V600 specs changing daily on T-Mo
Has anyone other than me noticed that the T-Mo specs for the recently introduced ( recently to T-Mo that is, months ago for everyone else) Moto V600 are changing daily on their OWN web site?
Yesterday it was a "tri-band" phone (of course everyone out there knows that it was engineered with a quad-band radio, covering 850, 900, 1800, & 1900 Mhz GSM).
Today it is a "dual-band (900/1900)" on the web site.
Its bad enough to think that T-Mo somehow monkeyed with the software of this phone to disable the 850 Mhz band so that you couldn't take the phone with you to AWS or Cingular but now they don't even give us the 1800 Mhz band (which I may use in Europe - some of us do have a reason to go there).
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Yesterday it was a "tri-band" phone (of course everyone out there knows that it was engineered with a quad-band radio, covering 850, 900, 1800, & 1900 Mhz GSM).
Today it is a "dual-band (900/1900)" on the web site.
Its bad enough to think that T-Mo somehow monkeyed with the software of this phone to disable the 850 Mhz band so that you couldn't take the phone with you to AWS or Cingular but now they don't even give us the 1800 Mhz band (which I may use in Europe - some of us do have a reason to go there).
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This is because (I believe) T-Mobile doesn't utilize the 850 MHz frequency and so it's mentioned in effect to inform the end user that it will work only on T-Mobile's network although the phone is oriented to be the quad band like you mentioned. However, since this phone is made for multiple carriers, it will utilize all the known frequencies out there for GSM but maybe T-Mobile has spotted some known issues out there for the phone's use on partner networks under their service and perhaps this could have lead them to institute this change on their site.
This is just my hypothesis on what may have happened and not necessarily a true fact. Perhaps people like phonepimp can help out here and better explain the matter. 😁
This is just my hypothesis on what may have happened and not necessarily a true fact. Perhaps people like phonepimp can help out here and better explain the matter. 😁
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Cingular & T used to have a roaming agreement in place. They have dropped that now as Cingular is buying AWS. That is why they (T) probably dropped the 850
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Thanks for posting this. It had not crossed my mind, and it is probaly true.
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Actually the roaming arrangement is as it was until after the deal is completed. Once it is completed, Cingular will get certain spectrum from T-Mobile and T-Mobile will buy Cingular's CA and NV network. This will be transparent to the customer.
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IT IS A TRI BAND PHONE. There is no where on the T-Mobile website that the phone is listed as dual band. So for all the nay-sayers please read the site again. All of the marketing info and product info we have at our store says the phone is a TRI BAND. Being that T-Mobile has no use for 850.
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Starr06 said:
IT IS A TRI BAND PHONE. There is no where on the T-Mobile website that the phone is listed as dual band. So for all the nay-sayers please read the site again. All of the marketing info and product info we have at our store says the phone is a TRI BAND. Being that T-Mobile has no use for 850.
I have a PDF on my hard disk made from a screenprint of the T-Mo web site earlier today - It says dual band(900/1900). I got the image before T-Mo changed the page in the afternoon - shall I email it to you?
BTW, Maybe I have a use for 850. Why should T-Mo act as if it doesn't exist in the phone. They don't do that on their U.K. site.
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Because T-Mobile holds no 850 licenses in the US. If you want 850 its AWE or Cingular only for GSM... T-Mobile has no plans to add 850 that I am aware of.
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phonepimp3376 said:
Because T-Mobile holds no 850 licenses in the US. If you want 850 its AWE or Cingular only for GSM... T-Mobile has no plans to add 850 that I am aware of.
But as I stated in my post "T-Mobile U.K. lists the V600 as Quad-band".
They don't have any use for 850 Mhz in England either.
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The question that I have is, does the Mot V600 from T-Mobile support Quad Band? In other parts of the world? You know order it online from Amazon.com, get the phone, have it unlocked, and when traveling overseas inserting other SIM cards, will the Quad-Band work....? Is simply and advertisement issue that they say Tri-Band, but physically the phone will work in a 850 network if it was unlocked?
The question that I have is, does the Mot V600 from T-Mobile support Quad Band? In other parts of the world? You know order it online from Amazon.com, get the phone, have it unlocked, and when traveling overseas inserting other SIM cards, will the Quad-Band work....? Is simply and advertisement issue that they say Tri-Band, but physically the phone will work in a 850 network if it was unlocked?
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No, the T-Mobile version does not support the 850 band. This isn't a concern for you if you want to travel internationally, since the 850 band is hardly used anywhere except in the U.S. As long as you have 900/1800/1900, you should be all set.
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Check out what this guy says on his website...basically the V600 from T-Mobile needs to be wiped out and reloaded with Mot original software....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&catego ... »
Don't know....
Note...the 850 network is still used in Greece...where I want to use this phone.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&catego ... »
Don't know....
Note...the 850 network is still used in Greece...where I want to use this phone.
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My understanding is that T-Mobile disabled the 850 on that phone because that was one of the things that was causing a lot of the other glitches on earlier models for Cingular and AWS. As far as Greece goes, they may use some 850, but my bet is that it only supplements one of the other bands. The rest of Europe uses 900/1800, and so I would think they would want their customers to be able to roam easily.
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Hi
I am 'that guy' 😁 and what I'm saying is true. I've had many phones from T-Mobile to unlock and all are without the 850 MHz band. Here in the US Cingular and ATT operate on the 850 MHz and that is why TM has disabled that freq. to avoid people to 'move' to Cingular or ATT (= same company now). I have many services to offer including unlocking and software up/downgrades with original manufacturing software. I've a background in GSM of 5 years and have been in business for over 2 years now. For any questions please contact me directly.
Thank you
Owner/Founder
GSM Territory
GSM Incorporated
I am 'that guy' 😁 and what I'm saying is true. I've had many phones from T-Mobile to unlock and all are without the 850 MHz band. Here in the US Cingular and ATT operate on the 850 MHz and that is why TM has disabled that freq. to avoid people to 'move' to Cingular or ATT (= same company now). I have many services to offer including unlocking and software up/downgrades with original manufacturing software. I've a background in GSM of 5 years and have been in business for over 2 years now. For any questions please contact me directly.
Thank you
Owner/Founder
GSM Territory
GSM Incorporated
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As in addition to my earlier post Cingular and ATT are not only operating on the 850; Cingular operates primeraly on the 1900 and in some areas in conjunctions with the 850. ATT however uses in Canada (rogers) the 850 primeraly (if I'm not mistaken). Sorry about the confusion, was thinking about some other stuff 🙂
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Starr06 Does T-mobile have any use for the other bands? If not, why not exclude them too,
and just use the 1900 band? Of course it would not be a world phone would it?
There are some other countries that are starting to use the 850 band. South Korea for one, and Zambia for another. I know Zambia?? I don't have any travel plans there, but i do go to south east Asia, and if this is a trend, it is a shame that T-Mobile has decided that "it has no use" and not that the customer might want the use of the 850 band.
and just use the 1900 band? Of course it would not be a world phone would it?
There are some other countries that are starting to use the 850 band. South Korea for one, and Zambia for another. I know Zambia?? I don't have any travel plans there, but i do go to south east Asia, and if this is a trend, it is a shame that T-Mobile has decided that "it has no use" and not that the customer might want the use of the 850 band.
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Isn't South Korea entirely CDMA? I think there may actually be a couple of Latin American countries that have started using 850 GSM, though.
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I stand corected JDigital, on South Korea, you are corect. 🤭
I thought i read something about them getting GSM and it was going to 850 band. 🤭
But your right about South America, Argentina has a cell provider th 😁 at uses the 850 band. 😁
I thought i read something about them getting GSM and it was going to 850 band. 🤭
But your right about South America, Argentina has a cell provider th 😁 at uses the 850 band. 😁
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No problem... I'm not on the council of 12 for nothing. 😉 "Occasionally I like to help the humans." Identify that quote and you win a prize.
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Has anyone other than me noticed that the T-Mo specs for the recently introduced ( recently to T-Mo that is, months ago for everyone else) Moto V600 are changing daily on their OWN web site?
Yesterday it was a "tri-band" phone (of course everyone out there knows that it was engineered with a quad-band radio, covering 850, 900, 1800, & 1900 Mhz GSM).
Today it is a "dual-band (900/1900)" on the web site.
Its bad enough to think that T-Mo somehow monkeyed with the software of this phone to disable the 850 Mhz band so that you couldn't take the phone with you to AWS or Cingular but now they don't even give us the 1800 Mhz band (which I may use in Europe - some of us do have a reason to go there).
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Thank you Huyphamus,
The first intelligent response to my post that I've received!
I concur - would whoever gets the first T-Mo V600, get it unlocked and stick a Cingular or AWS SIM in it to see if it functions on 850 Mhz band.
I guess you'll have to make sure you're not on 1900 with AWS or Cingular.
If that works then we'll presume that they didn't mess around with the 1800 Mhz band either.
I find this unethical, to list this phone as a 2-band or either a tri-band phone, especially since T-Mobile UK has had the V600 on their web site for some time and it is advertised as a quad-band phone there.
The first intelligent response to my post that I've received!
I concur - would whoever gets the first T-Mo V600, get it unlocked and stick a Cingular or AWS SIM in it to see if it functions on 850 Mhz band.
I guess you'll have to make sure you're not on 1900 with AWS or Cingular.
If that works then we'll presume that they didn't mess around with the 1800 Mhz band either.
I find this unethical, to list this phone as a 2-band or either a tri-band phone, especially since T-Mobile UK has had the V600 on their web site for some time and it is advertised as a quad-band phone there.
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I know for a fact that it is at least tri-band, but I haven't seen anything that lists the T-Mobile version as quad-band. There could be two explanations for this. First, it could be that they don't bother to list 850 because it doesn't do their customers any good either in the U.S. or anywhere else. Second, it could be that they did actually disable that frequency, although I don't really understand why that would be necessary or beneficial for them. Who knows?
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JDigital said:
I know for a fact that it is at least tri-band, but I haven't seen anything that lists the T-Mobile version as quad-band. There could be two explanations for this. First, it could be that they don't bother to list 850 because it doesn't do their customers any good either in the U.S. or anywhere else. Second, it could be that they did actually disable that frequency, although I don't really understand why that would be necessary or beneficial for them. Who knows?
Guess what - It went back to tri-band on the web site. This is just since earlier today. Who knows by tomorrow it may be listed as quad-band!
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Or maybe, just maybe, the phone will be put on Double Secret Probation and be "Cinco" Band for use in the outlying parts of Mexico. Just a thought.....
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skcaugusta said:
Or maybe, just maybe, the phone will be put on Double Secret Probation and be "Cinco" Band for use in the outlying parts of Mexico. Just a thought.....
Possiblamente, pero yo creo que quatro frequencias is sufficiente para mi. Se usan 1900 Mhz GSM en Mexico. Ich moechte dieses Handy in Deutschland benutzen, nicht in Mexiko, und - je suis satisfait avec un mobile quadri-bande.
Michel, Michael, Miguel
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Am I a nerd because I can read all three languages? I guess no more than you are for speaking all three... 😉
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JDigital said:
Am I a nerd because I can read all three languages? I guess no more than you are for speaking all three... 😉
Miguelito said:skcaugusta said:
Or maybe, just maybe, the phone will be put on Double Secret Probation and be "Cinco" Band for use in the outlying parts of Mexico. Just a thought.....
Possiblamente, pero yo creo que quatro frequencias is sufficiente para mi. Se usan 1900 Mhz GSM en Mexico. Ich moechte dieses Handy in Deutschland benutzen, nicht in Mexiko, und - je suis satisfait avec un mobile quadri-bande.
Michel, Michael, Miguel
Let's add a fourth language, something that perhaps very few of you out there...
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sunilsonia said:...JDigital said:
Am I a nerd because I can read all three languages? I guess no more than you are for speaking all three... 😉Miguelito said:skcaugusta said:
Or maybe, just maybe, the phone will be put on Double Secret Probation and be "Cinco" Band for use in the outlying parts of Mexico. Just a thought.....
Possiblamente, pero yo creo que quatro frequencias is sufficiente para mi. Se usan 1900 Mhz GSM en Mexico. Ich moechte dieses Handy in Deutschland benutzen, nicht in Mexiko, und - je suis satisfait avec un mobile quadri-bande.
Michel, Michael, Miguel
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I believe it is only for advertisement. As you may know we have the Nokia 3595 and the Nokia 6010. Both are dual band 850/1900, but only get advertised as single band phones. I do not think T-Mobile would want to block this band (850) which is very important for so many people, like you, and besides, it would be to expensive to block.
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