blackberry rep was full of crap? An 80% pass rate wouldn't even fly in a third world country, not something Verizon specs out. Know what you are talking about please.

The service book issue only applied to the few people that were able to get phones PRIOR to their release date.

Go read that first sentence over and over and over until you comprehend it.

Please read this sentence over and over. THIS IS NOT MY INFORMATION, IT IS FROM BLACKBERRY!!!!! I'll give oyou a minute to let it sick in........................................... ............................................. ....
Got it? This information is from the National training rep, let me repeat NATIONAL TRAINING REP, he represents all carriers, ALL CARRIERS, not just Sprint. This was actually a quote from 2 Blackberry Reps, one being the regional rep for the west and Hawaii and the National rep. I'm sorry that you can't comprehend this, I really don't know why it is so hard for you to understand. I can guarantee you that if the numbers were reversed I would have come on here, written a post, shared my information and been disapp...
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Your information comes from a regional and national training rep?!! No wonder it's false.

Not only do YOU not know of what you speak, but neither do these SALESMEN. Yep, they are salesmen, not engineers. Do you even know what a dB or attenuation is? Did you take any statistical manufacturing classes? Do you realize that 80% pass rate would be UNHEARD of from a modern SMT pick and place machine, even for a phone? Just because you were told something, by someone that seemed credible doesn't make it so. Those of us that know manufacturing and wireless call BS on these numbers. I'm not the only one.

"verizon is always late on having phones that other carriers have...so to say that verizon needed 80% and sprint wanted 95% rating is ...
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Sick in? 😲 😲 😲 😲