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cellphonesaretools

Oct 18, 2011, 11:10 PM
I can't believe this is true, but I'm sure the readers of this forum will correct me if I'm wrong.

For our Verizon account, our Unlimited Minutes begin at 9 PM, and if I place a 30-minute call beginning at 8:55 PM, Verizon charges the first five minutes of that call against our Anytime Minutes (or "Peak Minutes" as Verizon calls them), while the balance of 25 minutes that occur after 9 PM are charged against our Unlimited Minutes.

With Sprint-Nextel's "Business Essentials" plan, our Unlimited Minutes begin at 7 PM, but if I begin a 30-minute call at 6:55 PM, Sprint charges ALL 30 MINUTES AGAINST OUR ANYTIME MINUTES, because the call was STARTED before 7 PM.

The same is true on two of our Nextel lines where we pay $10/mo/line to have...
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gloopey1

Oct 19, 2011, 1:46 AM
While it's true that you would lose 30 of your daytime minutes if the call starts @ 6:59 pm, the same would also be true with Verizon since N&W wouldn't begin until 2 hours later. On the other hand, if you placed a call at 6:59 am, the entire call would be free on Sprint, but not with Verizon. Is someone really trying to say that Verizon's 2003 inspired N&W minutes are somehow better? Really? Who do you call after 9:00 pm?
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gloopey1

Oct 19, 2011, 1:56 AM
Most of the people I know have kids they're trying to get to bed at 9:00 and a call after that hour would not be appreciated. Furthermore, most of the working world is just getting up when Verizon's nightime minutes are ending. Forget about calling your bank's 24 hour automated system...unless your an early riser. Forget about calling your local time & temp every day to check the weather. Basically, Verizon's N&W minutes suck & are a dinosaur in 2011. There's absolutely nothing commendable about them, period!
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jrfdsf

Oct 19, 2011, 7:11 AM
I don't know if the ability to call an automated system before nine at night is a big issue these days. Most people I know use online banking. I do agree calls to family and friends during the week are better earlier than late.
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cellphonesaretools

Oct 19, 2011, 11:18 PM
gloopey1 said:
While it's true that you would lose 30 of your daytime minutes if the call starts @ 6:59 pm, the same would also be true with Verizon since N&W wouldn't begin until 2 hours later. On the other hand, if you placed a call at 6:59 am, the entire call would be free on Sprint, but not with Verizon. Is someone really trying to say that Verizon's 2003 inspired N&W minutes are somehow better? Really? Who do you call after 9:00 pm?

Most of the people I know have kids they're trying to get to bed at 9:00 and a call after that hour would not be appreciated. Furthermore, most of the working world is just getting up when Verizon's nightime minutes are ending. Forget about calling your bank's 24 hour automated system.
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gloopey1

Oct 20, 2011, 3:53 PM
cellphonesaretools said:
I'm not saying that Verizon is better than Sprint, because I believe most Sprint-Nextel plans begin Unlimited Minutes at 7PM, which of course beats the pants off Verizon's which begin at 9PM...
...That said, I do believe Sprint-Nextel is being illogical, and perhaps a bit unfair, by charging me for the entire duration of a call against my Anytime Minutes for a call begun at 5:55 PM, when on top of my regular plan I am paying an additional $10/mo/line to have my Unlimited Minutes begin at 6PM.

Maybe it's just me, but these two statements seem to be at odds with one another. If you truly beleve that Sprint's N&W minutes are way better, then what's the problem? How is it unfair th...
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gloopey1

Oct 20, 2011, 4:22 PM
OK, this one will work. I tried it.

http://shop.sprint.com/mysprint/shop/plan/plan_wall. ... » Plans
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cellphonesaretools

Oct 20, 2011, 11:36 PM
Hmmm...you're kind of blowing this out of proportion.

1) I merely stated that it was unexpected on my part that Sprint charges strictly by the time the call was begun, while the other carriers change their charging rates as the clock ticks over into Unlimited minutes time. I also admitted that it was my own fault for not having known that, but I'd bet I'm not the only one who took it for granted that the Unlimited minutes began at 7PM, regardless of whether a person was in-process on a call or not.

2) It is perfectly valid for me to have the opinion that Sprint's method of charging is less fair. The key word here is "opinion".

3) I also stated that IMO overall Sprint still has the best deal when comparing Sprint's 7PM Unlimi...
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gloopey1

Oct 21, 2011, 3:26 PM
cellphonesaretools said:
Hmmm...you're kind of blowing this out of proportion...

...it is illogical and pointless to bag on them and get nasty or personal about it.

Excuse me, but exactly when did I get "nasty or personal about it?" Do you honestly think everyone who disagrees with your opinion is being nasty? I would hate to see how you'd react if someone actually insulted you.

Yes, you have a right to your opinion, but so does everyone else on this forum. I don't see you hesitating to voice yours, so don't cry foul when others do the same.
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cellphonesaretools

Oct 22, 2011, 4:04 PM
Re-read your own postings, you'll see that you have a tendency to pull things apart, taking them out of context, and firing back with snarky replies and rhetorical questions.

My responses are merely reacting to your sometimes snarky style of posting. You get back what you put out there.
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gloopey1

Oct 22, 2011, 9:37 PM
..."you get back what you put out there." Excellent advice that we should all heed. The problem is that few do. Most of us say we believe in the law of reciprocity, but few of us try to work it to our advantage. One thing I have learned well is--constantly posting negative stories about a company won't fix their problems or mine. All it does is generate negative rebuttals from the community.
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jrfdsf

Oct 19, 2011, 6:56 AM
For all the reasons to choose a different wireless carrier over Sprint, I would say having better non-peak minutes would not be one of them. If someone places a half hour call on Sprint at five minutes before nine, none of his anytime minutes are used. How is splitting the difference better?
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genivrej

Nov 8, 2011, 10:46 AM
why would you start your call minutes before your N&W starts anyway? whether your N&W starts at 6PM, 7PM or 9PM you should know better to put yourself in the safe side.. duh!
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gloopey1

Nov 8, 2011, 6:01 PM
genivrej said:
why would you start your call minutes before your N&W starts anyway? whether your N&W starts at 6PM, 7PM or 9PM you should know better to put yourself in the safe side.. duh!

The really dumb part is him thinking that three less hours per day of free minutes is more fair. He must've failed math really bad in school.
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cellphonesaretools

Nov 12, 2011, 2:01 AM
gloopey1 said:
The really dumb part is him thinking that three less hours per day of free minutes is more fair. He must've failed math really bad in school.


Yet another pathetic post there, gloopey one. Still failing at reading comprehension, I see.

Such an unthinking, reactionary individual, unable to comprehend what you read, unable to process logic, unable to present any facts to back up your posts, unable to muster a legitimate argument, continually reduced to childish retorts - the typed equivalent of flatulence.

BTW, just where did you obtain your Master of Arts in Obfuscation? I want to make sure my kids never apply to the "school" [sic] you attended ;-)

AMF :-)
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gloopey1

Nov 12, 2011, 8:24 PM
For those of us on this forum who have no idea what this word even means because the average person never uses it:

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/obfuscation »

I think you would be far better off if you chose to master the usage of simple words rather than trying to impress everyone.

cellphonesaretools said:
...You might be surprised to learn how many calls have to be made and received, at all times of day or night, when you're completely responsible for the care of another person who can not care for theirself...


The last time I checked, theirself is not a word. I guess math wasn't the only subject you failed in school.
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cellphonesaretools

Nov 16, 2011, 12:14 AM
Yet again, you have no legitimate or substantive rebuttal to anything else I've said, this time the only thing you are able to do is pick out one single word and dispute whether or not YOU feel it is proper usage. Talk about missing the point and focusing on a completely irrelevant detail, a typical "smokescreen tactic" used by people who have nothing relevant or informative or accurate to say that is actually related to the original topic of discussion.

BTW, there is precedent in the use of the word "theirself", despite the fact that it is not in common usage today:
"In Standard English, the pattern of reflexive pronoun forms shows slightly irregular patterning; all forms but two are composed of the possessive form of the pronoun and ...
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gloopey1

Nov 16, 2011, 5:58 PM
Theirself is not a word. What you failed to mention in your post above is the source you cited plainly states this. If someone attempts to type the word "theirself" into the search box, he is redirected to a list of the correct words. The word ain't is also discussed and defined on that site in a similar manner. I think we can all agree that our grammar school English teacher would've marked either word wrong on a test.

Here are two links from Oxford and Webster's online dictionaries:

http://oxforddictionaries.com/noresults?dictionaryVe ... »

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/theirself »

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cellphonesaretools

Nov 12, 2011, 3:37 AM
genivrej said:
why would you start your call minutes before your N&W starts anyway? whether your N&W starts at 6PM, 7PM or 9PM you should know better to put yourself in the safe side.. duh!


DUH right back at you, pal. This should be obvious to you, but it is not just the case of making outgoing calls. Phones do work both ways, i.e. a person can actually RECEIVE an incoming call before their N&W minutes begin.

BTW, did you bother to notice in that very first post I clearly admitted that my ignorance of the way Sprint handles N&W minutes differently than the other carriers was my own fault? Don't you realize that if a person has already ratted themselves out, you jumping in and bagging on them AFTER they...
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