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Very limited, I expect more!

Chapperal

Jul 16, 2006, 8:28 AM
I had T-mobile, it works great in a city, but it is the worse when it comes to coverage area.
Their coverage map tries to do a good job, but take advantage of the trial period.
Unless you just stay in a major city, I would go with another carrier.
What is the purpose of having all those minutes if they you can't use them in your travels.
I want, expect and need coverage.
As for customer service, I had no problems with either Cingular or Verizon.
For what they are paying Zeta, they could use that money for more towers!
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littlefuzzbear

Jul 16, 2006, 10:56 AM
Chapperal said:
I had T-mobile, it works great in a city, but it is the worse when it comes to coverage area.
Their coverage map tries to do a good job, but take advantage of the trial period.
Unless you just stay in a major city, I would go with another carrier.
What is the purpose of having all those minutes if they you can't use them in your travels.
I want, expect and need coverage.
As for customer service, I had no problems with either Cingular or Verizon.
For what they are paying Zeta, they could use that money for more towers!


You are being extremely naïve if you believe what they pay or don't pay Catherine Zeta-Jones has anything to do with whether or not they ...
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lancekalzas

Jul 17, 2006, 4:10 AM
I totally agree with bear. The other major carriers are a combination of a bunch of smaller carriers that were either bought out or merged together to form a huge one. T-Mobile originally started in 96. Last year alone, they put up over 3,300 towers costing them over $500 million and they plan on doing the same this year.
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dca

Jul 17, 2006, 10:03 AM
So is T-Mo, they picked up VoiseStream... T-Mo itself is nothing more than the wireless arm of Deutche Telekom...
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littlefuzzbear

Jul 17, 2006, 10:40 AM
dca said:
So is T-Mo, they picked up VoiseStream... T-Mo itself is nothing more than the wireless arm of Deutche Telekom...


This is true, but T-Mobile didn't start out in 1983 they started out in 1996.
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dca

Jul 17, 2006, 11:20 AM
..in that case, T-Mo/DT should've planned their purchases/buy-outs a little better. If they end up in any kind of pickle or predicament then it's their own fault. DT has every intention of milking it for all it's worth. That is their prerogative and I can't fault it. However, where the ends justify the means, they'll have to live off of being the low-price plan carrier in order to compete...
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littlefuzzbear

Jul 17, 2006, 1:14 PM
dca said:
..in that case, T-Mo/DT should've planned their purchases/buy-outs a little better. If they end up in any kind of pickle or predicament then it's their own fault. DT has every intention of milking it for all it's worth. That is their prerogative and I can't fault it. However, where the ends justify the means, they'll have to live off of being the low-price plan carrier in order to compete...


Huh? What *are* you going on about? T-Mobile didn't have any control over getting their spectrum. How pray tell could DT have gotten something that wasn't there in the beginning. And here's a hint for you: Include some of what you're referring to otherwise people don't have a clue what you're going o...
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dca

Jul 17, 2006, 1:32 PM
T-Mo/DT did not have to buy VoiceStream... It looks like Vodaphone made the right business decision when entering the American market w/ VZW.

My replies are in response to the 'naive' people who think that T-Mo is different (based on formation or whatever) to your VZWs, Cingys, etc.
The only difference is they have twice as less customers than their competition and twice as less towers.


Point is: people complained about the lack of GSM coverage w/ T-Mo. It was that way when they were VoiceStream and so-on. You have two choices, have DT build a ****-load of towers. Apparently the 500M put into it wasn't enough because coverage is still a problem OR you play the game as the lowest price plan provider on the block.
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littlefuzzbear

Jul 17, 2006, 6:21 PM
dca said:Point is: people complained about the lack of GSM coverage w/ T-Mo. It was that way when they were VoiceStream and so-on. You have two choices, have DT build a ****-load of towers. Apparently the 500M put into it wasn't enough because coverage is still a problem OR you play the game as the lowest price plan provider on the block.


Evidently you were too busy complaining to notice that T-Mobile has made lots of installation of new sites as well as signed many new roaming agreements both 1900 and 850. As far as naïve you're naïve if you think a carrier that started from square one in 1996 is going to have the same maturity of a network as one that was started in 1983 you need a reality check. P...
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tyman

Jul 18, 2006, 1:45 AM
What's wrong with being the a low price plan provider? As a customer I don't see one damn thing wrong with it. In fact, I've told 4 of my friends how many minutes I'm getting for the price I pay and they switched to tmobile. I used to understand the coverage thing, as I live in a small community of about 50,000 people in Kansas. However, after calling tmobile and talking to them about where the problem areas were in our community, I'm pretty happy to say a year later I have almost full signal strength every where I go now in the community I live. So Thanks for the new towers! And I don't know if its just my phone or not, but when I search for a new carrier to roam off of, I typically generate a list of 2-3 other carriers to roam from.
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dca

Jul 18, 2006, 8:23 AM
There's nothing wrong with being the low-price leader! The only problem with it is there are more & more 'bucket minute' MVNOs, carriers, etc out there now. T-Mo will have to excel, mature, and rise up to be with the top3 tier1 carriers if they want to continue or play a pricing game w/ their plans...

Complaining about naive posts, geez, too bad T-Mo employees can't read German... Someone needs to steal one of DT's 'progress in America' reports instead of reading the normal 'rah-rah' hand-outs.

It may sound like trolling, but the only people I feel sorry for are the CSRs out there at the stores. My heart goes out to them, with more and more 'Billy Bob's Feed Shack & Wireless' and 'Moe Surly's Funeral Home & Wireless' popping up a...
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littlefuzzbear

Jul 18, 2006, 6:25 PM
dca said:It may sound like trolling, but ...


If it sounds like a duck and it walks like a duck... need we say more? 🙂
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dca

Jul 19, 2006, 1:45 PM
HAHAHA! anyways.... I dislike the other carriers too, go TRACFONE!
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littlefuzzbear

Jul 19, 2006, 6:26 PM
dca said:
HAHAHA! anyways.... I dislike the other carriers too, go TRACFONE!


Just in case you didn't realize this, but TracFone isn't a carrier. They use lots of other networks both CDMA (Verizon and others) as well as GSM networks (cingular and T-Mobile.)
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dca

Jul 20, 2006, 7:38 AM
NS.
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littlefuzzbear

Jul 20, 2006, 8:35 AM
dca said:
NS.


PU
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carlsberg

Jul 17, 2006, 11:27 AM
I have faith that T-mob will dominate the US market in the future.

It is hard competing with other pre-existing merged companies monopolizing the market.

Verizon only has all that coverage because they share towers with Alltel. I live in Northern Virginia and travel to central VA all the time. Once I am out of the NOVA area it is all Alltel. If not for Alltel, Verizon have a small coverage. And Verizon advertise themselves as the largest network. Can't believe people actually believe false information. Idiots all over the place 😈

Yes, yes there is hope for T-mob.
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dca

Jul 17, 2006, 2:19 PM
They did buy towers. Geeez, if you're gonna' troll, do it right...

If you're worried about bang for your buck, try Leap's Cricket service. I mean, why not, T-Mo is worried about it, too... They're expanding as we speak... Expect T-Mo to drop price plans even further. BTW, the heck w/ discussing their voice plans, I see nothing wrong with what they offer vs what you pay inc crummy coverage... It's the data, don't buy a BB because it'll end up being one heck of a device you can only make/receive phone calls on...



Sprint-Nextel's stock is in the toilet (undervalued). Why? Even a dolt can see them having problems integrating two totally different networks...

Cingy, don't look for anything good from them because thanks to...
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sunilsonia

Jul 17, 2006, 4:23 PM
dca said:
They did buy towers. Geeez, if you're gonna' troll, do it right...

If you're worried about bang for your buck, try Leap's Cricket service. I mean, why not, T-Mo is worried about it, too... They're expanding as we speak... Expect T-Mo to drop price plans even further. BTW, the heck w/ discussing their voice plans, I see nothing wrong with what they offer vs what you pay inc crummy coverage... It's the data, don't buy a BB because it'll end up being one heck of a device you can only make/receive phone calls on...



Sprint-Nextel's stock is in the toilet (undervalued). Why? Even a dolt can see them having problems integrating two totally different networks...

Cingy, don't look for anything go
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dave73

Jul 17, 2006, 8:57 PM
I read once on CNet.com where Deusche Telekom was thinking about buying some of the GSM carriers that have cellular band coverage in order to reduce the number of towers that would be needed to cover the same area as covering the same area with PCS towers. One company that was considered was Centennial Wireless, which was originally based in Fort Wayne Indiana, but still has a call center in that city. They have A side licenses in the 6 states that carrier serves. I don't know when they might look at acquiring other carriers, but they are interested in acquiring some cellular band spectrum, instead of relying solely on PCS licenses, like Sprint does.
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dca

Jul 18, 2006, 8:15 AM
What does the patent infringement case have to do with the fact that T-Mo has crummy coverage? The BB is only as powerful as the data network it runs on. Let's just say for the sake of argument that out of all the carriers offering BB, T-Mo has more areas in the US (roaming agreements w/ Cingy & others) where the BB is only able to make/rec voice calls...

"A respectful request from all T-Mo users to you: Please check your facts before you go off making an arse out of yourself." Priceless, I never brought Zeta-Jones in the conversation, she is the only thing T-Mo has got going on even though the crazy googly-eyed VZW 'can you hear me now' guy has more posters with him on it than Mike Douglas' wife... Checking facts, please, stop side-...
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luguy

Jul 20, 2006, 11:42 AM
"Let's just say for the sake of argument that out of all the carriers offering BB, T-Mo has more areas in the US (roaming agreements w/ Cingy & others) where the BB is only able to make/rec voice calls..."

Just a fact you may have missed here, but roaming agreements are not limited to just voice, but can be used as well.
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lancekalzas

Jul 18, 2006, 4:14 AM
If T-Mobile doesn't have good coverage, then why did they win the coverage award from JD Powers 3 years in a row? I agree with sun, research the internet before making comments.
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AerMobile

Jul 19, 2006, 10:48 PM
I've seen a bunch of people pile on this guy, but he has a point. I've been on T-Mobile in the Milwaukee area for 2 years now, and coverage con be spotty. For example I'm sitting in my study right now, and the phone shows no signal. If I force the phone to sniff on 850 I can get 4 bars on Cingular. Same thing at my office. I've asked repeatedly about upgrades to the coverage, and no one seems to think I'll see any improvement any time soon. I actually had a rep in a T-Mo store point me at the Cingular shop across the street and suggest maybe I should go there. I've been off-contract for a year, and if Cingular gets the SE810i I probably WILL go.

To be fair, it's all about the local situation. We travelled in SW Colorado last summer. I was...
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dca

Jul 20, 2006, 7:55 AM
Indeed, SW Colorado appears to be a roaming area...

Also, in their defense, at least T-Mo is the one carrier not over-emphasizing a network. No: most powerful network or largest overall network or whatever. At least with them it's an 'it is what it is' kind of scenario...
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