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Regardless of how you intended it, the message in question could have been interpreted as a personal attack. It's our policy to err on the side of caution when the intent of a message is ambiguous.
Your website software has the ability to "guest" an account. Your "explanation" that someone could then register this name and use it is worthless. If someone like Azeron or I wish to be gone have the sack to honor that request. If you don't get why we want to leave that is your own ...
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Our policy on closing accounts is posted and clear. I'm happy to answer questions about it. I honestly don't understand what you mean about "guesting" an account or why your think our explanation is worthless.
If you no longer wish to participate, that's certainly up to you. Just stop posting. It's as simple as that.
And yes, Rich, you did condone his response. If you gave a damn about my concerns you would have addressed them privately. You don't, and I have never come to expect you would. But to do so in the fashion you did condoned his behavior. Whether or not you "allow" threads to go off topic is beside the point. I asked for it to stay to the specific topic, he responded like a child and you backed him up publicly. Your fly by night random mod attempts are a joke.
And it won't, as a matter of policy. I think it's important that people are held accountable for what they say here, and that includes messages staying under the same username they were originally posted under.
Our forum system works in a unique way, and that's on purpose. Our moderation policies are also different from some other sites. That's also on purpose. You can call it "wrong" if you want, but that's your opinion. I'm proud of most of the ways our site is different, in its technical operation, our policies, and our enforcement of those policies.
There's no need for you to fling insults at me. If your insults had been directed at anyone else, ...
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Grow a thicker skin Rich. If you think those are "insults" guess again. I am a 7 year user commenting about how you run the site and how I believe you have allowed your system to run amuck which has driven away contributors.
Heaven forbid you critique the owner.
Your fly by night random mod attempts are a joke.
Case in point. The carrier forums have not had a single post today. The only post made on the top forum, Verizon, made in the last few days is mine.
So, yes, your random attempts to moderate ARE indeed laughable, and a joke. If you spent any time at all looking through some of these threads over the years you would have noticed the decline and could have put a stop to it.
And before you go there, yes, you cannot read every thread. But it was becoming so rampant it was ridiculous. Simply wait for a carrier to post quarterly results and wait for the insults to fly. That is like shooting fish in a barr...
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As a seven year user, you know best that Rich does a darn fine job of running this place. Your borderline ad hominems are unnecessary and of poor taste. In addition, this is a rather private issue. For the sake of all of us, will you consider at least exchanging PM's with Rich, if not just drop the issue entirely?
Have a day, my friend.
#2 - The traffic in that area is down drasticly from where it was in recent years. I submit it is due to him allowing the users to run amuck. Insults of others were readily found and it would have taken very little time for him to find it IF he actually considered it an issue. I submit he did not really care. I dealt with Captainplooky insulting me for years and Rich, et all wouldnt do **** about it.
#3 - RICH chose to address my concerns publicly. He opened the door.
So yeah, maybe you should butt out since you don't know all the facts.
How do you mod that though? Add a TOU "no carrier brovado"?
I agree, come quarterly numbers time I don't even bother. But look at how even that is dead now. No activity AT ALL today and Verizon released their numbers.
Lounge was always hands down the most active forum from day one at any rate. I suppose it could be a sign that blocked domains isn't the reason for the decline in posting but you would have to get pretty in depth to now for sure. Like, I'm not sure what the various policies are in vendor outlets, callcenters etc. If certain centers have different rules. Like maybe a tech support group has more access than customer care would.
I don't know and I'm not sure I care either. I was just throwing it out there that over the years I've seen more than one post from users that their center was losing access to the forums.
I have been on here since 2004. The lounge was not the most active back in the day. There was a movement to moderate not specific carrier topics to the lounge. It was, in my opinion, a good move because it kept off topic (mindless) posts away from what Rich considered the more important information areas of his site.
This move succeeded and the lounge as you know it has grown. The carrier forums did not die, but became much more useful to customers asking questions and debate about carrier related topics.
Over the years the fanboys got worse and worse and the cross forum spam and attacks became overwhelming to many constributors. When we would come in and post people attacked the information rather than opening their ey...
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texaswireless said:
Over the years the fanboys got worse and worse and the cross forum spam and attacks became overwhelming to many constributors. When we would come in and post people attacked the information rather than opening their eyes to the fact that (gasp) someone might know something they did not. Excellent case was the post by the user isellthe****outofphones. He posted he could help AT&T users get unlimited data. It was a slaughter of the original poster. That was typical of many contributors which is why they left.
This is something else I agree with you on.
There was also the constant, I left (so and so) because they suck. Or (So and So) sucks, why are they robbing me. Generally "new" u...
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Jiangshu said:
There was also the constant, I left (so and so) because they suck. Or (So and So) sucks, why are they robbing me. Generally "new" users who were really just trolling the forum. How do you mod it? What is a legit complaint and what constitutes a spam troll?
There is a certain other phone website that is pretty popular that i rarely frequent just because of this reason. It seems like its either Fanboi's or new users either trying to work the system or complain about a change, regardless what the change is.
I'm just more inclined to believe it's centers/vendors cracking down on 'time theft' rather than any real response to the quality of posters. Sure you lose some but there is always an influx of new users. I don't see the same flow off new users anymore. Mostly just same posters with different handles after a ban or whatever.
I'm out of my domain with verizon and AT&T forums though (even though you'll find some of my first posts on At&t forums I believe) since I don't post there anymore and haven't for years. I'll take you're word for it that ...
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texaswireless said:
So, before you cry fowl
I don't understand what birds have to do with any of this.
texaswireless said:
Heaven forbid you critique the owner.
Yeah don't do that. And don't "insult" any of his personal friends either. And don't do anything that could be misconstrued as an insult. And certainly don't be correct and point it out to him. These things will get you emails and banned. π€¨
planethulk said:
Yeah don't do that. And don't "insult" any of his personal friends either. And don't do anything that could be misconstrued as an insult. And certainly don't be correct and point it out to him. These things will get you emails and banned. π€¨
Surely you don't think all that is true π²
HawkeyeOC said:
Surely you don't think all that is true π²
Just the part where you are trolling me...
planethulk said:
Just the part where you are trolling me...
I am going to miss Azeron. He was my friend π’
Oh well. Personally, I could care less. He accused me of being diamondpro multiple times with zero evidence. He tended to be pretty reactionary sometimes, and he would always take everything so seriously. Case in point: The original post in this thread
pickles said:
Who is going to dish out pimp slaps now? Who will degrade n00bs with sarcasm and back-handed compliments?
I inherited that unwillingly π Do I have to request a ban to shake off the "moral police" as it's been called roll I got? π€£
Funny...I actually miss DiamondPro too. A lot of people seem to π€£ He does follow a predictable pattern as far as the timing of his appearences...he will be back to set us all straight π€£
pickles said:
DiamondPro is the best unintentional troll since Jayshmay
I recently suggested to Sprints top management that they hire him for some commercial work as a spokesperson, but either Dan Hess has too much influence or they are holding out for the T-Mobile girl which I assume might be available soon.
ok, I made that all up π€£