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bkw212007

Apr 26, 2006, 4:02 PM
Does anyone at all have any information about the future of the Nextel National Network? I have a Nextel i530 phone now, as well as several other people in my family, and we use Direct Connect all the time around our farm here in rural northern Ohio. It works great, great service, can't complain one bit, and we are actually beginning to rely on it. If they are planning to phase out Nextel's network in 2010 (which I honestly can't believe will happen), we will all have to change to Sprint's network. I will not be able to get any service here any longer because from looking at a couple friends' Sprint phones, they get nothing anywhere around this area except roaming, and if it's going to do that, you might as well just subscribe to Alltel ...
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Sprint Junkie

Apr 26, 2006, 5:52 PM
The direct connect will not be on CDMA they will still use nextels network for the direct connect and use the cdma for voice calls. nothing is set in stone but i have to beleive that is how things are going to work out.
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bkw212007

Apr 26, 2006, 11:44 PM
Oh, ok. Well let's hope that is true. I won't mind CDMA voice, but I don't want to lose iDEN Direct Connect. We use it all the time and it is really a great service that noone else can even begin to live up to.
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nextel18

Apr 28, 2006, 5:00 AM
they will have a dual mode phone cdma/iden that will use cdma for voice and data and iden for direct connect.. (in october)

they will have a push to talk solution compared to direct connect on the rev a network in the 2008 timeframe, called qchat..


nothing is set in stone? lol give me a break.
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Darth Ridiculous

Apr 29, 2006, 7:26 PM
is there any accessible info to verify this nextel18? Not that I think you're lying, you DO know your sh$T and all.....would just like to read up on it and be able to tell customers who constantly inquire!
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nextel18

Apr 26, 2006, 7:36 PM
no one is planning to phase out nextel's network in 2010. (those are just rumors)

1. there will be a dual mode iden/cdma in october. cdma for voice and data, iden for push to talk.

2. 2007; rev a will be on the network.

3. qchat will be out in 2008.
qchat= push to talk over the rev a network (cdma) 1.5 seconds on the setup call, flawless on intra calling.

Qchat right now could give direct connect a run for its money.
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bkw212007

Apr 27, 2006, 10:38 PM
Thanks for the info nextel18. Let's hope that is all true. However, what will they do with iDEN once QChat is running good? I have been hearing all good things about this QChat, so let's hope it is just as good as Direct Connect, or many Nextel customers will be disappointed.
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nextel18

Apr 28, 2006, 5:07 AM
well nextel has plans in the works to think of just putting the iden network for push to talk centric users, which will mean that it should exist until they shut it down.. (nextel generates a lot of money, so they wouldnt shut it down. )


well, qchat is very good especially since 2 years before putting it on handsets and on the network so i am sure they can get it better then the 1.5 seconds on the intracalling, which beats every other push to talk solution out there. on the CDMA network (DO REV A) helps a lot also becuase they can do all kind of data applications to push up data ARPU which they lead.

when Qchat proves to the world that it is a very useful tool and that others were a fool not to lock it up, they will not replace IDE...
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MIKE3222

Apr 28, 2006, 1:41 PM
why are you on here at 6 in the morning?
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nextel18

Apr 28, 2006, 1:44 PM
no clue.. thats when i woke up so i decided to post at the time...

especially since i wont post on the weekends.. (unlike some people )
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MIKE3222

Apr 28, 2006, 5:04 PM
i work on the weekends...
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Darth Ridiculous

Apr 29, 2006, 7:29 PM
lol
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Darth Ridiculous

Apr 29, 2006, 7:27 PM
by the time 2008 arrives you will be well over your current heavy phone, ready for a change anyway!
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Ask The Shack

Apr 28, 2006, 12:35 AM
Moore's law states that technology doubles every 18 months. There are 4 years until 2010. That means that our current technology will quadruple by 2010, and your worried about some stupid 5 second connection time that is already being solved now?

Let's just say we apply Moore's law directly to the 5 second delay, that means by 2010 there will be a 1.25 second lag FOR INITAL CONNECTION!!!!!!!!! I think I could live with that. Someone change this baby's diaper....
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bkw212007

Apr 28, 2006, 1:14 AM
Has anyone else ever heard of "Moore's Law"? I sure haven't. Anyways, I'm not complaining personally about the 5 second delay. That's Verizon's issue anyway, and I'm a happy Nextel subscriber, so I don't care about it at all myself. I am referring to business customers. They are the ones who would care about the delay.
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nextel18

Apr 28, 2006, 5:02 AM
lol dont listen to him...


he obviously had nothing to bring so he just said blah blah blah .
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Darth Ridiculous

Apr 29, 2006, 7:31 PM
the person on the other end has NO IDEA there is a delay, I can hardly tell what the big deal is with a measley 5 second delay.......is a freakin' bomb going off??
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bkw212007

Apr 28, 2006, 1:15 AM
I'm not complaining personally about the 5 second delay. That's Verizon's issue anyway, and I'm a happy Nextel subscriber, so I don't care about it at all myself. I am referring to business customers. They are the ones who would care about the delay.
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nextel18

Apr 28, 2006, 5:01 AM
by 2010, is too late lol..

please think of what you say first..
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blindsk8chick

May 9, 2006, 5:55 PM
don't....be.....a.....jerk.

this guy is a CUSTOMER, not an employee. he does not know all of the same stuff that you and i know. give him a break! this may be why customer service ranks pretty low at sprint.
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Solitaire982

May 7, 2006, 9:17 PM
If CDMA is used for voice/data and IDEN for DC how are those of us that live in poor CDMA signal areas to make voice calls? Will there be an IDEN fall back for voice? (I've tried both Sprint & Verizon where I live [neither work], so I'm switching to Nextel [late summer or early fall] which I know works here)
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Argonnj

May 8, 2006, 12:04 PM
I had heard from a nextel rep, that Sprint was going to be adding cdma voice on current nextel towers. Don't know how true that is.
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nextel18

May 8, 2006, 3:31 PM
lol..

they are doing that on both..

putting each others gear on each others cell sites..
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bkw212007

May 9, 2006, 2:32 PM
Great that they are doing that. If we have to use CDMA for voice, and not our "dead-end" iDEN technology, which works JUST FINE, CDMA better work here. iDEN may not be good for data, but if you want data, get Sprint. If you just want to make a simple phone call, which I thought phones were for when Bell originally invented them, get Nextel.
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Argonnj

May 9, 2006, 4:11 PM
The feds want iden, to use for themselves. Probably why they got such a sweat deal on the 1.9 Ghz spectrum. Not to mention that Sprint doesn't want to manage 2 networks.
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nextel18

May 10, 2006, 8:47 AM
please stop saying rumors about that the fed will buy out iden or wants iden.. enough please until that rumor is news.

they got a good deal on the 1.9 becuase they actually worked with the FCC and are basically paying for the whole operation and they did some math and calculations to determine that price for the 1.9 spectrum.

sprint doesnt care if it manages 3 networks as long as it is profitable and nextel's network is one of the most profitable network out there.
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nextel18

May 10, 2006, 8:45 AM
yea... your assessments and viewpoints are correct and accurate.

i just dont think IDEN is a dead end technology though becuase it still has ample cellular capacity but the only problem is with data speeds. WIDEN doesnt count. (lol) all they have to do is overlay it with a 3g+ type technology like they will be doing when they make the 4g technology choice.. (right now is towards ofdm.. qcom has a big say in this becuase they bought out flarion)
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blindsk8chick

May 9, 2006, 6:00 PM
i heard that as well because as technology improved for nextel, the sizes for the "towers" decreased also. this means all this extra space in the buildings in which the initial towers were "erected" (heh, heh). it will cost a lot less to add on to existing towers as opposed to spending almost a million dollars and 18 months to build towers in those areas that nextel service already exists.

i heard this from a guy (cannot remember his name) who was helping us do plan o gram for the day one of merger. he works in the department that was handling all of those issues with the merger like network, etc.
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nextel18

May 10, 2006, 8:52 AM
towers never decrease unless there is a reason to do so;

it costs a lot of money and time to build towers and a main reason why this merger is great, tower wise, is that they can put gear on each others towers to further enhance and improve the footprint.. one of the ideas of doing the dual mode is to slowly get off nextel's voice capacity and focus more on what customers really want- direct connect with cdma's voice and data, which are a lot better then nextel's.
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nextel18

May 8, 2006, 3:33 PM
as of right now, iden is just used for DC and cdma is used for voice and data. there is no indication that iden will fall back to voice..

so if there is a poor area for cdma, then you are out of luck.

sprint and nextel are building out towers and gear everywhere to improve on areas that are not as good as others...

if i see otherwise i will share.
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bkw212007

May 9, 2006, 2:28 PM
EXACTLY my worry, Solitaire. Where I'm at, Nextel iDEN works great, but there is no Sprint CDMA signal at all (I've tried it). I sure hope that either Sprint does a tremendous amount of building out their CDMA network, or that we have iDEN to fall back on, like you said. Yes, it's all fine and nice that Sprint can roam, but if it's just going to roam, why not just subscribe to Alltel or Verizon?
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nextel18

May 10, 2006, 8:42 AM
well sprint is trying all they can to expand their footprint and with nextel's towers that could futher enhance their footprint. if they keep doing deals that they are doing with alltel it would be great, but we shall see. hey remember you can always try it and if you dont like it return it..
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SprintBGN

May 11, 2006, 9:54 AM
nextel needs to rebuild their network in florida, it has taken a severe beating in the past two years.
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nextel18

May 11, 2006, 10:53 AM
many networks there have..
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bkw212007

May 11, 2006, 10:11 PM
Yes, any network there or near New Orleans most likely was hard hit. Heh, the equipment can only take so much.
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nextel18

May 12, 2006, 10:00 AM
yea..

unless we can have our own dedicated satelites then we wont be having any problems.

lol.
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