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Your teenage daughter takes nasty pictures of herself.

kickmeoffphonescoop

Oct 9, 2008, 10:19 PM
Nothing is better than when a customer gets an upgrade, and then decides to leave their phone at the store because they "don't need it anymore".

Newsflash: Most of ya'll take nasty pictures of yourself. You know you do.

So do your kids.

And if your daughter has a nice rack, I'll probably takes those pictures and transfer them onto my phone with my UME machine.

I might just call that little tramp too.
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BLEDSOE

Oct 10, 2008, 9:04 AM
even funnier when the parents phone is broken and the kid is upgrading to give the phone to mom or dad. They are desperate to clear that phone and their parents are clueless.....

You may have seen it when you changed her diapers....but now it is displayed a little differently...
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USCELLGIRL

Oct 10, 2008, 1:11 PM
I had a father bring in his daughters phone to have her contacts moved to her new phone. After the transfer was complete I picked up her phone and noticed the welcome messege said I love BIG C**K along with a rather up close and personal picture of a man part. While I was in back heard the daughter come in and ask if it was done yet, in that teenage snotty tone. So I turned the phone back off and as I handed the phone back to the father turned it back on. Not sure whos face was redder...dads or daughters. ๐Ÿคญ ๐Ÿคฃ
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Jayshmay

Oct 11, 2008, 3:47 AM
You should've given it back to the daughter!!!
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ElTriste

Oct 11, 2008, 4:15 PM
I've had that a few times. especially when I worked for my indirect store. My old manager was the one who pointed it out...this girl was DROP DEAD GORGEOUS! she exchanges the phone, and I use the RTN menu on the blade to find the security code for the pix and videos...oh my god. ๐Ÿ˜ณ
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Jayshmay

Oct 11, 2008, 10:15 PM
What is an RTN number?
You know another reason people have naked pix on they're phones is to get sex on Craigslist, don't forget about that reason.
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ElTriste

Oct 11, 2008, 10:48 PM
The RTN menu (with sprint pcs, ##rtn#) it gives you the phone information, including the security passcode on the phone
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Jayshmay

Oct 11, 2008, 10:53 PM
Oooh damn, it's that easy?!!? Do a lot of people even use passwords on they're phones?
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JesusSaves

Oct 13, 2008, 9:54 AM
Interesting!!!
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Saint.Patrick

Oct 14, 2008, 8:13 AM
You are just a vile as kickmeoffphonescoop. I hope you as well as your manager who apparently is a poor example of one get caught.
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tmorep03

Dec 9, 2010, 2:37 PM
AND PICKED UP HER NUMBER LOL JK
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Saint.Patrick

Oct 13, 2008, 5:15 PM
That is just perverse and twisted to say the very least.
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kapwww

Oct 13, 2008, 5:21 PM
Why? The post didn't say they were taking the pictures for their own use. Just saying that kids do that kind of crap and try to hide it from their parents. Personally, I would find it funny to see some little brat get busted for their immoral behavior.
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Saint.Patrick

Oct 10, 2008, 9:20 AM
I hope you get caught by of the management team and are terminated for cause. Your statement of "And if your daughter has a nice rack, I'll probably takes those pictures and transfer them onto my phone with my UME machine. I might just call that little tramp too." just shows your lack of sound judgement as well as professionalism. It is individuals like yourself who given wireless sales professionals a poor standing in retail.
I also strongly disagree with your accusation of "Most of ya'll take nasty pictures of yourself. You know you do." as I'm sure the majority/51% of customers do not engage in that sort of activity. Keep up posts like this and I won't be suprised if Rich and Eric commence what your forum screen name here suggests. That ...
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overboost_t88

Oct 10, 2008, 9:55 AM
** OWNED ** ๐Ÿคฃ ๐Ÿ˜ฒ
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ACSlater

Oct 10, 2008, 10:08 AM
LOL.
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JimmyTaliban

Oct 10, 2008, 10:58 AM
You should get a different screen name.

Something along the lines of giantstickinmyarse sounds good.
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MildManneredClarkGrunion

Oct 10, 2008, 11:10 AM
I think the name is appropriate. ๐Ÿ˜•
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JesusSaves

Oct 10, 2008, 12:10 PM
He is right though. Not only is it in bad taste. If the girl in question is under age it would also be illegal. If you had to take your computer in to someplace like Best Buy would you really want them to be downloading your pics and other info?
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Saint.Patrick

Oct 10, 2008, 1:52 PM
Jesus definitely saves! John 11:26

I'm not above any one here people. To MildManneredClarkGrunion, I have my strengths and faults just like everyone else so drop the "holier than thou" label. Depending on the state in with you live, those pictures on the customer's handset may be construed as child pornography and by copying them, you are committing a felony by possessing child pornography and each picture can very well be an indictment of one count per picture. Kickmeoffphonescoop I feel is a blackened blemish on the white canvas the rest of the professional wireless sales people are attempting to paint in the eyes not only of our peers, but our customers as well.
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caca

Oct 10, 2008, 1:56 PM
*foot in ass*

hes gunna do w/e he wants

so stop bitchin
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Saint.Patrick

Oct 10, 2008, 2:03 PM
What I've said is quite truthful so if you have a problem with it, deal with it. Kickmeoffphonescoop should be terminated for his actions and if copying the pictures for lewd personal pleasures, prosecuted by law enforcement if applicable. BTW, nice crass gravitar you have there caca.
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Butthead007

Oct 10, 2008, 6:28 PM
I agree 100% with Saint Patrick. Copying customer info is grounds for termination and underage pics can get you into alot of trouble.

What are you, 15 caca? Seriously, you are a moron.
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JessicaLauren

Oct 12, 2008, 6:16 PM
Ive heard of so many reps doing that, if your dumb enought to hand over a phone with pics you dont want seen, then both parties are at fault.
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Saint.Patrick

Oct 13, 2008, 12:30 PM
The one who is guilty in this whole thread is kickmeoffphonescoop after stating...

"And if your daughter has a nice rack, I'll probably takes those pictures and transfer them onto my phone with my UME machine."

Employees do not have any rights to copying/listening/transferring/viewing any multimedia content of a customer's previous wireless device even if the device is left at the employee's store for the employee's own pleasure.
No, aside from asking a customer to set theit wireless device screensaver/wallpaper to an OEM one, employees don't have any control over what is on the screen, but they do have 100% of investigating what multimedia is on the device.
This particular teenager, according to kickmeoffphonescoop, was 19. What is...
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Lateralus55

Oct 10, 2008, 2:26 PM
FYI. Jesus does not save. He kills people that don't believe in him and rapes little boys.
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wizardofCroz

Oct 10, 2008, 5:45 PM
๐Ÿ˜ณ wow i'm an athiest and thats a little offensive. lol
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JesusSaves

Oct 13, 2008, 9:46 AM
I am not sure where that comes from but it is totally inaccurate. He does not kill people that do not believe in him. They go to Hell only because they choose not to accept the free gift of life everlasting. It is like when somebody has committed a crime and then go before the Judge they will be found guilty and sentenced. However God did not want that so He sent his Son to die for everybody's sins and all they have to do is accept the free gift. And the judge will find them not guilty. And of course Jesus has never raped anybody.
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MildManneredClarkGrunion

Oct 13, 2008, 9:54 AM
and lead a good and humble life, yet don't acknowledge Jesus as my personal savior, do I still go to Hell.

What kind of god condemns a decent man to eternal damnation? ๐Ÿคจ
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ralph_on_me

Oct 13, 2008, 10:04 AM
#1 thing I learned in seminary: The "gift" of Jesus was redundant. The Hebrew god was already offering salvation through grace. Jesus was a false prophet.
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JesusSaves

Oct 13, 2008, 10:41 AM
Yes, because if you choose to not accept the free gift of salvation then you are judge by the Ten Commandments. And according to the Bible "All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God." That means you too. Don't believe it take the test. Maybe it is easier for me because I have lived such a horrible sin filled life that I know there is no way I could make it on my own. I don't know. Let us take a test to see if you can make it into Heaven without Jesus. 1. Ever used God's name in vain? That is blasphemy. Ever stolen anything no matter how small? That is breaking the commandment though shall not steal. Even if you think well at least I have never committed adultery you are fooling yourself because Jesus says that Anyone who looks at ...
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MildManneredClarkGrunion

Oct 13, 2008, 10:45 AM
Sin horribly and accept Jesus as your savior, straight to heaven.

Good and decent but lack fealty, straight to hell.

The fault of your religion is summed in those two sentences.
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wizardofCroz

Oct 13, 2008, 11:09 AM
one adjustment: Sin horribly, accept Jesus and GIVE ALL YOUR MONEY..straight to heaven
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devilsmafia

Oct 13, 2008, 11:13 AM
Amen brotha ๐Ÿ˜ˆ
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JesusSaves

Oct 13, 2008, 11:26 AM
Jesus never asked for your money. Man did.
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OfAMightDivine

Oct 13, 2008, 12:33 PM
But if I don't give 10% of my yearly salary, I will spend eternity in H-E-Double Hockey Sticks!
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JesusSaves

Oct 13, 2008, 5:45 PM
Nobody ever said that. In fact the Bible says in John 3:16 that "For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son that whosoever believeth in him shall not perish but have ever lasting life. Nowhere does it say that you also have to give 10 % of your yearly salary.
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Cosmic Spiderman

Dec 8, 2010, 9:35 PM
I love that people want to color chhristianity with the Jimmy Swaggard paint brush. It is so easy to look at these people in the public eye that screw things up. But even if you are not a christioan or even believe in God. Jesus' teachings were at the minimum good guidelines to live by. And to be honest, while I might be seen as a fool, by believing in God and the teachings of The Bible, I have nothing to lose. If non-believers are right and I am wrong, there is nothing after this for me. But if I am right and they are wrong...well, I wouldn't want to be in their shoes.
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This_Troper

Dec 9, 2010, 12:19 AM
Just to throw in some religious stuff? That's quite the no-go!

Why would you search through over two years worth of posts just to defend Christianity? It's like every other day in the Lounge.
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Cosmic Spiderman

Dec 9, 2010, 12:28 AM
Actually, I didn't "search through" anything to defend christianity. It just happened that I was reading post. Eventually, I came across these post and it frustrated me. But since when did you become the Post Police? ๐Ÿ˜•
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This_Troper

Dec 9, 2010, 12:33 AM
Every day I make a post to tell people to bring their customer complaints to Shop Talk.

Hey, I love talking religion as much as the next ex-Jehovah's Witness. I just put it in the right place.

Also? This One Time? I got a warning for talking about Boxes and sea-dwelling Mammals.
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wizardofCroz

Oct 13, 2008, 2:26 PM
just so you know... religion didn't invent man. Man invented religion
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devilsmafia

Oct 13, 2008, 2:41 PM
Words to live by ๐Ÿ˜ˆ
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metalsmokearsenal

Oct 13, 2008, 6:10 PM
Televangelists
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JesusSaves

Oct 13, 2008, 11:25 AM
EVERYBODY has sinned. No one outside of Jesus has led a perfect life . That is why he was able to take the sins of the world onto his back. We are all judged by God's standards not man's. Because God is perfect he cannot by his very nature abide by sin thereby since he did not want any to perish he sent his Son to die on the cross for our sins. To wash away our sins so we are able to stand in the presence of Jesus. I guess it is easier for me to accept the gift because I have led a horrible life and realize that there is no other way I would be able to get in. The problem other people have is they see themselves as a pretty good person that does not deserve Hell. Unfortunately, nobody has been perfect in their life and therefore have to have...
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ralph_on_me

Oct 13, 2008, 12:02 PM
I've never sinned in my entire life.
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robtheman

Oct 13, 2008, 12:07 PM
That's not what Jenny said.
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ralph_on_me

Oct 13, 2008, 12:09 PM
Just because something is dirty it doesn't make it a sin.
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robtheman

Oct 13, 2008, 12:42 PM
It does make it smell like poo though.
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JesusSaves

Oct 13, 2008, 12:12 PM
You just lied...therefore you have just sinned.
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ralph_on_me

Oct 13, 2008, 12:22 PM
actually you just lied by calling me a liar. I have never sinned. I don't need anyone's forgiveness because I've never done anything wrong.
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JesusSaves

Oct 13, 2008, 12:30 PM
The Bible states: For ALL have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. It does not say All but ralph on me have sinned.
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robtheman

Oct 13, 2008, 12:43 PM
You're going on the false assumption that the Bible is factual and accurate.


Seriously, take this to the Lounge.
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JesusSaves

Oct 13, 2008, 1:31 PM
The Bible is factual and accurate. Nothing false about it. And if you do not want this conversation to continue then stop writing things that I have to respond to.
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devilsmafia

Oct 13, 2008, 1:42 PM
I'm an atheist. But i do believe that there is a possibility that certain things in the bible have happened but there is absolutely no way that you can prove that every word in the bible is true and accurate. No one can.
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wizardofCroz

Oct 13, 2008, 2:33 PM
thats just the difference between christians and people who do this weird thing with their head, i believe its called...THINKING.

Christians: "you can't disprove it, so it must be true."

ME: you can't prove that your invisible man in the sky is real, so until you can, i'll save my money for something else, thanks. ๐Ÿ˜›
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devilsmafia

Oct 13, 2008, 2:42 PM
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JesusSaves

Oct 13, 2008, 4:59 PM
It is not that "you can't disprove it, so it must be true." It is that it HAS been proven to me so I know it to be true.
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devilsmafia

Oct 13, 2008, 5:03 PM
believe what you will, but it's never been proven to you.
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JesusSaves

Oct 13, 2008, 5:42 PM
Yes it has. I realize that there is no other explanation that makes sense. Nothing else explains the spark of life...or the prophacys in the Bible. How Jesus's coming was predicted by the the writers of the Old Testament. Not just his coming but the number of temples that were going to be built in Isreal. The seperation and then bringing together of God's people. Even us...look at Daniel 7:2-8 The first animal looked like a lion (England) but had wings like a eagle (US) until it's wings were torn off. (our seperation from England) Then there was a second animal before me that looked like a bear (the Soviet Union) it was told get up and eat all the meat (countries) you want. The next animal looked like a leopard (Germany). Anyways, it goes on...
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devilsmafia

Oct 13, 2008, 5:50 PM
You know what prophecy is? Coincidence. Everything happens by chance. I'm gonna prophecise right now. Sometime in the future, maybe soon, maybe later a deer will walk through the woods and somebody will shoot that deer.

$10 bucks says my phrophecy comes true one day. Possibly sooner than later. Now if my prophecy comes true, shouldnt that mean that I have godly powers and that people should worship me as well?
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OfAMightDivine

Oct 13, 2008, 5:51 PM
I just shot a deer while walking through the woods. AMAZING! ๐Ÿ˜ ๐Ÿ˜ ๐Ÿ˜
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devilsmafia

Oct 13, 2008, 6:30 PM
I saw that. Nice shot. I guess you should probably get down on your knees and pray to me since my prophecy came true. ๐Ÿ˜ˆ
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JesusSaves

Oct 13, 2008, 6:01 PM
But do you have and prophecys concerning the rise of nations or the next world leader down to even the town that he is going to be born in?
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devilsmafia

Oct 13, 2008, 6:30 PM
Yeah, here ya go.

Sometime in the futre, a child will be born in New York City. He'll go to school and graduate. He'll then go to college and graduate as a law student. He'll practice law for quite some years until he attention turns to politics. He'll begin his political career as a senator eventually working his way up to the presidency. He'll pass some laws, he'll veto some laws. He'll lower the deficit. He'll have our country involved in a war.

Another $10 bucks says it will happen.
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JesusSaves

Oct 13, 2008, 6:33 PM
You forgot to say which college lol
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devilsmafia

Oct 13, 2008, 6:41 PM
Harvard law, and then a 2 year post graduate session at Oxford.
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JesusSaves

Oct 13, 2008, 6:53 PM
๐Ÿคฃ ๐Ÿคฃ ๐Ÿคฃ Now can you predict a leader that has not even been born yet like Daniel? He did not wait till they had a 50-50 chance of becoming a leader before making a SUDDEN prediction. He predicted Jesus hundreds of years before he was born. Pretty sure he didn't take bets on it either but I could be wrong.
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robtheman

Oct 13, 2008, 11:09 PM
OR

Someone read the prediction by Daniel and added it into the New Testament to say that Jesus fulfilled the prophesy.
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JesusSaves

Oct 14, 2008, 11:26 PM
I must say that is an interesting hypothesis
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robtheman

Oct 14, 2008, 11:28 PM
Accept it or reject it, it's worth consideration.
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JesusSaves

Oct 15, 2008, 6:19 AM
I reject it but you are right it is worth consideration.
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wizardofCroz

Oct 14, 2008, 10:51 AM
the Bible is so vague that you can pretty much say it predicts anything and everything. As far as predicting Jesus, it probably says that the Messiah (or someone claiming to be) will arrive sometime in the next two thousand years. wow. i'm impressed. not to sound sacreligious, but more people have been murdered in the name of God than for any other reason.
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People are led to believe that there's this invisible man in the sky that watches everything you do. He has a list of 10 things he doesn't want you to do, and if you do one of those 10 things he'll send you to a place of fire and death and destruction and killing where you'll burn and suffer in pain and anguish....BUT HE LOVES YOU!!!!

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JesusSaves

Oct 14, 2008, 11:39 PM
I am not sure where you got any of that. He does not send you to Hell as a matter of fact he does everything that he can to make sure you do not go to Hell but have everlasting life. 2 Peter 3:9 states The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance. The ten commandments are for those people who do not accept the free gift of salvation through Jesus. God realizes that man has a sin nature and could not even follow 10 simple rules so he sent his only son to die on the cross for you, me and anybody who accepts him. When did God EVER say that HE needed your money? Please go actually read the Bible. It states the town he will be bor...
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JesusSaves

Oct 14, 2008, 11:52 PM
The Bible also states that "First of all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires.They will say, "Where is this 'coming' he promised? Ever since our fathers died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation."
But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day.The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance."

Whether you want to believe it or not we are in the last days. If it goes as just stated then every day of creation was actually 1,000 years as we know time ...
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wizardofCroz

Oct 15, 2008, 9:03 AM
Go read one of the first posts that started this conversation...

Sin horribly and repent: straight to heaven
Live a decent life without believing in some invisible man in the sky: BURN!

Whether YOU want to believe it or not, you're completely full of sh!t (to put it in a nice way)
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JesusSaves

Oct 15, 2008, 5:59 PM
Decent is not perfect. Everybody has to have their sins paid for. God by his very nature cannot abide by sin. Therefore he has given you a way to become spotless. To become free from sin. Not wanting to have nothing but robots he did give you free will. You can accept the gift of Jesus having died on the cross for your sin thereby making you pure or you can go to hell. Again your choice not God's.
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JesusSaves

Oct 15, 2008, 12:22 AM
The Bible also tells us what all is going to happen during day six or the last thousand years before his return. Jesus said many will come in his name including the anti-christ who will even enter the temple and declare himself God. We have already had quite a few: Jim Jones 1978, David Koresh 1993, Maitreya 2006, Sun Myung Moon 2006,
There will be wars and rumors of wars. People will be Lovers of money, Unforgiving, Conceited, Ungrateful and unholy ,etc
Another sign is more frequent and more powerful earthquakes. Dec, 26, 2003 6.6 magnitude southeastern iran about 31,000 were killed, December 26, 2004 9.0 magnitude Indonesia more than 283,100 people were killed in the resulting tsunami. etc, April 18th 2008 there was even a earthquake...
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devilsmafia

Oct 15, 2008, 12:00 PM
Earthquakes can happen anywhere anytime. Even in illinois. Just becuase it doesnt happen as often in illinois as it does in california or other places doesnt mean it's not possible. Our entire planets crust sits on top of tectonic plates that are constantly moving and shifting. When they slip or grind up against each other they cause earthquakes which can happen anywhere at any time. Earth quakes are not a sign of anything.
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wizardofCroz

Oct 15, 2008, 1:28 PM
its the sign of the apocolypse because the world in scheduled to end in 24 years. which means: in 24 years nothing will happen and the excuse we'll hear is, "its God's will" "thy will be done".

All this religion following is nothing but a way to control people. BELIEVE WHAT I BELIEVE OR BE PUNISHED!
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JesusSaves

Oct 15, 2008, 6:09 PM
All I ask is that you sincerely pray about it. Ask God if there is some chance that I may be right. Close the prayer with in Jesus's name. Sincere being the key word here.
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JesusSaves

Oct 15, 2008, 6:07 PM
Yes, that taken by itself is meaningless. However start looking at the increase in frequency and strength. Then add in the other things mentioned The hurricanes have become more frequent and more powerful. 2003 saw 3 level 5 (the strongest level) hurricanes: Wilma, Rita, and Katrina. We have also had a increase of wildfires in California and in Texas and other places. The wars being fought have become more deadly. I hope that even if you do not believe in God you can see the world will not be here much longer. There is also Global warming amongst other things. I can also tell you the things that are still to come if you wish. Not from me but from the Bible.
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devilsmafia

Oct 15, 2008, 6:22 PM
You're not telling me anything that hasnt been taking place on this planet since it was first formed 14 billion years ago. You think the weather and climate is bad now? What about the ice age that this planet suffered through millions of years ago. Or whatever planetary destruction caused the dinosaurs to become extinct more quickly then they should have. I'd say hurricane katrina and such are like waves in a kiddy pool compared to the weather that has shaped and formed our planet millions of years ago.

Weather happens. It's upredictible. It's chaos. Different elements coming together by chance at the right moment and time to form storms, quakes, tidal waves. It's got nothing to do with the bible. It's nature running it's course.

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JesusSaves

Oct 15, 2008, 6:50 PM
And how do you know there was an ice age millions of years ago?

"Hey your god created us, so you could technically blame him for our own destruction. "
This is like saying that if somebody said I know that the President is going to get shot today and went about trying to warn people and maybe try to even change the President's path then that person could still be technically be blamed for the President getting shot?
God gave us free will. We choose to destroy the world he gave us. He tried to warn us and even gave us a way out. It is up to us if we want to take it.
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devilsmafia

Oct 15, 2008, 6:56 PM
science has proven that there was an ice age millions of years ago. that's how i know. hard facts and physical evidence. unlike what your holy bible can provide. all you can do is quote what is written in a book by men. I can do the same thing. I read a book once written by a man. It was called 20,000 leagues under the sea. That story had to have actually happened. It was written in a book by a man.
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JesusSaves

Oct 15, 2008, 7:39 PM
Yes but it was not co-authored by God. 2nd Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by God.
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devilsmafia

Oct 15, 2008, 7:50 PM
Again, no proof. I could write and book and say that god helped me write it. who's to say wether it is true or not? If I told you that god spoke to me and told me to write this book about whatever subject, would you beleive me? If no, how would you ever know. If yes, then you might be a fool. Anybody can say whateve they want and some people will beleive em some wont. Nobody can prove that your god co-authored the bible other than what the words that are written in it say. And again i stress my point that since someone wrote the book 20,000 leagues under the sea it must be a true story. Who's to say that your god didnt co-author that and the writer just didnt tell anyone.
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JesusSaves

Oct 15, 2008, 8:12 PM
I guess we will all find out the truth on Judgement day.
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Crapbag

Oct 15, 2008, 8:13 PM
That's assuming there is a Judgement Day...
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MildManneredClarkGrunion

Oct 14, 2008, 11:00 AM
It was decided after the fact that Jesus could fit the bill.
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wizardofCroz

Oct 14, 2008, 10:26 AM
JesusSaves said:
Yes it has. I realize that there is no other explanation that makes sense. Nothing else explains the spark of life...or the prophacys in the Bible. How Jesus's coming was predicted by the the writers of the Old Testament. Not just his coming but the number of temples that were going to be built in Isreal. The seperation and then bringing together of God's people. Even us...look at Daniel 7:2-8 The first animal looked like a lion (England) but had wings like a eagle (US) until it's wings were torn off. (our seperation from England) Then there was a second animal before me that looked like a bear (the Soviet Union) it was told get up and eat all the meat (countries) you want. The next animal looked like a l
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JesusSaves

Oct 14, 2008, 11:16 PM
So, what do you think the countries were in his vision?
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JesusSaves

Oct 15, 2008, 6:29 AM
I am asking not because I am discrediting what your beliefs on the subject are. I am honestly curious at what others think in regards to this subject.
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wizardofCroz

Oct 15, 2008, 9:46 AM
no where in that quote does it say anything about countries. it talks about some lion with wings (which makes very little sense to begin with). YOU interpreted these animals as countries, not the bible. Then again, every fairy tale could be interpreted at many differnt levels.
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JesusSaves

Oct 15, 2008, 6:19 PM
I also did not include every part of every verse for brevity's sake. If you go further in Daniel 7:16- 17
16. I came near one of those standing there and asked what all this meant. So he told me and explained to me what these things meant.
17. The four great animals are four kingdoms that will come from the earth.

In other words I got my interpretation from the Bible. Now whether I got the right countries I truly do not know but it sure does fit. And since in the Vision (there is more of it by the way if you care to read it) they are talking about the end times it does seem to fit.
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devilsmafia

Oct 15, 2008, 12:12 PM
Oh and by the way, america isnt the only country that was created by the seperation from another country. And germany isnt the only country that tried to rule the world either. didn't the roman empire try that thousands of years before germany existed?

It amuses me that you interpret the bible using modern ideas when the bible was supposedly written 2 thousand years ago. those people didnt even know other continents existed with the exception of maybe africa.
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OfAMightDivine

Oct 15, 2008, 12:15 PM
They also 'knew' the earth was flat. Another other idea was a ridiculous notion and could get you stoned to death if the ones in power heard if your treason.
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devilsmafia

Oct 15, 2008, 1:07 PM
and don't forget about how everyone thought the sun and all the other planets revolved around the earth ๐Ÿคฃ
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robtheman

Oct 15, 2008, 1:09 PM
I think the church finally forgave Copernicus in like 1998.
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devilsmafia

Oct 15, 2008, 1:25 PM
Have the forgiven Newton yet? ๐Ÿคฃ
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JesusSaves

Oct 15, 2008, 5:50 PM
"It amuses me that you interpret the bible using modern ideas when the bible was supposedly written 2 thousand years ago. those people didnt even know other continents existed with the exception of maybe africa."

This is my point exactly. Even though they did not know about what the future was going to hold or what other countries would be brought into existence they were able to still write all about it.

This part you wrote is correct.
"america isnt the only country that was created by the seperation from another country. And germany isnt the only country that tried to rule the world either. didn't the roman empire try that thousands of years before germany existed?"

However the symbol for England IS the lion...just look at all ...
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devilsmafia

Oct 15, 2008, 6:33 PM
If you do a little more reseach, you'll find that england, america, russia aren't the only countries that have those particular animals associated with them. I just looked at a list and found at least 3 or 4 other countries that have an "eagle" type bird associated with them. And there are other countries that associate the lion and the bear with themselves. Indian tribes, Mayan and other south american tribes, african tribes, all used different animal symbols for many different things. Ancient people used animals as representations for all sorts of things. Look at the ancient egyptian empire. Most of thier written language was made up of animal ymbols. Plus you don't know what societies and countries used animal symbols 2000 years ago. so h...
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JesusSaves

Oct 15, 2008, 7:50 PM
True and I must admit I cannot be certain that I have ascertained the correct combination of countries. Alot of what I wrote came from endtime.com. But again to me it fits. Since, you are not a believer. None of what I believe will even matter to you.
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metalsmokearsenal

Oct 15, 2008, 8:12 PM
as the crossing of the 12th planet..

Every 3,600 years the planet passes by..earth.. and red dust falls trailing behind the Red Plant..

Hence everything turning red..

So they only predicted when the planet would pass by.. and all those other predictions..were for when the "gods" were supposed to arrive and leave planet Earth.
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wizardofCroz

Oct 13, 2008, 5:29 PM
it might have been proven "spiritually" ( religion likes to use that word to get around the truth) but not virtually.
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robtheman

Oct 13, 2008, 3:03 PM
If that's the case, I want you to look up the death of Judas in Matthew and Acts. Tell me how the Bible can be factual and accurate when there are two completely separate and different stories of the same event.
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robtheman

Oct 13, 2008, 3:16 PM
Tell you what. I'll do the hard part for you and quote the Bible so you don't have to search for it.

Matthew 27:3-8
Then Judas, which had betrayed him, when he saw that he was condemned, repented himself, and brought again the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders, Saying, I have sinned in that I have betrayed the innocent blood. And they said, What is that to us? see thou to that. And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself. And the chief priests took the silver pieces, and said, It is not lawful for to put them into the treasury, because it is the price of blood. And they took counsel, and bought with them the potter's field, to bury strangers in.
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JesusSaves

Oct 13, 2008, 5:20 PM
Best question I have gotten here. Also the most intelligently put. I am going to do my best to answer the way I see this as having gone down but keep in mind that I am not a scholar. I am just a guy who answers phones. Anyways, when anything happens people see it from their perspective. Some might see the whole thing others might have just showed up for the ending of it etc. I feel that this is exactly what happened here. Matthew was there for the first part where he saw what happened up to and including him hanging himself. Then he left. The part in Acts further proves my point. This scripture which the Holy Ghost by the mouth of David spake before concerning Judas happened before Jesus was even born. David lived a long time before Jesus. M...
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robtheman

Oct 13, 2008, 11:03 PM
I love it when people try to reconcile the text using logic that is not supported by the text. By saying that these two events of Judas were the same event on different time scales, you're adding details that aren't in the Bible. You're writing your own gospel. Bursting with your guts spilling all over the place was a common punishment for evil people in stories back then. Judas bursting was not a result of hanging for weeks. It was a borrowed idea from the demise of villains in other stories during that time period. You're also missing the other details of Matthew and Acts that disagree with each other.

Matthew says that Judas throws the thirty pieces of silver (his reward for betraying Jesus) at the elders. The elders then use th...
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robtheman

Oct 13, 2008, 11:20 PM
I would also like to point out that Mark and John didn't seem to think that Jesus was born of a virgin. Only Matthew and Luke make that claim. Weird. Seems like an important detail to leave out.
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robtheman

Oct 14, 2008, 8:20 PM
Bump.

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JesusSaves

Oct 15, 2008, 7:56 PM
You see an accident. Somebody else sees the same exact accident and I guarantee you you will get different views on it. Now let's say that both you and the other person did not get to write down what you saw for thrity years or so and how closely do you think the other persons account and yours will match?
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robtheman

Oct 16, 2008, 12:17 AM
JesusSaves said:
The Bible is factual and accurate. Nothing false about it. And if you do not want this conversation to continue then stop writing things that I have to respond to.


JesusSaves said:
You see an accident. Somebody else sees the same exact accident and I guarantee you you will get different views on it. Now let's say that both you and the other person did not get to write down what you saw for thrity years or so and how closely do you think the other persons account and yours will match?


So which is it? Is there nothing false about the Bible? Or is it stories remembered to the best of the person's ability after 30 years leading to inaccuracies and differen...
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metalsmokearsenal

Oct 13, 2008, 6:15 PM
real, most of it anyways... just sucks that the stories are retold and misinterpreted...
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kapwww

Oct 13, 2008, 6:21 PM
real but written by man so there is room for man's own interpretation or imagination.
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devilsmafia

Oct 13, 2008, 12:43 PM
Sin is a matter of opinion. What you might consider a sin someone else does not. So who decideds what is punishable? An imaginary supernatural being?
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DarkStar

Oct 13, 2008, 1:02 PM
You just proved the point. Human beings are imperfect. We make mistakes. We can't judge whether someone is good or bad. We have to be judged by something greater than ourselves.
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robtheman

Oct 13, 2008, 1:04 PM
Like aliens?
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DarkStar

Oct 13, 2008, 1:44 PM
Have you ever watched Stargate SG-1 or Atlantis?
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robtheman

Oct 13, 2008, 3:04 PM
No. I watched the Stargate movie though. I have a crush on Kurt Russell.
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DarkStar

Oct 13, 2008, 3:23 PM
Whats funny is that the in the tv series they expand more on aliens interfering with human culture and that many of the gods that humans worshipped were aliens pretending to be those gods. It was really a good tv show. They did a lot of homework on religion and how they can make it so different. They had an advance race be the norse gods. They had greek gods. They even had an alien appear as the devil. Its was a great show.
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devilsmafia

Oct 13, 2008, 1:06 PM
Ok then, explain to me what judges us?
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JesusSaves

Oct 13, 2008, 1:34 PM
God judges us.
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devilsmafia

Oct 13, 2008, 1:50 PM
What gives an imaginary supernatural being the right to judge me?
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JesusSaves

Oct 13, 2008, 4:56 PM
Well, I guess the fact that he created you.
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devilsmafia

Oct 13, 2008, 5:06 PM
but the thing is that you can't prove he created me or even exists.
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metalsmokearsenal

Oct 13, 2008, 6:28 PM
Well its called free will but you'd be thinking of fate..

You get the choice to choose between "good n' evil"- thats free will my friend!

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devilsmafia

Oct 13, 2008, 6:36 PM
There is no such thing as "good and evil". It's all a matter of personal opinion. I may do something that you think is evil but I see it as good (abortion for example). But someone else may do something that i think is evil and you might think it's good.

who defines what is good and evil? You and i might agree that a certain act is good, when others might see it as evil. Where is it written in stone what is evil and what is good?
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metalsmokearsenal

Oct 13, 2008, 7:56 PM
Iam not defining what good or evil is!

Iam just saying it exist..

And its your choice to choose one!
Yes, its that simple..
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kapwww

Oct 13, 2008, 5:24 PM
Sperm and egg create man. That much can be proven.
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DarkStar

Oct 13, 2008, 1:47 PM
The being that created us that is perfect. God.
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devilsmafia

Oct 13, 2008, 1:51 PM
Prove it
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DarkStar

Oct 13, 2008, 2:49 PM
The is a story about a Rabbi talking with an atheist. The atheist has to use the rest room and while he is there the Rabbi writes a beautiful poem. He then knocks over the ink on to the paper covering the paper a little bit. When the atheist comes back he asks where the poem came from. The Rabbi says the ink got knocked over and thats the result.

A beautiful poem can't just come out of nowhere. It has to be created by something that knows what it is doing. Our bodies, this world, social interaction is much to complicated to be created by random chance. Why are we the only intelligent species on this planet. Survival of the fittest. Only the stong survive. The last step of evolution is having intelligence. If its too cold we inven...
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devilsmafia

Oct 13, 2008, 3:06 PM
all species have evolved to the level of intelligence that they need to survive. Every species has thier own method of survival that works for them. Dogs, cat's, dolphins and thousands of other mammals have all been proven to have intelligence. Yes it's different than our intelligence but what use is solving a mathematical problem to a dog? Why does a dolphin need to know how to build a house? When will a monkey ever need to know where pakistan is on a map? These creatures don't need to have the same type of intelligence as us becuase they have evolved into something entirely different than us.
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DarkStar

Oct 13, 2008, 3:13 PM
Then why did we evolve into something that has intelligence?
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wizardofCroz

Oct 13, 2008, 3:16 PM
some would argue that we haven't. rape, war, murder, arson, just to name a few. I see a little flaw with "intelligence"
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DarkStar

Oct 13, 2008, 3:50 PM
Sistine Chapel, love, peace, friendship, art, science
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devilsmafia

Oct 13, 2008, 4:03 PM
a christian doesnt believe in science! That's the devils work ๐Ÿ˜ˆ
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JesusSaves

Oct 13, 2008, 5:51 PM
LOL...where did you get that idea? Of course we believe in science. We just know that science and all the good that it can do comes from God. Perverting it towards evil THAT is the devil. If we truly believed that science came from the devil as you claim then we would not use the things that science has created. Cars, hospitals, etc.
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devilsmafia

Oct 13, 2008, 5:56 PM
science conflicts your religious beliefs. Like for example; according to religious beliefs, the earth is only about 8000 years old, when science proves that the planet is about 14 billion years old. religion claims adam and eve were the first humans on this planet which is only 8000 years old. Science can prove that humans walked this earth over 100,000 years ago. Science is disproving "supposed" religious fact.
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JesusSaves

Oct 13, 2008, 6:04 PM
God is in control of time therefore he can make things age at such a rate as to become the age it needs to be to suit his purpose. That is where the all powerful comes in. If God did not give us this spark of life, if we were just some ball of rock floating through space. Where did we get life?
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devilsmafia

Oct 13, 2008, 6:24 PM
So god can control time and make us believe that planet is much older than it actualy is? What would be the point in that? Oh that's right, god has a plan and a purpose and none of us will every understand why. That's a very lame cop out answer.

Lol, and let me guess. You're one of those people that believe god planted dinosaur bones in the ground to test our faith that only man existed and ruled the planet and not dinosaurs before man?

That's pretty lame dude. You can't be that ignorant to fact.
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JesusSaves

Oct 13, 2008, 6:48 PM
What I am saying is it is akin to what they did with Dolly the sheep. They aged the clone so that it actually appeared older than it actually was. It might have looked like an adult sheep when by our measure of time it was younger. The same is true with the universe. In order for things to be right for us to be put on earth God had to age the universe at a much faster rate. How do you know there were dinosaurs? Those bones in the museum could have been made with plastics or ivory. With P.T. Barnum rubbing his hands together saying now they will come give us their money. And how come some of the bones turned to petroleum and some were around to put in museums? Seriously though I do believe that the dinosaurs were here before man since in the...
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wizardofCroz

Oct 14, 2008, 1:29 PM
its a little ironic that you're questioning the existence of dinosaurs and their remains when you worship a book that involves a man gathering up every species on the planet (2 of each) and getting in a boat, then getting eaten by a whale.

there are many good fairy tales out there, why not try some more other than the Bible? 3 little pigs, Little red riding hood. Humpty Dumpty is also a good one.
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JesusSaves

Oct 14, 2008, 11:14 PM
First off you have two different people in the Bible confused. It was Noah who built the Ark and Jonah who got swallowed by the whale. Secondly, you seem to be having as much trouble reading what I actually wrote as you do correctly reading the Bible. I even stated and I quote, "Seriously though I do believe that the dinosaurs were here before man since in the Bible itself that God created animals before man ever came about. But if he still had the world aging at an accelerated rate than they obviously died off before we were created."
At least with your last sentence you do show us yoor actual reading level.
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wizardofCroz

Oct 15, 2008, 8:55 AM
so since that happened to two different people, it must be true. You can't even spell the word "your" correctly, and you're talking about my reading level? I was just giving you a little more broad spectrum on fairy tales, since those are the types you tend to believe.
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llama

Oct 15, 2008, 8:58 AM
I'd be trying to correct the Son of God.
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wizardofCroz

Oct 15, 2008, 9:32 AM
its ok, i'll repent all my sins one minute before i die and i'll go straight to heaven. no worries
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cellboothmgr

Oct 15, 2008, 12:36 PM
im not sure why im even responding because i know someone will flame everything i say. however, if you read about Jesus being on the cross and such, one of the other 2 men that were being put to death, repented and all that and went to be with God. im not a Bible scholar or anything like that, im just stating what i have read. its not recommended of course, but hypothetically, that would work if you truly believed it in your heart that Jesus died for your sins and was your savior, even if it was 1 minute before you died
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JesusSaves

Oct 15, 2008, 6:24 PM
Since I spelled it correctly earlier in the sentence, I obviously do know how to spell it. However, since I have to be at work at 6 am I am usually in bed by 9pm. It was quite late for me. Since you want to get picky, it seems you do not seem to know that the first letter in a sentence is supposed to be capitalized.
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metalsmokearsenal

Oct 13, 2008, 6:54 PM
Well everything DOES happen for a reason..

There was a "reason" why your parents got together and decided to spawn your asss.
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DarkStar

Oct 13, 2008, 8:25 PM
Alright where in the world do you get that christians believe the world is only 8000 years old? I have never read that anywhere.

Let's put it this way. Are there any mentions of domesticated cats in the bible? No. Why? Because its not really that important. Does the bible mention dinosaurs? No. Why? Because for the purpose of the bible dinosaurs don't matter. Did dinosaurs exist? Yes. Simple.
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metalsmokearsenal

Oct 13, 2008, 6:52 PM
Life came from the 12th planet.. where it came before there? Who's to say!
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JesusSaves

Oct 13, 2008, 11:10 PM
God is to say. Read the book ๐Ÿ˜
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metalsmokearsenal

Oct 15, 2008, 6:45 PM
different story, jackass. ๐Ÿ˜•
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OfAMightDivine

Oct 13, 2008, 6:00 PM
Some very religious people refuse to use modern medicine and "pray" to help their sick. Needless to say majority of the people that do not receive treatment die.
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JesusSaves

Oct 13, 2008, 6:11 PM
Some not all. It reminds me of a joke. There was this very religious guy and pretty soon a flood comes so the guy has to climb onto his roof. He is just sitting there when a boat comes along and asks if he needs a ride to higher ground. The man answers no God will save me. Then the waters rise higher and he has to stand up. Another boat comes along and says he really should get in but his response again is no, God will save me. It keeps getting higher and finally a helicopter comes out and yells down to him asking if he needs help. He yells back No thank you because God will save me so the helicopter leaves. Pretty soon he drowns and finds himself in Heaven. He sees God and asks him God I trusted in you why did you not save me? God answers I...
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wizardofCroz

Oct 13, 2008, 4:20 PM
ok well, aside from the Sistine Chapel (which was pretty random in that line of ideas), other species exhibit those same qualities. Art is pretty ridiculous, anything that doesn't make sense to someone with half a brain is considered art. If peace involves smoking a fat joint then yeah i guess we have peace. science huh? isn't that the root of all evil?
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devilsmafia

Oct 13, 2008, 3:20 PM
we have a degree of intelligence that is different compared to other species. otherwise we're all the same. All creatures on this planet are driven by a single instinct. Survival. We just all do it differently from one another. You might see us as the most intelligent creature on the planet but that doesnt make it so since being a human being, you're biased on that aspect. we all are. The ony way to determine whether or not we truley are the most intelligent species on the planet is to have (i dare say this but oh well) aliens from another planet judge us from thier own observations.
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metalsmokearsenal

Oct 13, 2008, 7:00 PM
Your' smarter than a roach, why don't you go teach a roach how to SIT?
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kapwww

Oct 13, 2008, 8:23 PM
The Roach doesn't acknowledge any understanding of human forms of communication. That would make it difficult the reinforce through reward. I really don't know if anyone has figured out how to reward a roach for repeated behavior. Dogs on the other hand are pretty darn smart and learn to do what gets them treats. Watch out. Dogs may just take over the world. They are just biding their time.
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metalsmokearsenal

Oct 13, 2008, 8:49 PM
devilmafia- and his alien's judging us... ๐Ÿคฃ
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devilsmafia

Oct 15, 2008, 12:39 PM
the only reason i said aliens is because in order to determine which species is the most intelligent we would have to have an outside source observe our planet and all the species.

We are biased because we're human so we automatically think we're the most intelligent species.
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robtheman

Oct 13, 2008, 3:07 PM
1) You tried to prove a point by making up a story about nothing. Point failed.

2) No one in this thread has said that anything happened by random chance.

3) We are not the only intelligent species on the planet. Chimps can speak sign language, and they are also incredibly social animals.

4) There is no "last step" of evolution.
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DarkStar

Oct 13, 2008, 3:14 PM
1.) Can chimps make an air conditioning unit?

2.) prove it.
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robtheman

Oct 13, 2008, 3:18 PM
Chimps are not as intelligent as people. They could build an A/C unit if you trained them to do so, but they can't engineer one. That doesn't mean they're not intelligent.
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devilsmafia

Oct 13, 2008, 3:23 PM
can you make your own air conditioning unit?

Prove it.

and why does a chimp need to make an air conditioning unit? they live in the jungle or in the mountains.
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metalsmokearsenal

Oct 13, 2008, 7:05 PM
The same reason humans need to have a/c ! The life style..

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OfAMightDivine

Oct 13, 2008, 3:09 PM
So, if I took you to Antarctica and dropped you there in the middle of the continent, with nothing but the clothes on your back... you'd survive how long with all your intelligence?
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DarkStar

Oct 13, 2008, 3:16 PM
Apparently you don't understand. So much for my theory of intelligence.

Did you know that there are research stations in Antartica? People actually live there. Our bodies are not made to survive in those weather conditions but by using our intelligence we have conquered that weather.
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OfAMightDivine

Oct 13, 2008, 3:18 PM
I like how you avoid providing a real answer.



I didn't expect one anyways.


Thanks for at least humoring me.
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DarkStar

Oct 13, 2008, 8:16 PM
You want a real answer? I would survive indefinetly. I used to live in Alaska with the natives.
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devilsmafia

Oct 13, 2008, 3:38 PM
chimps have conquered thier environment as well. They are intelligent enough to live high up in the trees to avoid predators. They are intelligent enought to make "simple" tools for gathering food such as a stick to put inside an anthill to collect some tasty ants and other insects to munch on. they are intelligent enough to know that survival for thier species means makeing small communities. They are just as intelligent as we are. Just in a different way. Chimps don't need to make air conditioning units or nuclear power stations. They have no use for those things. So just becuase they dont make those things doesnt mean they are any less intelligent than us. They just evolved differently than us.
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metalsmokearsenal

Oct 13, 2008, 7:08 PM
Well we were luck enough to get a "jump" in evolution!
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devilsmafia

Oct 13, 2008, 7:11 PM
Hehe, perhaps. I guess we'll see what's in store for our evolution in the future.
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DarkStar

Oct 13, 2008, 8:18 PM
In a war who would win?
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kapwww

Oct 13, 2008, 8:26 PM
It might depend on the location of the war and the type of weapons allowed. War in trees with clubs? The monkeys. On the ground with tanks? Probably humans.
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DarkStar

Oct 14, 2008, 5:50 PM
So it depends on what restrictions you put on the war. If it was humans tied up in chains agains chimps who would win? If it were chimps in tanks who would win?

How about just us versus them. No rules at all who would win?
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kapwww

Oct 14, 2008, 8:28 PM
But going back to the original argument, everyone was talking about evolution and the fact that different beings have evolved into whatever they need to be to survive. My point is that monkeys are pretty damn good at swinging in trees and humans are better at driving tanks. Each has developed the skills needed for survival.

Of course humans would win in a free-for-all based on what we already have at our disposal.
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robtheman

Oct 14, 2008, 8:35 PM
You could teach a monkey to drive a tank. Let's even up the playing field and see what happens!
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DarkStar

Oct 15, 2008, 6:54 PM
We could nuke them.
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devilsmafia

Oct 15, 2008, 7:00 PM
Or if you are as intelligent as you claim humans are, you would realize that having a war with chimps is an idiotic idea because chimps have no need for war. Why would we even need to go to war with chimps? It's just a stupid unitelligent thing to even mention.
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llama

Oct 15, 2008, 7:06 PM
WTF?
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devilsmafia

Oct 15, 2008, 7:10 PM
of course they do, and they fight for mates just like we do. But chimps fighting over a couple of branches on a tree isn't the same as us going to war with iraq because bin laden bombed the twin towers. Chimps fighting over territory doesnt last for 7 years and millions of people don't die because one group of chimps wants to live in an area populated by another group. chimps don't go to war in the sense that we think makes up a war. They have no need for that type of behavior.
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devilsmafia

Oct 15, 2008, 12:27 PM
are you serious? That's the stupidest thing you've said so far. Would you actually go to war with Chimpanzees? How stupid would you look running into a community of chimps with an uzi strapped to ya. Chimps have no need for war.
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JesusSaves

Oct 13, 2008, 1:33 PM
Sin is not a matter of opinion. That is why we have the 10 Commandments. With all the Thou shall nots. Nothing imaginary about God which you will find out on Judgement Day.
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devilsmafia

Oct 13, 2008, 2:09 PM
LOLOLOLOLOLOL. O ye of so much false faith. This argument will go on forever.

You can't even prove his existence but you hang on to an outdated belief system like it's your only lifeline. Your beliefs make you weak because you feel that you cannot take care of yourself. You feel that you have to look to your made up god for all the answers. Grow a pair and deal with life. You can be a good person without religion. But beleivers are too ignorant and brainwashed to figure that out.
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JesusSaves

Oct 13, 2008, 4:49 PM
You can be a good person without religion. However being a good person will not get me into Heaven. How do you know that Leonardo da Vinci ever existed? Because you can go into the Musรƒฦ’ร‚ยฉe du Louvre in Paris, France and see the Mona Lisa that he created hanging there. Similarly you can look at the world God created and know that he exists. How else do you explain the world coming into being?
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devilsmafia

Oct 13, 2008, 5:08 PM
LOL, nice try on this argument. But we know da vinci existed because there were other people there to witness and document his being. Unlike the beginning of time, there was no one there to witness this and no one to document creationism, so therefore no proof is evident in that matter.
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JesusSaves

Oct 13, 2008, 5:31 PM
Ok, let's say you are right and God did not create us. So then, how did we come about? How did we get a spark of life? If we were at one time just a rock floating through space how did we get that spark of life that started the whole thing?
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devilsmafia

Oct 13, 2008, 5:45 PM
No one knows. And neither do you. Where did god come from? You can't be one of those people and say "he was always there". Always where? If he created everything, then there would have been nothing before he did his handy work. If there was nothing, then he could not have existed either. How could he have created himself and everything else out of nothingness. Even something as powerful as your god is supposed to be, he couldnt have just created himself without existing before hand now could he?
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JesusSaves

Oct 13, 2008, 6:19 PM
"No one knows" but I do know. I can look in my Bible and it tells me. As far as where did God come from I believe that God created the concept of time. Therfore he always was and always will be. I look at time like a big circle. Think of a calandar with all the months torn out and spread in a big circle around you. Now think of yourself standing in the middle of that circle. From your perspective you could see all that was going to happen in the coming year. and correct things early on to make things work out to your will. I believe the same principle is true with God only on a much grander scale.
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devilsmafia

Oct 13, 2008, 6:40 PM
but you didnt answer my question. I didnt ask you what it says in the bible. I know what the bible says and I didnt ask you about time either. nothing existed before he 'created' it where did he exist within nothingness?
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JesusSaves

Oct 13, 2008, 6:55 PM
I will be sure to ask him when I go to Heaven ๐Ÿ™‚
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silvabullit

Oct 13, 2008, 8:05 PM
the brainwashed **** spewed from you mouth would fill the state of California
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JesusSaves

Oct 13, 2008, 11:02 PM
I will pray for you.
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metalsmokearsenal

Oct 13, 2008, 7:15 PM
PLANET biotch.

"Crossing of the planets"

Thats your {symbol} of your cross... lol
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silvabullit

Oct 13, 2008, 8:08 PM
you bible thumpers should watch a movie called ziet geist (sp)???
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metalsmokearsenal

Oct 13, 2008, 9:10 PM
I don't trust the bible you must have me confused with someone who does!

Anyways if you knew about the 12th planet, then you'd know where you came from, nuff' said!
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JesusSaves

Oct 13, 2008, 11:08 PM
uh...gesundheit?
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JesusSaves

Oct 13, 2008, 11:04 PM
Ok let's say we came from another planet. So, how did life start on THAT planet?
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metalsmokearsenal

Oct 15, 2008, 8:54 PM
I just know we came from Nibiru...
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metalsmokearsenal

Oct 13, 2008, 7:12 PM
We do have prove.. from the Sumerians!
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Lateralus55

Oct 13, 2008, 5:10 PM
I want to hit you. How do I explain the world, I think God created it. I think God is forgiving. He is not going to send you to "Hell", if you don't believe he had a son. Christians are not the chosen ones. Get a life. People will get what they deserve, I'm sure God will see to that.
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metalsmokearsenal

Oct 13, 2008, 7:16 PM
I concur!
Let god sort'em out!
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cellboothmgr

Oct 15, 2008, 1:00 PM
so now in a way you are saying that God is real, if you think He should 'sortem out.' if God is real then you cant create him to be whatever it is that you think He should be. that is, as long as we are talking about the same God. i dont want to argue about anything because everyone has their own free will.
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robtheman

Oct 15, 2008, 1:04 PM
Believing in a god is not the same as believing in your god.
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metalsmokearsenal

Oct 15, 2008, 6:46 PM
I agree... ๐Ÿ˜
Thanks!
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OfAMightDivine

Oct 13, 2008, 5:14 PM
JesusSaves said:
You can be a good person without religion. However being a good person will not get me into Heaven.



So... you're doing one thing to gain another... for personal gain...


Selfish -

devoted to or caring only for oneself; concerned primarily with one's own interests, benefits, welfare, etc., regardless of others.


Some would contend that being selfish is a offshoot of Greed.

How would that get you into Heaven? I thought your god loves and forgives all?
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ralph_on_me

Oct 13, 2008, 2:27 PM
Your Bible lies. My ethics are not defined by your rules and my sins are not the same as yours. You may be a sinner, but I am not.
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JesusSaves

Oct 13, 2008, 4:42 PM
Come Judgement Day it won't matter what you think of my Bible or what ethics you held on earth. If you are not right with Jesus you will go to hell. Just like it does not matter if you are in a house that is on fire. You can deny it is on fire for as long as you want. You don't leave you will still get burned. You are right I am a sinner. But I am also forgiven.
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devilsmafia

Oct 13, 2008, 5:10 PM
You don't know that i'll get burned if I deny my house is on fire. Maybe i'll be in that one spot just by chance that's not affected by the fire.
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JesusSaves

Oct 13, 2008, 5:28 PM
For your sake I pray that that will be the case.
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ralph_on_me

Oct 13, 2008, 8:37 PM
Your imagry is very off. The biblical definition of Hell is to be separated from God. If I'm wrong, the worst case is I'll have an Earth free of self-rightous ********.

The kicker is I'm not wrong. Your own Bible taught me that. There will be no judgement day. One day you'll die. There will be a funeral, and the people that know you will be sad. You'll never see a Jesus, and you'll be done.
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JesusSaves

Oct 13, 2008, 11:01 PM
Not sure from what part of the Bible you feel you are getting your version of Hell from but here is what my Bible says. Matthew 5:22 But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to his brother, 'Raca, ' is answerable to the Sanhedrin. But anyone who says, 'You fool!' will be in danger of the FIRE of HELL.

Mark 9:43 If your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life maimed than with two hands to go into hell, where the fire never goes out.

Luke 16:23 In hell, where he was in TORMENT, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side.
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ralph_on_me

Oct 14, 2008, 9:20 AM
Here's a list of how the definition of Hell changes. I suggest you discern the difference between figurative and literal speech.

Sheol- 2 Macc 6:23; 1 En 51:3; 102:5; 103:7; Ezra 4:42; 7:32; 2 Bar. 42:8; 50:2.

Sheol evolves into Hades (and purgatory) - 1 En 22; 2 Bar 21:33; 30:1; 4 Ezra 4:35, 41; 7:32, 80, 85, 95, 101, 121; Ps Philo 15:5; 21:9; Isa 26:20; 1 Clem 50:3; Acts 2:27, 31.

Fire added to Hades - Sir 21:9-10; 1 En 63:10; Ant 18:14.

Hades equated with Hell - Apoc of Zeph; Rev 20:19; 1 En 51:3; 4 Ezra 4:42; 7:32; 2Bar. 42:8; 50:2; Ps-Philo 3:10; 33:3

Hades a fate for all - Test of Abra (Rec A) 8:9; 19:7.
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JesusSaves

Oct 14, 2008, 11:24 PM
I do believe it is literal and we are obviously working out of two separate books since the catholic bible has extra books stuck in there centuries after Jesus died. Secondly in my Protestant Bible there is no purgatory. I just love how the catholics just change things about the religion they do not like. Don't like the second commandment no problem let's just change it. Don't like the real Bible no problem let's just add things like purgatory so nobody has to go to hell. Don't want Jesus to cleanse you of your sins no problem we will just have the priest tell us to do a few hail marys so he can get back to the raping of little boys.
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robtheman

Oct 14, 2008, 11:27 PM
Without Catholicism, there would be no Christianity today.

Every branch of Christianity (or Gnosticism for that matter) had councils to vote which books were legitimate and which were heresy. One of them even rejected the entire Old Testament because they thought Jesus came to save everyone from the wrathful god of the Old Testament. The point is that your Bible is no more "holy" than the Catholic Bible you want to separate from.
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JesusSaves

Oct 15, 2008, 6:27 AM
Of course there would still be Christianity without Catholicism since Christianity derives not from Catholicism but from Jesus Christ himself. Paul and the rest were not Catholics but Christians. The reason I believe my the Protastant Bible to be the "better" Bible is due to the fact that all the authors of my Bible were around either before or during the time of Christ. They did not take books written well after by people that were not around during the time of Christ. Mine also does not allow the practice of others sin natured humans being able to forgive my sin. Mine did not change the second commandment.
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robtheman

Oct 15, 2008, 12:49 PM
You really need to do more research before you spout off stuff like this.

First of all, the disciples of Jesus were Jews, not Christians.

Secondly, there is no proof that Paul ever met Jesus. Paul just wandered around trying to convert people that were lost and had nothing better to do with their lives. Paul went to Athens to try to convert people and was laughed out of the city. Why? Because people had already been trying to figure the universe out for hundreds of years. When Paul brings the notion that you just have to believe something on faith, he gets ridiculed and leaves. That's why there are no letters to Athens, the home of free thinking and innovation.

The authors of your Bible could have been around during the life...
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CellularHolocaust

Oct 15, 2008, 1:02 PM
Dating biblical texts is interesting. If you really look at the subject with a keen skeptical eye you will find that there are no original docuemnts for your date of 60 AD. I think the date was conjectured through historical claims.
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robtheman

Oct 15, 2008, 1:08 PM
Yeah, you're right. The originals are long gone. But if you look at other records at the time, they mention these texts which gives historians a pretty good idea of when the started popping up.

The earliest known existing copy of any gospel is about a paragraph long and dated at around 125 CE. If you're going by existing documents, then the earliest you have is almost 100 years after Jesus would have died.

This brings up another interesting point in that nobody knows what the original documents actually said.
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CellularHolocaust

Oct 15, 2008, 1:14 PM
robtheman said:
Yeah, you're right. The originals are long gone. But if you look at other records at the time, they mention these texts which gives historians a pretty good idea of when the started popping up.


You'll have to point out exactly what 'other records' I should be looking at.
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robtheman

Oct 15, 2008, 1:21 PM
Ugh. Really? I'm not even sure I'd be able to tell you which book(s) I've read that listed that date, let alone the sources listed that report it. I tell you what though. I'll give you some authors that I've read and you can go through their books to find the information. Frankly, I'm too lazy to go back through them all to find it.

Bart Ehrman
Alistair McGrath
Rudolph Bultmann
Timothy Freke
Peter Gandy
Gunther Bornkamm
Gerd Theissen

It's in a couple of books by those one or more of those authors. Go check it out.
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CellularHolocaust

Oct 15, 2008, 1:22 PM
If you pinpoint which ones talks about historical relevancy I will read the work.
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robtheman

Oct 15, 2008, 1:28 PM
All of them? You're probably better off starting with Ehrman and McGrath. Bultmann, Bornkamm, and Theissen are hard to read. Ehrman's books are probably the most accessible. You could pick them up at your local Barnes and Noble.
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JesusSaves

Oct 15, 2008, 7:25 PM
Or you could just pick up a Bible. Before each book it tells you when it was written.

It will also tell you that despite his saying "The authors of your Bible could have been around during the life of Jesus, but they probably weren't." they were most definitely around. Matthew was a tax collector who later became Jesus's disciple. As evidenced by Matthew 10:3.
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robtheman

Oct 16, 2008, 12:24 AM
You're using circular logic.

You: The Bible is true.
Me: No it isn't. This is why.
You: You're wrong because of what the Bible says.

It's ludicrous. I admit that Mark was possibly written by someone that was alive when Jesus was alive (assuming Jesus existed and lived when you thought he did). There is absolutely no way that John was written by someone that walked around with Jesus. It's an impossibility. John was also a Gnostic gospel, used to support the idea that Jesus has to die to save mankind and bring them back to the land of their creator. Your own religion is using religious texts from other religions.
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JesusSaves

Oct 15, 2008, 5:41 PM
You should do a better job reading what I wrote. First off I do not mention the word disciples. I wrote that "Christianity derives not from Catholicism but from Jesus Christ himself." I am correct in that statement. Where did you think the name Christian came from? Look at Acts 11:26 which says "and when he found him, he brought him to Antioch. So for a whole year Barnabas and Saul met with the church and taught great numbers of people. The disciples were called Christians first at Antioch. " The followers of Christ were indeed called Christians. Not all Jews were Christians. And not all Christians were Jews.

Secondly, I never stated that Paul ever met Christ. I just say that Paul was a Christian and he was.

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robtheman

Oct 16, 2008, 12:29 AM
If God wrote the Bible, you'd think he would be able to keep his story straight. How did Judas die again? What did Pilate write on the cross? What did Jesus say when he was crucified? Go ahead. Look it up in each of the gospels. Let me know what you find. If the Bible can't even keep the story straight on those events, why should you believe any of the details? Isn't it possible (and much more likely) that the jobs listed for the writers of the gospels was added to give credibility to the gospels?
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CellularHolocaust

Oct 15, 2008, 1:05 PM
JesusSaves said:
Of course there would still be Christianity without Catholicism since Christianity derives not from Catholicism but from Jesus Christ himself.


Jesus was a Jew. You know, the whole chosen people, chosen messiah complex thing?



They did not take books written well after by people that were not around during the time of Christ.


Yet the Jews, literate by age 13, wrote about everything from alcohol trades, to livestock and how the town oaf made an ass of himself? But Jesus flys over the town and nobody says anything till decades, nay, centuries later?
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JesusSaves

Oct 15, 2008, 7:10 PM
I never said that Jesus was not a Jew. What I said was that the Christian religion comes from the following of Jesus Christ. Hence the word Christian. There were Jews that were not Christians and there were Christians that were not Jews.

"But Jesus flys over the town and nobody says anything till decades, nay, centuries later?"
I am not sure where you came up with that since quite a bit of the Bible was written before Jesus was even Born. Matthew, Mark, Luke, and Acts (you know the Gospels) were written around 60 A.D. not centuries after Jesus. John was written around 65 A.D. Romans was written around 57 A.D. 1st Corinthians was in 55 A.D. Galatians 50 A.D. and so on. Since Jesus was crucified 33 A.D. this was hardly any time at all. Fu...
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devilsmafia

Oct 15, 2008, 7:14 PM
if you think about it, how do actually know how long ago these stories were written? They didnt know how long a year was because they didnt know that the earth revolved around the sun 1 full time every 365 days. So how do you compare they're measurments of time with our own? how do you know romans was written around 57 A.D. Maybe it was written 500 years before that. Maybe it was written 300 after. Where do these official dates come from?
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metalsmokearsenal

Oct 15, 2008, 7:26 PM
Thats like asking " Hey what time did god start working?"

Man invented time..
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devilsmafia

Oct 15, 2008, 7:34 PM
I know we invented time. But 2000 years ago they didnt have the same measurements that we do today. They didnt know what a year was because they didnt know the earth revolved around the sun once every 356 days. So you can't accurately claim dates when these fables of the bible were actually written.
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metalsmokearsenal

Oct 15, 2008, 8:17 PM
did use time and dates..

Believe it or not! 1 revolution on the 12th planet equals appox. around 3,600 earth years..
So if one of the gods was say around 20 years their planet- that would make them around 72,000 years old.. earth years that is.

So "gods" did seem to live "forever".

That my friend is how the gods lived so long and were able to keep track of time..

Why else would humans be so obssesed with the stars and heaven!

As far as how the annunaki kept track of time beats me..
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JesusSaves

Oct 15, 2008, 7:37 PM
They come from my Bible. Before each book it says the year they were written. However, I do concede that point. Although I would have to believe that they were smart enough to break up the times that the sun went down to be the end of one day but I do see your point I mean after all the sun might not arise the next day due to storm or whatever but I seem to recall reading about early calenders and how accurate they were. I will research it and get back to you.
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ralph_on_me

Oct 15, 2008, 10:25 AM
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It's from the Torah. You know.. the book Christian's bastardized to make the Bible. How can you possibly criticize one group for taking things out of a religious text when that's exactly what the Bible has done? It wasn't written to be bound as it currently is. It's a collection of letters that a person decided should become a canon.
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JesusSaves

Oct 15, 2008, 6:12 PM
You forgot it is the inspired word of God. 2nd Timothy 3:16 All scripture is Given by God.
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metalsmokearsenal

Oct 15, 2008, 6:51 PM
for the bible..

So "something" did preceed the bible!
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devilsmafia

Oct 15, 2008, 6:58 PM
Yeah it was called Paganism and was the primary "religion" for just about every culture that existed for thousands of years before christianity was even a concept.
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metalsmokearsenal

Oct 15, 2008, 7:23 PM
it started after the ANNUNANKI landed on earth..
(Thats where the cross came from - Hence crossing of the 12th planet, crossing=The Cross)

Nefilim for the bible people..

And the "Assembly of the 12 Gods"

One god did rule - Anu - or Ra in Egypt, the sun-god.
He had 2 kids (as well as others) the main 2 were En.Lil and En.Ki one ruled the sky/water the other ruled earth...

Well like all children brothers have animosity towards each other..

So Anu divided the earth into 4 corners - giving each of the other gods a section, each god created their own religion and worshiping style directed towards themselves.. hence the different religions-

And that my friend precedes your Paganisim..that started afterwards..
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devilsmafia

Oct 15, 2008, 7:30 PM
so where is the evidence of all of this taking place?
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metalsmokearsenal

Oct 15, 2008, 7:36 PM
ENUMA ELISH THE EPIC OF CREATION - its a good read..

or you can pick up the book "The 12th planet" by Zecharia Sitchin.

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its a start... its alot better than the bible..
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devilsmafia

Oct 15, 2008, 7:43 PM
i just googled it. seems an interesting thing to read. I may brush up on my knowledge of this stuff. I still dont believe any of it but i like to read new stuff.
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metalsmokearsenal

Oct 15, 2008, 7:56 PM
its like the white rabbit hole.. once you read it you want more and more sources to back up the claims made in the books..
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JesusSaves

Oct 15, 2008, 7:42 PM
You mean did the people worship other things? Sure, while Moses was on the mountain getting the 10 commandments the people were down below making a golden calf to worship. That was just one of many things they worshipped. But, were they worshiping the one true God? Nope.
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metalsmokearsenal

Oct 15, 2008, 8:00 PM
worshipped the "gods" plural.

The reason each god got mad was cause each had their own cononer of the world to rule..

Would you want your people following another god from another part of the globe?

Thats where the false idols come from..
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JesusSaves

Oct 15, 2008, 8:10 PM
There is only one true God.
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metalsmokearsenal

Oct 15, 2008, 8:20 PM
But mankind has the wrong image of him/her/it..anywhoo.. I know something created all of this..

But your bible falls short on the true nature of mankind..

Sucks to be you!
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Crapbag

Oct 15, 2008, 8:42 PM
Define "True". Even God acknowledge other gods.
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metalsmokearsenal

Oct 15, 2008, 8:45 PM
Well he's probably talking about the "gods" that created me and you..

I'd be talking about the ONE- i.e. the one who created the "gods" and everything inbetween.
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robtheman

Oct 13, 2008, 12:08 PM
Jesus didn't live a perfect life. He broke God's law by not stoning the woman that practiced adultery.


Although, really, a conversation like this should be in the Lounge. Not Shop Talk.
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JesusSaves

Oct 13, 2008, 12:28 PM
The stoning part came from Moses not God's law. LOL...although I could just imagine him saying "He who is without sin cast the first stone." Then picking up a stone and throwing it at her.
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DarkStar

Oct 13, 2008, 1:04 PM
Obviously you haven't read the bible. In the book of Matthew Jesus said the rules have changed. There are two rules, love God and love your neighbor as yourself. He said the whole eye for an eye thing is over with.
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robtheman

Oct 13, 2008, 1:06 PM
It's weird because there were other people that came along and said, "I'm the son of God! The rules have changed!" Actually, I think there's a homeless guy next to where I work that screams this all the time. Nobody pays attention to him. I wonder why they paid attention to Jesus.

Oh, and I have read the Bible. I didn't think much of it. It's a shame it doesn't come in two ply.
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DarkStar

Oct 13, 2008, 1:43 PM
Maybe its because he could perform miracles.

Its interesting you are so much against people preaching to you yet you preach back. Live by your words.

Two ply? Wow. I understand you now. You are afraid of religion. The purpose of being a Christian is to be a better person. We will never be perfect, but we can always be better than what we were. You are scared of trying because you think you can't be better than you now and so you stay where you are and make fun of other people. I pity you.
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devilsmafia

Oct 13, 2008, 2:11 PM
Dude, we can be better people without religion. In fact if religion didnt exist at all the world would be a better place. Religion is biased and pretty much the root of the worlds problems. So much bullshit is carried out in the name of religion.
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DarkStar

Oct 13, 2008, 2:44 PM
so much bull is carried out in the name of money or power. But is carrying 20 dollars in your pocket make you evil?

It might be possible for us to be perfect without religion. But no one is.

There are plenty of people who don't have religion and are evil. Maybe its the lack of religion that causes bull****

Just because something bad is carried out in the name of something doesn't mean its true. If i kill someone as a sacrifice to you does that mean if you didn't exist the world would be better? No its not your fault that I did that. You wouldn't be the crazy one. Just because someone does something in the name of religion doesn't mean that religion is bad.

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devilsmafia

Oct 13, 2008, 2:52 PM
But those people who protest at funerals because our dead soldiers fight for a country that tolerates gays think they are right and you are wrong. And you think you are right and they are wrong. So who's right? That's the problem with the bible and religion. It can be interpreted differently by different groups of people. Since neither you or them can prove the existence of God and what his actual plan is, and what kind of things he wants us to beleive in there will always be bullshit based from religios beliefs.
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DarkStar

Oct 13, 2008, 3:03 PM
No God is very specific about what to believe and what to do. Believe in God and believe that God sent his son to die for our sins. He told us to love God and to love our neighbor as we love ourself.

Protesting at those funerals isn't loving your neighbor is it?

This religion stuff is very easy but people make it too complicated.
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devilsmafia

Oct 13, 2008, 3:12 PM
This is where you are wrong. We are all different. We all interpret information differently. How can you blame anyone other than you so called god who created everything for being and thinking different from one another.

Again, those people think they are right and that you are wrong. And again, since you can't prove god's existence you have no way of knowing which one of you is right or wrong.
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DarkStar

Oct 13, 2008, 3:19 PM
How can you interpret that the chair is red any differently that the chair is red. Its very specific.

1.) Love God

2.) Love your neighbor as you love yourself.

Very specific how can you interpret that differently?
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devilsmafia

Oct 13, 2008, 3:28 PM
Maybe i'm color blind. or maybe i'm blind since birth and I have no idea what red is.
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DarkStar

Oct 13, 2008, 8:19 PM
but does that change the fact that the chair is red?
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kapwww

Oct 13, 2008, 4:01 PM
Not that I really care to be a part of this whole thing that much, but what I can say about number 2 is this: What if I don't love myself? Then I don't have to show my neighbor any love. What if I love myself as I am and I am a drugged out whore? That then makes it ok to treat my neighbor like a drugged out whore. So we could all be right.
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OfAMightDivine

Oct 13, 2008, 3:22 PM
The only problem I have with your post, is that you say you cannot prove a god's existence. While this may be true for YOU, he/she may be able to prove to themselves that a god exists within themselves.


It boils down to interpretation. Perhaps he has felt the hand of a god on his life where you have not? We won't know as a whole until everyone is dead.



Either way I suppose.
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devilsmafia

Oct 13, 2008, 3:31 PM
For me it's not whether or not god does exist. It's religion in general that i have a problem. Because no one can prove what is right or wrong, what exists and what doesnt, everyone will have thier own beliefs and no one will ever agree on one thing. This is the cause of most of the problems in the world in my opinion.
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JesusSaves

Oct 13, 2008, 5:53 PM
If you read the Bible you would see it clearly says "The love of money is the root of all evil"
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silvabullit

Oct 13, 2008, 7:54 PM
the bible is the root of all evil ๐Ÿคฃ
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JesusSaves

Oct 13, 2008, 11:03 PM
How would you know? When have you ever read it?
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silvabullit

Oct 14, 2008, 4:59 PM
all 12 years i was forced to go to catholic schools ๐Ÿ™„
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JesusSaves

Oct 14, 2008, 11:04 PM
I feel for ya. LOL That is one religion I just do not agree with.
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metalsmokearsenal

Oct 13, 2008, 7:35 PM
The twisting of tounges.. ๐Ÿ˜Ž
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robtheman

Oct 13, 2008, 3:00 PM
Jesus was not the only savior of the time to perform miracles. Hell, he wasn't even the only one to turn water into wine or walk on water. One of them even ascended from the cross when the Romans were taunting him to do so, something that Jesus himself was unable to do.

All of that, of course, is if you believe the holy books that write the stories about those people. You believe one so you don't really have any good reason to reject the others. I reject them all because they're all nonsense.

I probably know more about the history of your religion than you do. Can you name the savior(s) that I was talking about in the first paragraph? Specifically the one that ascended from the cross? So no. I don't fear religion. I'm actually...
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devilsmafia

Oct 13, 2008, 3:14 PM
Nicely worded ๐Ÿ˜ˆ
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metalsmokearsenal

Oct 13, 2008, 7:40 PM
Jesus was based on another character from a time long ago..
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robtheman

Oct 13, 2008, 11:15 PM
Jesus was based on a lot of characters that preceded him.
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metalsmokearsenal

Oct 15, 2008, 6:53 PM
prototype.. ๐Ÿ˜
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devilsmafia

Oct 13, 2008, 1:08 PM
Why does he get to change "god's rules" but no one else can?
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DarkStar

Oct 13, 2008, 1:41 PM
I am not sure but it may have something to do with him actually being God.
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devilsmafia

Oct 13, 2008, 1:49 PM
jesus is god? i thought he was just his illigitimate son?
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DarkStar

Oct 13, 2008, 1:51 PM
nope. Its called the trinity.
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devilsmafia

Oct 13, 2008, 2:05 PM
The girl from the Matrix movies is god?
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DarkStar

Oct 13, 2008, 2:50 PM
no she is not nearly hot enough.
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devilsmafia

Oct 13, 2008, 2:56 PM
in tight black leather outfits, i'll pray to her everyday. ๐Ÿ˜ˆ
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DarkStar

Oct 13, 2008, 3:17 PM
Really? I was thinking more like Megan Fox.
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kapwww

Oct 13, 2008, 4:11 PM
Amen.
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The New ATnT Wireless

Oct 13, 2008, 3:32 PM
The Holy Trinity is the three personas of God. One God, Three Persons. Here is how I see the three persons:

God the Father: This is the mind of God, the part of God with all of His infinite knowledge and wisdom. This is the all-knowing God, the one who sees and knows everything in the cosmos.

God the Son: Jesus. Jesus is the physical embodiment of God. The body and blood of God is the bread of life and the cup of salvation, which was broken and shed on the cross for all humans. The body of God contains God the Father and God the Holy Spirit.

God the Holy Spirit: This is the precious and beautiful soul of God. This is the Sacred Heart of God, this is the source of all of God's unconditional unending love. The soul of God is the most ...
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CellularHolocaust

Oct 15, 2008, 1:35 PM
Here's how I see the trinity:

100% made up in such a manner that it doesn't even explain anything..might as well believe in nothing because that is your anthropomorphization.
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The New ATnT Wireless

Oct 13, 2008, 3:23 PM
And he suffered the worst possible pain ever imaginable: total separation from God. This was the thing Jesus feared most, which is why he prayed so fervently in the Garden of Gesthemane before his betrayal.

He took all the sins of the world-past, present, and future-upon himself so that all might be forgiven and have a chance to have a personal relationship with God.
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devilsmafia

Oct 13, 2008, 3:27 PM
or he was just a crazy claiming to be the king of the jews and they killed him for making such rediculous claims. How do you know he was the son of "god"? And don't say because it says so in the bible. That's such a lame answer. Prove to me that you know for a fact that the Jesus mentioned in the bible was really the immaculately concepted son of "God".
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The New ATnT Wireless

Oct 13, 2008, 3:30 PM
devilsmafia said:
or he was just a crazy claiming to be the king of the jews and they killed him for making such rediculous claims. How do you know he was the son of "god"? And don't say because it says so in the bible. That's such a lame answer. Prove to me that you know for a fact that the Jesus mentioned in the bible was really the immaculately concepted son of "God".


I don't use the Bible as proof, do I look like a fundy?! I use my heart and soul as proof as well as my relationship with the Divine. If that's not good enough, well, what can I say? (besides "who wants pizza?!")

If you don't share my view of Jesus, that's fine by me. I won't poo on you for not believing in Jesus, if you don't poo on...
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devilsmafia

Oct 13, 2008, 3:32 PM
๐Ÿ˜ pizza does sound good right now.
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The New ATnT Wireless

Oct 13, 2008, 3:34 PM
devilsmafia said:
๐Ÿ˜ pizza does sound good right now.


Doesn't it?! I could go for pepperoni, how about you? If we were in the same town, I'd bring you a slice.
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devilsmafia

Oct 13, 2008, 3:41 PM
pepperoni and sausage
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JesusSaves

Oct 13, 2008, 4:36 PM
* Matthew 8:29
"What do you want with us, Son of God?" they shouted. "Have you come here to torture us before the appointed time?"

Matthew 16:16
16.Simon Peter answered, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God."
17. Jesus replied, "Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by man, but by my Father in heaven.

I could keep going on.
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The New ATnT Wireless

Oct 13, 2008, 9:07 PM
JesusSaves said:
* Matthew 8:29
"What do you want with us, Son of God?" they shouted. "Have you come here to torture us before the appointed time?"

Matthew 16:16
16.Simon Peter answered, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God."
17. Jesus replied, "Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by man, but by my Father in heaven.

I could keep going on.


Don't. If it falls on deaf ears, then leave and wipe the dust off your shoes. Speak the truth about Jesus in love, and if you are turned away, leave peacefully without another word. For those who want to know Jesus, will come to Him.
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JesusSaves

Oct 13, 2008, 10:51 PM
He asked I answered.
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metalsmokearsenal

Oct 15, 2008, 6:57 PM
"hands the inkeeper 3 nails and says 'can you put me UP for the night?"

๐Ÿคฃ
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Crapbag

Oct 15, 2008, 8:51 PM
Jews don't even believe in a Hell. Jesus (a Jew) didn't believe in Hell. So, either Jesus wasn't the savior or you aren't worshiping his interpretation of the religion.
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silvabullit

Oct 13, 2008, 7:06 PM
there is no god. end of story. ๐Ÿ‘ฟ
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JesusSaves

Oct 13, 2008, 11:09 PM
Sure there is a God so it is actually the beginning of eternal life
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wizardofCroz

Oct 10, 2008, 2:27 PM
would you leave your computer at best buy if you got another one?
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JesusSaves

Oct 13, 2008, 10:43 AM
If they had some kind of recycling program sure...but I would make sure all of my private info was wiped off it first.
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Saint.Patrick

Oct 15, 2008, 11:04 AM
I don't have anything on my PC to hide and all personal files such as tax returns and family pictures I store remotely on CDRs.
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Saint.Patrick

Oct 17, 2008, 2:13 PM
Oh Holy is the night on which Jesus Christ was born. A cool name for an adult film would be Mary does The Three Wise Men!
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MildManneredClarkGrunion

Oct 10, 2008, 11:09 AM
You're in for such a shock when you start seeing phones in for repair.

Kids today are exhibitionists.
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BLEDSOE

Oct 10, 2008, 11:36 AM
i don't think they were shocked at what might be on the phone merely stating that the original poster should not use any info on the phone..it should all be destroyed...etc.

should the customer ever find out..they could sue..for breach of privacy.

I know the pics are on a phone but the phone is supposed to be master cleared prior to any other use....even employee use..
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overboost_t88

Oct 10, 2008, 12:03 PM
BLEDSOE said:
I know the pics are on a phone but the phone is supposed to be master cleared prior to any other use....even employee use..


so you guys master clear a phone everytime someone comes into your store? ๐Ÿ™„

face it people use there cameras for all kinds of sh*t who cares its not the first time and it sure wont be the last !

welcome to our world!
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BLEDSOE

Oct 10, 2008, 12:50 PM
please read the initial post...it was a phone that was left after an upgrade.. so yes we master clear all of those phones..
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Jayshmay

Oct 11, 2008, 4:02 AM
Isn't this the kind of stuff that memory cards are for, it's that simple, when you guys recieve a phone, just give the memory card to the person you got the phone from, if they're stupid enough to story "personal" pix on the phones internal memory, well then, stupid them.
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BLEDSOE

Oct 10, 2008, 11:34 AM
that is true though...in no way are you supposed to use customer information for personal use or gain. It goes against privacy laws..ie you are supposed to shread all paperwork with confidential info on it and should immediately master clear the phone...
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BigShowJB

Oct 14, 2008, 9:56 AM
I used to sell cars and one of the salesmen I worked with used to call his girlfriends to come in and "test drive" a car and they'd go about half a mile away and start bangin each other in the test drive car.

I busted them myself when I parked the car and they left a condom in it. I walked by his desk while she was still there and dropped it right between them...

Even Verizon's red is pale compared to how red their faces got as I sat down at my desk.

I left a voice mail that I wouldn't tell his wife as long as he didn't leave that sh!t in a car again to get himself caught.

I got thanked with three split sales the next month for about $1500 comission.
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Saint.Patrick

Oct 14, 2008, 5:36 PM
Infidelity was not the context of kickmeoffphonescoop's initial posting even though I have to admit I find the scenario you mentioned BigShowJB as a bit humorous. As I've replied here in this thread at numerous places, no employee should take the liberty of a customer's multimedia files for their own personal pleasure. I don't know of any wireless carrier that would condone kickmeoffphonescoop's actions of this or using illegal drugs while at work. Unless there is a valid medical prescription on file for marijuana, charges should be filed against kickmeoffphonescoop. People like kickmeoffphonescoop do not have any business what so ever working in a position with direct or indirect public contact.
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kapwww

Oct 14, 2008, 5:53 PM
blah blah blah...that's all I hear.
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wizardofCroz

Oct 15, 2008, 4:42 PM
๐Ÿ™‚ go smoke a fatty yourself, it might chill you out a little
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ACSlater

Oct 10, 2008, 2:34 PM
I may be wrong, but unless the information is used for personal gain or, in the case of child pr0n, lewd activities then the privacy act hasn't been violated.

And while it is in our and the customers best interest, it is not our responsibility to perform the master clear. We are only supposed to inform the customer that they should delete any information that they do not want accessed on the phone. For liability reasons (like people that may one day get their company in trouble for child porn) most companies do maintain that the devices should be cleared before being re-sold, returned to the warehouse, or discarded.

But let's face it. ALMOST all of us have had a customer that returned a phone that we went through to see what kind of pi...
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lowtechlou

Oct 10, 2008, 3:11 PM
if i see any child porn in any phone the owner of the fone will go to jail. I for one am willing to lose my job to make sure a pedophile will go to jail. if I had my way i would have a pedophile holocaust.
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devilsmafia

Oct 10, 2008, 3:41 PM
If a phone is discarded by the owner(or in this case left for the rep to discard in any matter) the information (pictures) then does become public property. It's the same thing as a cop looking through your garbage to find evidence against your for some crime. Once the device has exchanged hands willingly by the original owner, the new "owner" has the right to do almost whatever he wants with the information on it. It's not up to us to make sure a phone is master cleared. Sure it's the polite and customer friendly thing to do, but it's really up to the customer to make sure there is no information that they don't want seen by anyone. She gave that phone to the rep, so he has the right to do whatever he feels like doing whether we feel it's i...
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kickmeoffphonescoop

Oct 10, 2008, 3:44 PM
She was 19. Teenage doesn't mean "underage".
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Saint.Patrick

Oct 15, 2008, 6:28 PM
Even though she was the average age of a USMC during the Vietnam War, you had no right to use any of the multimedia files that were on the handset for your own twisted and perverse pleasure.
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kapwww

Oct 16, 2008, 10:51 PM
Aside from the fact that marines like nailing 19 year old girls, what does the USMC and Vietnam have to do with the original post?
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Saint.Patrick

Oct 17, 2008, 4:15 PM
Kickmeoffphonescoop was just clarifying fact that even though she was a teenager, the girl was 19 i.e. not a minor. 19 reminded me of the 1980's one hit wonder by the same name by Paul Hardcastle.

In 1965 Vietnam seemed like just another foreign war,
but it wasn't.
It was different in many ways, as so were those that did the fighting.
In World War II the average age of the combat soldier was 26...
In Vietnam he was 19.
In inininininin Vietnam he was 19.

(TV announcer's voice)
The shooting and fighting of the past two weeks continued today
25 miles west of Saigon
I really wasn't sure what was going on (Vet's Voice)

Nininini Nineteen, 19, Ni-nineteen 19
19,19,19,19

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Saint.Patrick

Oct 17, 2008, 7:09 PM
I wish this was one of the song played in our 80's rotation over Musak.
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kickmeoffphonescoop

Oct 10, 2008, 3:43 PM
Your mom gets naked and takes pictures of herself on her camera phone.

I've seen videos of 45-50 year old couples doing the nasty on cell phones.

I've seen young'ns naked. (Delete those, pretend you don't see 'em.)

If she got fake jubblies, then you know she's taken some pictures of them.


If you think you're somehow "above" all this, you're f**kin' trippin.
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tmob08

Oct 10, 2008, 3:51 PM
it always makes me laugh when "creepy old man" comes in to the store. you know the kind. has most teeth missing, greasy long hair, probably a MO. and on his phone is pictures of naked super models...i mean i get grossed out to but it makes me laugh
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BLEDSOE

Oct 10, 2008, 5:27 PM
at least they are naked super models and not himself.. EWWWWWWW!!! ๐Ÿ˜ณ
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Saint.Patrick

Oct 10, 2008, 9:04 PM
Let me paraphrase words of The Rock. Can you hear what Saint.Patrick is saying? It doesn't matter if the teenage girl was 19. It doesn't matter if a mother takes self portraits of herself in the proverbial birthday suit. It doesn't matter if their is a homemade amateur adult video made by a 45-50 year old couple. It doesn't matter if a woman's jubblies are implants or the real deal. What does matter kickmeoffphonescoop, which I believe is the point you're missing, is the fact you do not have any right to take anyone's pictures off a wireless device that your company purchases from a customer for your own twisted and misguided pleasure. If you work for Sprint and I discover who you are, I can guarantee you this kickmeoff phonescoop. I will pe...
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DarkStar

Oct 11, 2008, 4:12 PM
But the carrier didn't purchase the phone from the customer. The customer disgarded the phone. Meaning anything on the phone is now public and not private.
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Ghosthendrikson

Oct 11, 2008, 4:59 PM
Saint.Patrick said:
Let me paraphrase words of The Rock. Can you hear what Saint.Patrick is saying? It doesn't matter if the teenage girl was 19. It doesn't matter if a mother takes self portraits of herself in the proverbial birthday suit. It doesn't matter if their is a homemade amateur adult video made by a 45-50 year old couple. It doesn't matter if a woman's jubblies are implants or the real deal. What does matter kickmeoffphonescoop, which I believe is the point you're missing, is the fact you do not have any right to take anyone's pictures off a wireless device that your company purchases from a customer for your own twisted and misguided pleasure. If you work for Sprint and I discover who you are, I can guarantee
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kapwww

Oct 11, 2008, 5:34 PM
Reach out. Hehe. That phrase is usually only used by corporate puppets. Quick survey. How many people aside from corporate butt kissers actually use that phrase? If I say "I'm going to reach out to my customer" it makes it sound like my customer is on the verge of real trouble (drug abuse, suicide, etc...the kind of stuff a shrink should handle) and I am their only savior. Give me a break... ๐Ÿคจ
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llama

Oct 11, 2008, 6:08 PM
Saint.Patrick is the latest version of "The Poster formerly Known as RayCarroll"
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kapwww

Oct 11, 2008, 8:18 PM
Oh. That makes much more sense. ๐Ÿ‘€
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llama

Oct 11, 2008, 8:19 PM
same style, same "meow-ness"...
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kapwww

Oct 11, 2008, 8:44 PM
The whole Sprint fanboy attitude thing as well. Fun fun.
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Saint.Patrick

Oct 11, 2008, 11:33 PM
I'd like to think I'm a bit above that guy by a mile at least. Yeah, it appears we're both Bible Thumpers and Sprint Fanboys, but the truth is I'm not. First, the whole "I rebuke you Satan" was meant to be a bit satire of the whole Exorcist genre which I see didn't have the effect as I hoped. I guess a ๐Ÿคฃ ๐Ÿ˜Ž should have been the tag of the post. Second, I'm a wireless mercenary for hire. Currently Sprint is paying the best. If another wireless opportunity comes around, so long Black & Yellow. Just remember, corporations aren't loyal nor ethical to their employees. Look at Enron. I do read the Bible and if you do too, you just might learn a thing or two. Jesus once said, "Let he who hath no sin cast thee first stone."
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beeferjay

Oct 12, 2008, 11:14 AM
Saint.Patrick said:
"Let he who hath no sin cast thee first stone."


jesus i know, paul i know, but who are you?
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JesusSaves

Oct 13, 2008, 11:31 AM
Saint Patrick was a guy kidnapped, taken to a different country, forced into slavery, escaped but then still went back to the country that had wronged him and preached the Word of God and saved alot of people.
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beeferjay

Oct 13, 2008, 12:18 PM
youre missing the biblical reference
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JesusSaves

Oct 13, 2008, 4:54 PM
I apologize I thought you really did not know who St. Patrick was.
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silvabullit

Oct 13, 2008, 7:56 PM
st. pat is an excuse to drink green beer and get drunker than a skunk
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llama

Oct 13, 2008, 3:07 AM
sin in a post denying the truth.
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llama

Oct 13, 2008, 3:11 AM
Saint.Patrick said:
Yes, I am who most people think I am...I'm back....


https://www.phonescoop.com/carriers/forum.php?fm=m&f ... »
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The New ATnT Wireless

Oct 13, 2008, 3:34 PM
Saint.Patrick said:
I'd like to think I'm a bit above that guy by a mile at least. Yeah, it appears we're both Bible Thumpers and Sprint Fanboys, but the truth is I'm not. First, the whole "I rebuke you Satan" was meant to be a bit satire of the whole Exorcist genre which I see didn't have the effect as I hoped. I guess a ๐Ÿคฃ ๐Ÿ˜Ž should have been the tag of the post. Second, I'm a wireless mercenary for hire. Currently Sprint is paying the best. If another wireless opportunity comes around, so long Black & Yellow. Just remember, corporations aren't loyal nor ethical to their employees. Look at Enron. I do read the Bible and if you do too, you just might learn a thing or two. Jesus once said, "Let he who hath no sin cas
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The New ATnT Wireless

Oct 18, 2008, 10:19 AM
Saint.Patrick said:
I'd like to think I'm a bit above that guy by a mile at least. Yeah, it appears we're both Bible Thumpers and Sprint Fanboys, but the truth is I'm not. First, the whole "I rebuke you Satan" was meant to be a bit satire of the whole Exorcist genre which I see didn't have the effect as I hoped. I guess a ๐Ÿคฃ ๐Ÿ˜Ž should have been the tag of the post. Second, I'm a wireless mercenary for hire. Currently Sprint is paying the best. If another wireless opportunity comes around, so long Black & Yellow. Just remember, corporations aren't loyal nor ethical to their employees. Look at Enron. I do read the Bible and if you do too, you just might learn a thing or two. Jesus once said, "Let he who hath no sin cas
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The New ATnT Wireless

Oct 13, 2008, 3:24 PM
I was wondering when that Ray guy would come back again.
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The New ATnT Wireless

Oct 13, 2008, 3:27 PM
Give it a rest, doll.
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stinkercole

Oct 10, 2008, 9:09 PM
Pretty sure, correct me if i'm wrong kickmeoffofphonescoop, was just joking, yall need to pop a midol!
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Saint.Patrick

Oct 10, 2008, 9:18 PM
In the name of Jesus Christ, I rebuke you Satan and all your lies.

In the name of Jesus Christ, I rebuke you Satan and all your lies.

In the name of Jesus Christ, I rebuke you Satan and all your lies.

In the name of The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit, I command you too leave the mind, body and soul of kickmefromphonescoop and return to the bowels of Hell!

Amen.
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ghost_hunter

Oct 11, 2008, 7:20 AM
AND IF I WANTED TO HEAR ,READ ANYTHING ABOUT EFFING RELIGION I WILL GO THE FU(K TO A CHURCH, SIT DOWN AND LISTEN AND READ.YOUR A HOLIER THAN THOU FU(CKIN BIBLE THUMPER SAINT.PATRIC THAT NEEDS TO KEEP THE AMENS AND PRAYINGS IN THE GOD FOR SAKEN CHRUCHES WHERE THEY BELONG.IF SOME ONE WANTS TO LOOK ATA NASTY PCITURE , THEN THEY WILL LOOK AT A NASTY PICTURE , IF SOME ONE WANTS TO STEAL , THEN THAT SOME ONE WILL STEAL, U OR NO ONE ELSE IN THIS FU(KING WORLD HAS THE RIGHT TO JUDGE ANY ONE ......GO BACK TO THE PEOPLE THAT YOU BELONG WITH AND GET THE FU(K OFF OF PHONE SCOOP WITH THAT RELIGION ARSE CRAP THAT YOUR TYPING ...............GET A LIFE !!!!!!!!!!!



JEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZ
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Sprintzorz

Oct 11, 2008, 8:39 AM
+1 you dont see anyone else on here preaching about how his/her god is awesome and saves, or me teling you that your gods don't exist (because i don't believe they do) i hate that sh*t so much, noone cares. ๐Ÿคฃ
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WhoDey

Oct 11, 2008, 10:21 AM
Sprintzorz said:
+1 you dont see anyone else on here preaching about how his/her god is awesome and saves, or me teling you that your gods don't exist (because i don't believe they do) i hate that sh*t so much, noone cares. ๐Ÿคฃ


There is only one god.
May the FSM bless you.
All hail his noodly appendages, and glory unto the holiest of meatballs.

Ramen
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llama

Oct 11, 2008, 10:23 AM
Ramen-da comes from...
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Sprintzorz

Oct 11, 2008, 1:34 PM
๐Ÿคฃ wow i about lost it there, im glad someone else on here is in the know about FSM. that def just made my day lol. my co-worker however is still very confused by it ๐Ÿ˜‰
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WhoDey

Oct 12, 2008, 10:34 AM
Mayest thou toucheth thine coworker with the divine words of his holy marinara.

Ramen
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DarkStar

Oct 13, 2008, 1:28 PM
I think you have to look at it as if you were in his shoes. Don't get me wrong I would not go door to door and say Jesus saves. I don't like pushing religion on anyone I think its wrong. I might bring it up in casual conversation with a friend and offer to take them to church and if they say no then they say no and let it be.

But lets look at it from his point of view for a second. Lets say for a moment that his religion is the one true religion. He knows he is going to heaven and he wants you to have the same opportunity.

I think its interesting to think like that. I may be a little cold but if you want to go to he LL then its your choice not mine. But I don't know if you are going there or not. Its not up to me. I don't kno...
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JesusSaves

Oct 13, 2008, 5:26 PM
Also we are commanded by Jesus to preach to people and to tell them that he is the one whom God chose to be the judge of the living and the dead. Acts 10:42-43
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CBR600

Oct 11, 2008, 3:30 PM
i wish you guys could hear me clappiing right now. religion+forums=stupid
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Saint.Patrick

Oct 13, 2008, 2:14 PM
Sad to see someone here doesn't understand how offensive all capital letting in a post is.
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devilsmafia

Oct 13, 2008, 2:24 PM
WHY ARE PEOPLE SUCH PUSSIES ABOUT CAPITAL LETTERING? BIG F'N DEAL. THEY ARE JUST BIGGER LETTERS. ARE YOU REALLY THAT OFFENDED WHEN YOU SEE BIGGER LETTERS? WHAT KIND OF DUMB MENTALITY IS THAT?
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cellularconnection

Oct 13, 2008, 4:11 PM
Yes I am offended. I represent lower-case letters everywhere. I am here to serve you a notice that they will be suing you and every other on their behalf. I also have an associate from the keyboard manufacturers who would like to have a word with you.
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kapwww

Oct 13, 2008, 4:20 PM
And that is what is wrong with this world (and this industry for that matter) is the fact that anyone can file suit for anything. Hurt yourself because you're an Rtard? File that lawsuit! You'll probably win because the judges want more power than they actually have and they want to have some sort of effect on the evil businesses of the world.
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cellularconnection

Oct 13, 2008, 4:21 PM
Sarcasm Detection, you has it.
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wizardofCroz

Oct 13, 2008, 4:22 PM
๐Ÿคฃ ARE YOU SERIOUS??
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Saint.Patrick

Oct 13, 2008, 4:45 PM
Serious as cancer, rhythm was a dancer.
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firefightersgirl6

Oct 13, 2008, 2:31 PM
you know whats better...when someone you actually know and see outside of work comes in and swaps their phone and leaves pictures of him and his girlfriend on there. hello! the machine doesnt erase the pictures off phone! Worst one though...a customer had his phone for 3 DAYS when he came to do a 30 day swap he left the VIDEO he made of him and his wife. Wouldn't have been a problem if they were an attractive couple
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Saint.Patrick

Oct 13, 2008, 4:50 PM
The simple solution people is to just do a master reset on the phone which pretty much will restore, at least on most Sprint devices, to OEM settings. Employees who use the multimedia of customers without the customer's implicit consent are the one who cast a grim shadow over true sales professionals. Kickmeoffphonescoop not only violated customer privacy, but also admits to using illicit drugs while at work.
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kapwww

Oct 13, 2008, 5:17 PM
Want a cookie mr. morality police? Want everyone on the forum to band together, send out some money (that we would, unfortunately, have to take from the church donation amount), and buy you a medal? Is that it? I would be more than happy to get you a GD medal if that will just shut you the eff up.
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Saint.Patrick

Oct 13, 2008, 5:24 PM
It isn't about morality. I'm just showing how corrupt of an employee that kickmeoffphonescoop is for his actions of not only blatantly violating company protocol by using a customer's multimedia for an ugprade, but for engaging in criminal activity while on the job by toking up on a phatty as well as doing crank. By the way, warm Dutch apple pie with a scoop of real vanilla bean ice cream is my favorite, not cookies. Nice try though...
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devilsmafia

Oct 13, 2008, 7:12 PM
mmmmmmmm dutch apple pie is the shiz!
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BigShowJB

Oct 15, 2008, 11:50 AM
chill out and relax.

If he's gonna get fired for his actions let him. It's not anything you can do anything about. so STFU, we're tired of hearing about it!!!! ๐Ÿ‘ฟ
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Saint.Patrick

Oct 15, 2008, 6:42 PM
Andare attrarre off un asino!
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ACSlater

Oct 15, 2008, 12:25 PM
Yea I did. They were really dirty too. Your daughter is skank and now I have visual proof.

Not only that but I took them in my store, while I was on the clock, and I did her on the counter that we sell phones on.

And I snorted a bunch of coke off of her, but some of it fell on the counter and mixed with my heroin so I may have melted the coke in with my heroin before I shot up. I hope that doesn't hurt me.

And I was drunk and completely baked. But she wanted a free phone without a contract, and I assumed that in these trying economic times that nobody should be beyond bartering.

Besides, the other customers didn't seem to mind.

๐Ÿ˜ˆ
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lxav06

Oct 15, 2008, 1:29 PM
๐Ÿคฃ ๐Ÿคฃ
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Saint.Patrick

Oct 15, 2008, 3:05 PM
Classic. All we need now is some blind midgets and deaf dwarves to He-Man biotch slap you...
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LV2DETJ

Oct 15, 2008, 7:39 PM
thread title says it all ๐Ÿคฃ
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JimmyTaliban

Oct 16, 2008, 3:15 PM
Your work sounds familiar. Did I train you by chance?
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cellphoneslinger

Oct 18, 2008, 4:15 PM
SO DOES ANYBODY HAVE THESE PICS!!!
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Saint.Patrick

Oct 19, 2008, 9:15 AM
Those who do cellphoneslinger are in violation of their company's customer privacy policies and may very well be in possession of child pornography.
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CellularHolocaust

Oct 19, 2008, 11:02 AM
Nothing kewl happens here.
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cellphoneslinger

Oct 20, 2008, 9:08 AM
Shes 19 child pornography does not apply!!!!!!
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robtheman

Oct 20, 2008, 12:37 PM
Which just makes it that much more awesome.
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Michaelhtc

Dec 9, 2010, 2:28 PM
There is far too much bitching going on in this thread. You can't sway someone with your rant, it's pointless to even try.
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He who Lurks

Dec 9, 2010, 3:50 PM
You are timely!
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