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The SprintNextel Hybrid phones

jrfdsf

Nov 23, 2006, 7:59 AM
I'm taking a poll. Who out there with Nextel service will switch to a hybrid phone if they only offer 1900 mhz roaming? Would you be more inclined if they offer 800 mhz roaming on CDMA & analog?
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raycarroll70

Nov 25, 2006, 6:29 PM
If the FCC has it their way, analog/AMPS will be taking s permanent dirt nap by the end of 2008 so I wouldn't hold my breath if you're looking for AMPS to be incorporated in the next series of Hybrid phones. I have a Motorola i730 and will migrate it over to a Hybrid phone ONCE a dual band CDMA/single band iDEN PTT one is released. I personally feel dual band will be better as there are quite a few low band/850 MHz CDMA wireless carriers in North America that fill in the gaps where the PCS/1900 MHz CDMA ones either do not have their own network or where the PCS network is marginal for signal. Even when dual band CDMA/iDEN PTT Hybrid phones do get released, I'll still hold off until any erratas with the phones is discovered and corrected. Can...
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Argonnj

Nov 25, 2006, 6:58 PM
Win 98? I can see ME, which was crap, but 98 worked very well and is still used today by many.
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jrfdsf

Nov 26, 2006, 8:32 AM
Argonnj said:
Win 98? I can see ME, which was crap, but 98 worked very well and is still used today by many.

So what is your vote?
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Azraelalpha

Dec 3, 2006, 4:27 PM
I Vote For Win98 SE.
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jrfdsf

Dec 3, 2006, 4:34 PM
Azraelalpha said:
I Vote For Win98 SE.

Thanks for voting, but the question is, if the hybrid phones ONLY have 1900 CDMA roaming, will that be enough to persuade you to buy one?
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Azraelalpha

Dec 3, 2006, 4:40 PM
nah, i would rather have more coverage, so i would stick with a regular dual band phone.
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jrfdsf

Dec 3, 2006, 5:09 PM
Thank you, my point EXACTLY! When are those guys at Sprint gonna wake up and smell the coffee. Nobody's trading in a regular Nextel phone for a SN hybrid that has roughly the same coverage. I'd trade in a heartbeat if it was dual band, but it isn't. This phone could've been a big homerun for them, but instead, they'll be lucky if it's a base on balls.
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Argonnj

Dec 19, 2006, 11:58 AM
Wanna bet. Remember a standard Nextel phone doesn't roam at all. Outside Nextel coverage area and you have a paperweight. I for one would, if I had to rely on a single band, would pick Sprint over Nextel for coverage. Plus as a user of both, I have found you can make a call with less bars on Sprint then I could on Nextel. Most Nextel user don't realize this as a lot of time is spent on DC which is less fussy with less bars since its not a constant connection as in a phone call.
I have since ditched Nextel all together in favor of Sprint. My Treo 700p is 100% more useful then any Nextel phone I have ever owned.
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bkw212007

Dec 20, 2006, 1:12 AM
I had Sprint PCS for awhile and it was totally useless almost anywhere I went (choppy calls, dropped calls, roaming, no service at all, etc.). This was even in town. I switched to Nextel a little over a year ago and I have yet to find a place where my Nextel won't work (except in my basement sometimes, but hey, it's a basement...walk upstairs and get full signal). Both phone calls and Direct Connect calls are crystal clear with zero bars, versus Sprint's CDMA, which cut out at two bars or less. I'm in a rural area in north central Ohio, about 65 miles north of Columbus, and have no problems at all. Again, depends on your area though.
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Argonnj

Dec 20, 2006, 8:07 PM
Sounds like you had a crappy phone, or at least a defective one. Maybe you don't live in an area served by Sprint. Overall, nationwide Sprint has a larger footprint then Nextel. I find Sprint's call quality far better then Nextel's.
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bkw212007

Dec 21, 2006, 1:35 AM
I tried two different Sprint phones, both brand new...not much luck with either. The salespeople swear up and down that this entire area is covered by Sprint towers. Well, I have a few friends on Sprint and I can rarely reach them either. When it does go through, the conversation usually ends within a minute when they drop the call.

We all have our own experiences, but overall, my personal one is that Sprint PCS is pretty bad and that Nextel works much better. I have probably 30 friends on Nextel and not one has a complaint about service. But again, that's my experience, in my area, and strictly my opinion.
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jrfdsf

Dec 21, 2006, 6:49 AM
Nextel's native network is actually larger nationwide than Sprint's. But when you factor in all the roaming you can have on a standard tri-band PCS phone, there's no contest.

This is why I think they need to offer the same roaming options on this hybrid phone that are offered on regular Sprint phones. Had they done this, I believe the phone would be a homerun.

I personally am waiting to see what future offerings they come up with. If they offer a phone with at least 800 mhz roaming, it'll do well.Everyone I know on Sprint who own phones that have 800 CDMA roaming on them are completely satisfied, whereas those who have say, PCS+analog, not so happy.
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wombough

Dec 21, 2006, 3:28 PM
I don't agree with that. Sprints network is larger. There is allot more green on there map then blue.
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jrfdsf

Dec 21, 2006, 4:44 PM
Sprint PCS covers 250 million people nationwide. Nextel covers 263 million. This info is from their own website. Go to Sprint.com., then on the search bar, type in "Sprint plan advisor". Scroll down to bottom of page, coverage for each network is given.

Whether or not Sprint's native network or Nextel's is larger to me isn't the issue. The issue is with this hybrid phone, all you get is PCS for roaming options. While the combined coverage is better than it would be for a standard Nextel phone, it sure isn't the phone it could've been.

I think most of us had hoped for at least an all digital CDMA for voice based phone that would roam off of anything out there, similar to Sprint's RL phones which are tri-band as well. I guess they wante...
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wombough

Dec 21, 2006, 4:49 PM
ok I see your point. And yes by people nextel is bigger I was looking at land coverage. And I think your right also they should get a phone that can roam onto 800. But don't get a phone that has analog backup. Its a dead technology and I read were verizon is going to go against the rest of the industry and shut there off next year! Don't know how true it is. ANd also it kills the battery also. Even if you don't use the analog. Unless you go to some certain places in the US were majority of the coverage is analog only then it is a waste. Not to mention no EVDO phone will have that option. I would prefer the evdo myself but others my not!
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jrfdsf

Dec 21, 2006, 5:02 PM
If they make one that is voice- 1900mhz & 800mhz CDMA and 800 IDEN for PTT, it'll be a winner. Analog is less necessary than it was a few years ago, and CDMA is everywhere.

I saw your post on Sprint being #1 in a year. Y'know, I got laughed at for suggesting Verizon could lose market shares if they don't lower their prices.

I went on Verizon's website the other day and discovered that their N&W minutes ARE NOT even continuous from Friday at nine till Monday six! Did you know that? I always assumed that their N&W minutes worked pretty much the same way everyone else's did, but both Saturday and Sunday, there are hours of the day and night your "free" weekends aren't free.

My personal opinion is there are still a lot of people out th...
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wombough

Dec 21, 2006, 5:37 PM
Well to give you my opinion I think you have a valid point however not at present and verizon won't let it get there. They will adjust when they need to. They will adjust plans when there numbers fall. But not anytime sooner. There could be company Z charging $1000 a month adding millions and company X charging $10 a month and adding thousands and Comapny Z will not change because well its working!
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jrfdsf

Nov 26, 2006, 8:37 AM
Actually, that date is going to be extended because a lot of home security systems use analog cellular with their equipment. They have filed a petition with the FCC to extend this date. But, I'm like you, if A hybrid phone had 800mhz CDMA digital roaming, I'd go for that. 1900 PCS just isn't enough to woo me away from what I already have.
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bkw212007

Nov 27, 2006, 12:07 AM
The ONLY way I would switch to the hybrid is if I could have iDEN for a backup WHEN (not IF) Sprint's CDMA network fails. Not everybody I know has Nextel, so therefore not everyone has iDEN PTT...if I needed to get ahold of a non-Nextel person but I only had iDEN service, which I couldn't utilitze for a voice call even though it was there, I would be greatly irritated. Not too many experiences like that and my hybrid would end up in the trash can.

I plan on staying on iDEN until they actually boot me off...I honestly doubt that will ever happen.
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jrfdsf

Nov 27, 2006, 6:57 AM
bkw212007 said:
The ONLY way I would switch to the hybrid is if I could have iDEN for a backup WHEN (not IF) Sprint's CDMA network fails. Not everybody I know has Nextel, so therefore not everyone has iDEN PTT...if I needed to get ahold of a non-Nextel person but I only had iDEN service, which I couldn't utilitze for a voice call even though it was there, I would be greatly irritated. Not too many experiences like that and my hybrid would end up in the trash can.

I plan on staying on iDEN until they actually boot me off...I honestly doubt that will ever happen.

I agree that Nextel's network is better than Sprint PCS, although we seem to be in the minority in this forum. In fairness, I understand why Spr...
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snapps

Nov 27, 2006, 8:20 PM
i switched from nextel to sprint about a year ago and miss the ptt a lot. I plan on getting the hybrid phone but since i am not eligable for the upgrade price i am going to wait the 2 years and hopefully they will have new and improved hybrid phones out. I think the concept of it is awesome.
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