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Cingular Vs. Tmobile

Mendel

Mar 15, 2004, 4:17 PM
who has better coverage nationwide?
and mainly on the east coast?? (NY/NJ)
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trey1475

Mar 15, 2004, 6:41 PM
Well Cingular has a bigger coverage area in that region but have of the time you would probably be using the tmobile cell sites because of the roaming agreements in that area. Cingular has limited native coverage in that area but because of there roaming agreements with tmobile and other cellular companies. Thats why they have a bigger coverage area than Tmobile. But if I were you I would go with Tmobile beacuse they have built more cell towers in that area for Tmobile customers only. So cingular can't use any of there new towers. There new towers a better than there old towers. Not only that, your tmobile phone can work on the old towers as well as the new towers meaning better coverage and higher call volume ability. Also they have cheaper...
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Mendel

Mar 15, 2004, 8:35 PM
with no rollover!!!!!!!
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muchdrama

Mar 16, 2004, 1:25 PM
Rollover. Fah! Tmobile's metro coverage is unsurpassed along the east coast.
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Mendel

Mar 16, 2004, 6:48 PM
is this something recent? (my brother had tmobile, and lives and works in NYC, and he canceled his plan in Nov. 03 b/c of lack of service)
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muchdrama

Mar 17, 2004, 11:37 AM
Mendel said:
is this something recent? (my brother had tmobile, and lives and works in NYC, and he canceled his plan in Nov. 03 b/c of lack of service)


You'll notice I said East Coast...that's a pretty large area.
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hoppy

Mar 25, 2004, 7:23 PM
I have T-Mobile in NYC, and my reception has been excellent. The only place I haven't been able to get reception is in the subway. No biggie! The ATT/Cingular merger will mean more towers for Cingular. My friend has AT&T and can now make calls in a rural Berkshire town...where his T-Mobile never worked.

I have the Sony Ericsson T610. I have found its RF quite good. I don't think that the signal meter is very accurate though when analyzing low signal power. With zero bars, I still can make and receive calls.

The Samsung X-105 has unbelievable signal strength. A great phone if you're going to T-Mobile. A superb product
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simplyme

Mar 26, 2004, 1:06 PM
I've used the SonyEriccsons, as well as Nokia, Motorola, Samsung and Seimens, SonyErcisson has the worst reception of all of them, across the board, the t68's, the t300's, the t610...
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hoppy

Mar 26, 2004, 3:31 PM
Simplyme, I generally have to agree with you. I've been with Voicestream (now T-Mobile) for over four years, and have had a few different phones.

My first phone was a T28 Ericsson. Pretty good reception. Then they gave me a Motorola T193, which had terrible reception...and about 15 minutes of battery life. Then I bought the SE T68i. Very nice phone, but less than stellar reception. I sold that, and with rebates and upgrade, bought the T610.

I read a horrible review about reception on Mobileburn, but have found just the opposite. I get the same quality service that my friends Samsung X-105 gets. One thing I noticed is that when the signal meter reads zero, I still get decent signal.

I live in Manhattan, and the T610 works in ...
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PodLizard

Apr 1, 2004, 12:45 AM
AT&T Wireless is placing antennas in the subway, so people can use the service while commuting. So assuming the merger goes through, tmobile will again be in the dust.
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shiroitora

May 25, 2004, 2:06 PM
The only places that would end up being beneficial is at the stations themselves. Given the architecture of the subway systems, the only way you could get coverage while the train is actually moving is if they placed relays all along the walls of the tunnels. Relays happen to be illegal now in most areas (soon to be all) because of problems with emergency calls not being tracked properly. The only way to make this technically feasible (though not financially) would be to place actual cell sites all through the tunnels at very short intervals. This would almost definitely cost more than it's worth in coverage because I guarantee you'd end up getting huge amounts of dropped calls due to handoff issues. I'd be impressed if any company could pul...
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PodLizard

Apr 1, 2004, 12:43 AM
this message is proof that tmobile will say anything is is so false, roaming agreements are by SID/BID not towers, weasels I say.
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dtownsound8

Mar 17, 2004, 1:34 PM
are you kidding? even when cingular combines att's towers with theirs, they still won't have as much GSM coverage as T-Mobile. Not to mention T-mobile has a better handset selection, carries nothing more than one year contracts, and has better rate plans. Also, they have one of the highest rated customer care setups in the US wireless industry. As far as NYC goes, I can't much vouch for it because I've never been there with my phone, but the people I've talked to that have been there with their phones state that they work awesome. Think about it.. T-Mobile focusses on covering urban areas first, rural ares second. What area is more urban that NYC?
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Mendel

Mar 18, 2004, 1:41 AM
I tried T-Mobile in DEC 2002 for the 14 days then gave it back, I was working in a zipcode, that they said was coverd (on the website, and on the phone) but was totaly dead, the best I would get in the whole area was 1-2 bars, and at my work address NONE, so I called CS, and they checked it out, and told me that they did not have a tower for miles away, and this was a zipcode they "officaily" covered,

on the other hand AT&T (although I left them, and I dont like them) I must admit, showed that they did not cover that zipcode, altough they did cover most of it, it was still not on their map as covered, and the phone worked really good there.

back to question; who has the best GSM coverage? (even if tmobile added a lot, over the past yea...
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trey1475

Mar 18, 2004, 7:57 PM
Yeah, I like tmobile and every thing but I don't know about the cingular and att combined thing. I think cingular has a bigger coverage area than tmobile now (see tmobile map and cingular map compare). But also I have read many posts of people complaining that cingular coverage map is inaccurate. Tmobile is growing very fast. Not just by signing roaming agrrements like cingular is doing, but by building up their native coverage area. cingular had not much more coverage than tmobile last year. But now they signed so many roaming agreements that they are giving Verizon competition. true tmobile sign roaming agreements too, but not many. There native coverage is awesome by itself.
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Mendel

Mar 18, 2004, 9:42 PM
how is the coverage in Morristown NJ (and the New York Metro Area)
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dtownsound8

Mar 19, 2004, 8:28 PM
cingulars maps arent an accurate depiction of coverage. their maps show where they have "rights" to have coverage, but not necessarily where they actualy HAVE the coverage. Also, T-Mobile might not have as much roaming coverage as everyone else but it's basically because they don't need it. Cingular and att do not have much coverage in areas that we don't and there aren't entirely to many others that have gsm towers for us to make agreements with.

as of right now, t-mobile covers over 97% of the US population. that's a pretty bold statement. They focussed on putting towers where people actually live, then the highways connecting those areas and are now spreading out from there. It's the fastest growing native network in the US right...
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dtownsound8

Mar 19, 2004, 8:36 PM
well.. look on any coverage map and read the fine print... all of them state that the map is not a guarantee of coverage. Also.. t-mobile shares roaming agreements with att and cingular so if att or cingular works there... t-mobile most likely will as well. That's not to say that the roaming agreements are for each companies entire network, but if we didn't have native coverage in NYC, we'd certainly make sure to acquire roaming agreements. That's a pretty important area to cover.

was your brothers phone updated? also.. which phone did you try out.. some phones have better reception than others. I'd say your best bet is to go an actual T-Mobile store. They can access an interactive coverage map there which shows precisely where towe...
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Mendel

Mar 22, 2004, 3:27 AM
I had it for the 14 days (more or less in NJ)

my brother had them for a full year, and just canceled, (the over all service was no good)

everyone had better reception where he lived and where he worked, never clear phone calls..
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phonepimp3376

May 11, 2004, 4:32 PM
Have you lost your mind? T-Mo more network than Cingular? Put down the pipe!
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Pac10Ball

Mar 24, 2004, 4:21 AM
VERIZON. cingular and tmobile are very similar to eachother in service because they share cell towers in parts of the US. overall, neither one is your pick if you're looking for coverage and service. Verizon is your pick.
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MW2

Mar 25, 2004, 10:59 PM
are you a sales rep for vzw, 'cuz NOBODY HERE CARES about vzw or having access to the nations largest analog network with more holes then a block of swiss cheese.
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Aleq

Mar 26, 2004, 11:56 AM
Not to mention those spots where an attempt to make a call results in an automated system asking for a credit card number to complete the call with no mention of how much the charges will be. Verizon, my rosy behind! 🙄
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dtownsound8

Mar 28, 2004, 8:31 PM
are you on crack?? please explain to me how T-Mobile, a GSM company, can share a GSM tower with Verizon's CDMA coverage
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Mendel

Mar 29, 2004, 1:18 AM
sharing doesnt mean the same antenna, it means the same tower space (same property....)
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phonepimp3376

May 11, 2004, 4:38 PM
Try again, Pac... while T-Mo and Cingular do share towers, Verizon uses a different technology.
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moobak

May 12, 2004, 12:58 AM
Cingular currently has a HAYUGE gap of coverage on the east coast. They have extensive roaming agreements with T-Mobile there. Basically, Cingular has agreements /w T-Mobile to expand coverage in their eastern markets, while T-Mobile has agreements with Cingular to expand (or, basically give them any coverage at all) in their western markets.

The problem facing T-Mobile currently, is once the merger with AWS (Which had coverage in both markets, though alot more in the east), is that Cingular will not need the agreements with T-Mobile anymore. This means they could drop the agreements with T-Mo, thus leaving T-Mo in a major bind (unable to have a true nationwide coverage anymore). This is, unless they enter into a new, much less lucrative ...
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moobak

May 12, 2004, 12:59 AM
Oh, to respond to your thread btw, T-Mobile has better coverage (currently) on the east coast. This will change with Cingulars merger /w AWS. 😎
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phonepimp3376

May 17, 2004, 11:58 AM
Although Cingular might like to munch all that spectrum, I think they'd pass whether they had the money or not. That would be a VERY tough deal to get by the FCC, because it would reduce National GSM carriers to 1 - Cingular. FCC would most likely view that as a monopoly and rule that it hurts competition...if would effectively create an unbalanced playing field.
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