Where is T-Mobile's coverage headed?
hey, I'm considering getting a T-Mobile phone but was curious about something. They seem to have really good reviews in terms of customer service and stuff, and they appear to have a good line-up of phones, but what do you guys think about their coverage?
I've looked at their coverage map, and it just seems to be spotty, which isn't necessarily a big deal since I live in a bigger city, but I am wondering if anyone knows what their goals are. They seem to be sort of the "smaller" (in the US at least) carrier with cheaper prices, and friendly plans, but not as good of coverage all over. Are they going to continue to expand and try to challenge the other big carriers, or continue to be strong and do well in their little niche?
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I've looked at their coverage map, and it just seems to be spotty, which isn't necessarily a big deal since I live in a bigger city, but I am wondering if anyone knows what their goals are. They seem to be sort of the "smaller" (in the US at least) carrier with cheaper prices, and friendly plans, but not as good of coverage all over. Are they going to continue to expand and try to challenge the other big carriers, or continue to be strong and do well in their little niche?
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Just an FYI, T-mobile does have roaming agreements in almost every state out there, so you are covered in many areas that they don't necessarily have their own footprint. I've heard expansion is always on the horizon, but making what they currently have better takes a front seat. đ
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T-Mobile I would say Is Moderate and Is better than Nextel and Sprint For sure Cuz I Live in Southern California and it works fine But has bad reception inside buildings.
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I am a current customer of T-Mobile. There service map needs a little bit of updating. There coverage is everywhere. I have never had any loss of service. I've been down to 1 bar or 2 but never have I lost complete service. If you are worrying about Tmobile and loss of service, it isn't an issue many people face.
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What kind of phone do you have and where do you live? I lose signal everyday with my tmobile phone and I supposedly live in an area that has good service, according to there map. I agree the map needs a little updating.
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hey, I'm considering getting a T-Mobile phone but was curious about something. They seem to have really good reviews in terms of customer service and stuff, and they appear to have a good line-up of phones, but what do you guys think about their coverage?
I've looked at their coverage map, and it just seems to be spotty, which isn't necessarily a big deal since I live in a bigger city, but I am wondering if anyone knows what their goals are. They seem to be sort of the "smaller" (in the US at least) carrier with cheaper prices, and friendly plans, but not as good of coverage all over. Are they going to continue to expand and try to challenge the other big carriers, or continue to be strong and do
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I would say that calling the 800/850 band (the cellular band) more desirable is inaccurate however... Cellular bands do not propagate necessarily better, the towers are just already in place for them...and they don't do as much. Verizon may boast the coverage but a lot of it is analog (which is what 'cellular' is, it's another term for analog.)
Analog is pretty inferior to Digital (or we say Mobile) bands for a number of reasons. It doesn't carry the same amount of information the way a Digital band will (so if you are on Verizon and wander into an analog area like I did a lot when I had the service) you cannot access your voice mail, your caller id may not work, and other things like that. You also often cannot use data services (su...
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Analog is pretty inferior to Digital (or we say Mobile) bands for a number of reasons. It doesn't carry the same amount of information the way a Digital band will (so if you are on Verizon and wander into an analog area like I did a lot when I had the service) you cannot access your voice mail, your caller id may not work, and other things like that. You also often cannot use data services (su...
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Nikoletta said:
I would say that calling the 800/850 band (the cellular band) more desirable is inaccurate however... Cellular bands do not propagate necessarily better, the towers are just already in place for them...and they don't do as much. Verizon may boast the coverage but a lot of it is analog (which is what 'cellular' is, it's another term for analog.) .
800/850 has been shown to penetrate buildings better than the 1900 Mhz band. You need twice as many towers to cover with PCS the same area that you do for cellular. The point is that T-Mobile will never have the numbers of subscribers or the physical plant to compete with cingular (with over 50 million subscribers) and Verizon with over 47 milli...
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And that's very true, (I hadn't heard that about the 800/850 penetrating buildings better but then around here they harp on digital being best after god too so you wouldn't imagine I would. Good to know) but I don't know that T-Mobile (or the people in charge) are really gunning for that #1 slot. I think they're happier to get #1 for customer satisfaction, so that where there is coverage they're a force to be reckoned with.
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First off get your numbers right Junior. Cingular is now 51 mil. VZ is 49 mil. S/N is 35 mil and TMobile is now 19.2 mil.
You say we won't ever be number one? We are! In customer satisfaction. Also...in my 3 years I have been there we have gone from 8 mil customer in 10/02 to now by the end of this quarter we will be at 20 mil. So buck up CHUCK...We will become number one.
You say we won't ever be number one? We are! In customer satisfaction. Also...in my 3 years I have been there we have gone from 8 mil customer in 10/02 to now by the end of this quarter we will be at 20 mil. So buck up CHUCK...We will become number one.
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You could try getting your numbers straight.
Verizon has 47 million customers, not 49.
Sprint-Nextel has 44 million customers, not 35.
Verizon has 47 million customers, not 49.
Sprint-Nextel has 44 million customers, not 35.
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Oh well...The last I had heard they went from 47 to 49. Maybe it was 45 to 47 (I just checked and it is 47.4).
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vz= 47.4 Million (http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/aboutUs/i ndex.jsp?cm_re=HP%20-%20About%20Us)
sprint-nextel= 44 million wireless
(http://www2.sprint.com/mr/news_dtl.do?id=776 0)
cingular= 52 million
(http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/micro_stor ies.pl?ACCT=088644&TICK=CINGUL1&STORY=/www/st ory/07-20-2005/0004070749&EDATE=Jul+20,+2005)
sprint-nextel= 44 million wireless
(http://www2.sprint.com/mr/news_dtl.do?id=776 0)
cingular= 52 million
(http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/micro_stor ies.pl?ACCT=088644&TICK=CINGUL1&STORY=/www/st ory/07-20-2005/0004070749&EDATE=Jul+20,+2005)
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Wow, I can't find anything of what you just said that is true.
First of all, the 850 band is called the cellular band. The 1900 band is called the PCS band. Cellular does not mean analog. I have no idea where you go that idea.
The band that a tower is running off of does not determine whether the service is digital or analog. The technology that a tower is utilizing does. CDMA and GSM technologies are what determine that the signal is digital. Both technologies are. The call quality of CDMA and GSM are both extremely superior to that of analog, but once again, there are thousands of towers in the US using CDMA and GSM (digital) technologies that are running on the cellular 850 bands.
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First of all, the 850 band is called the cellular band. The 1900 band is called the PCS band. Cellular does not mean analog. I have no idea where you go that idea.
The band that a tower is running off of does not determine whether the service is digital or analog. The technology that a tower is utilizing does. CDMA and GSM technologies are what determine that the signal is digital. Both technologies are. The call quality of CDMA and GSM are both extremely superior to that of analog, but once again, there are thousands of towers in the US using CDMA and GSM (digital) technologies that are running on the cellular 850 bands.
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You know it's not necessary to be mean about it. What I said was true as far as I know it and by my own inferences. I'll show you the train of thoughts that led to my post though.
Here are the Glossary entries that I was using as reference
GSM 850
(GSM 800)
"GSM 850 is simply GSM technology operating in the Cellular (800 MHz / 850 MHz) frequency band. Both the technology and frequency band have been around for a long time, but only in 2002 were they combined.
In the U.S. prior to 2002, GSM technology only operated in the PCS (1900 MHz) frequency band.
GSM 850 addresses the needs of carriers with Cellular licenses switching from other technologies to GSM.
Before the existence of GSM 850, the Cellular band was commonly ref...
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Here are the Glossary entries that I was using as reference
GSM 850
(GSM 800)
"GSM 850 is simply GSM technology operating in the Cellular (800 MHz / 850 MHz) frequency band. Both the technology and frequency band have been around for a long time, but only in 2002 were they combined.
In the U.S. prior to 2002, GSM technology only operated in the PCS (1900 MHz) frequency band.
GSM 850 addresses the needs of carriers with Cellular licenses switching from other technologies to GSM.
Before the existence of GSM 850, the Cellular band was commonly ref...
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I wasn't trying to be "mean" but it's hard to tell when people on this site are honestly mistaken, or deliberately making stuff up.
Even after reading your explanation, I still do not quite understand how you have come to the conclusion that all 850 mhz technologies are analog, therefore inferior. If T-Mobile is/was giving that information out to their employees, it is truely surprising to me as most of the implications it gives are untrue.
I do apologize if I offended you in any way.
Good night.
Even after reading your explanation, I still do not quite understand how you have come to the conclusion that all 850 mhz technologies are analog, therefore inferior. If T-Mobile is/was giving that information out to their employees, it is truely surprising to me as most of the implications it gives are untrue.
I do apologize if I offended you in any way.
Good night.
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Were you honestly mistaken or deliberately making stuff up when you stated tmobile is deploying 850 in midwestern markets? Because the only 850 coverage offered by tmobile is through roaming agreements, and they are not limited to the midwest.
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No, I was not mistaken. T-Mobile has already deployed 850 mhz coverage in Wisconsin.
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And if that isn't true, thank one of your alleged coworkers for that. It was posted in a thread of it's own awhile back, and people agreed to it as fact.
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Uhhh...yeah you are mistaken, there is no native 850mhz tmobile coverage. It shouldn't matter who said it, its factually incorrect and should not be repeated.
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No, No, No. T-Mobile does "NOT" have NATIVE 850MHz Coverage at ALL! They are letting the customers use the 850MHz band by signing "ROAMING AGREEMENT" with other carriers in the midwest. Some markets are Michigan, Minnesota, and Wisconsin. Thats the reason for them offering Quad-band phones, and on some phone Domestic Tri-band 850/1800/1900MHz. Where T-Mobile has a roaming agreement with the other carriers that use the 850MHz band, people that are in that certain location would be able to roam onto their network as long as they have an 850MHz phone.
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littlefuzzbear said:...CardinalRule said:
hey, I'm considering getting a T-Mobile phone but was curious about something. They seem to have really good reviews in terms of customer service and stuff, and they appear to have a good line-up of phones, but what do you guys think about their coverage?
I've looked at their coverage map, and it just seems to be spotty, which isn't necessarily a big deal since I live in a bigger city, but I am wondering if anyone knows what their goals are. They seem to be sort of the "smaller" (in the US at least) carrier with cheaper prices, and friendly plans, but not as good of coverage all over. Are they going to continue to expand and try to challenge the other big c
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SForsyth01 said:OK, so Sprint Nextel had about 43 million customers, not 30....and T-Mobile is over 20 million. So T-Mobile really doesn't stand much of a chance in that type of market.
OK so I had my figures wrong with T-Mobile having 19 million and SpriNT having 44 the point is that T-Mobile will likely never be any kind of real competition to any of the big guys like Verizon, xingular or SpriNT. Before Nextel merged with Sprint T-Mobile was just slightly ahead of Nextel. T-Mobile will likely never be a big powerhouse for mobile markets in the US. They are number two worldwide when you consider their primary assets and their partial involvements with other companies.
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but we arent talking about worldwide... we are talking about their united states company called tmobile usa... dont worry if you get your numbers a little bit off... dont worry.
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nextel18 said:
but we arent talking about worldwide... we are talking about their united states company called tmobile usa... dont worry if you get your numbers a little bit off... dont worry.
The point I'm trying to make in all this thread is that T-Mobile will likely *never* be a major player in the mobile field in the US. What they continue to do is to emphasize their strong point such as good rates and good customer service. Despite what some people say customer service *is* an important part of your experience. As has been said many many times before you use the service that works for you. It works just dandy for me in 98% of the places I commonly find myself. I'm a city dweller and the service w...
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i know.. i understood your point and i give you kudos. you are 100 percent right!
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Wow. You actually agreed with someone with out bashing them. LOL. đ˛
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lol.... but i agreed with them... if there is a sound opinion with good reasoning then that is fine, but if its saying blah blah blah with no facts or any sound reasoning then i will give my say.
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Okay...here's the deal. If you live in the boonies forget about it. If you live in a major city (which is what I believe you said) you should have great coverage in a lot of areas and good coverage in the majority of areas. Now you might be thinking what the heck is difference between good and great coverage. Great coverage (according to our own maps) is in building coverage maybe around 3-6 bars. Good coverage is in building coverage 1-3 bars and outside coverage of 2-5 bars. Go to tmobile.com and click on any of the links and then at the top of the page click on coverage and go to the personal coverage check. If your house is in green then you are in great coverage. If you are in a dark yellow then you are in good coverage. The cl...
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Is it true that Cingular will no longer let T-Mobile use its towers? If that is so, the won't T-Mobile lose reception/coverage? And also, since Cingular will be losing the revenue that comes from T-Mobile's paying for using their network, won't Cingular raise its membership rates?
In short, wouldn't BOTH carriers lose out?
-Lorna
In short, wouldn't BOTH carriers lose out?
-Lorna
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That's not the case at all...actually T-Mobile has gotten some extra coverage in the SE part of US from Cingular.
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coowguy said:
That's not the case at all...actually T-Mobile has gotten some extra coverage in the SE part of US from Cingular.
Then someone has misinformed me. I read a post that said that Cingular will stop selling network time to T-Mobile.
-Lorna
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lorna said:coowguy said:
That's not the case at all...actually T-Mobile has gotten some extra coverage in the SE part of US from Cingular.
Then someone has misinformed me. I read a post that said that Cingular will stop selling network time to T-Mobile.
-Lorna
They did allow their roaming agreements to expire in the west, which is why Cingular's western coverage sucks, so it wouldn't surprise me at all if this is happening nationwide.
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SForsyth01 said:lorna said:coowguy said:
That's not the case at all...actually T-Mobile has gotten some extra coverage in the SE part of US from Cingular.
Then someone has misinformed me. I read a post that said that Cingular will stop selling network time to T-Mobile.
-Lorna
They did allow their roaming agreements to expire in the west, which is why Cingular's western coverage sucks, so it wouldn't surprise me at all if this is happening nationwide.
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lorna said:...SForsyth01 said:lorna said:coowguy said:
That's not the case at all...actually T-Mobile has gotten some extra coverage in the SE part of US from Cingular.
Then someone has misinformed me. I read a post that said that Cingular will stop selling network time to T-Mobile.
-Lorna
They did allow their roaming agreements to expire in the west, which is why Cingular's western coverage sucks, so it wouldn't surprise me at all if this is happening nationwide.
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I don't understand why CINGULAR'S coverage sucks as a consequence
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SForsyth01 said:
Because Cingular used T-Mobile towers and now they can't use them because the agreement in the west was nullified after the merger. The agreement was between AT&T Wireless and T-Mobile and T-Mobile did not renew it with Cingular.
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This is bad news for me because I have been doing my research with the pre-conclusion that my carrier would be Cingular. I had already eliminated VZW and Sprint because of they disable phones to the extent that I would not be able to upload/transfer files from the phone to my computer via BlueTooth.
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lorna said:...SForsyth01 said:
Because Cingular used T-Mobile towers and now they can't use them because the agreement in the west was nullified after the merger. The agreement was between AT&T Wireless and T-Mobile and T-Mobile did not renew it with Cingular.
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This is bad news for me because I have been doing my research with the pre-conclusion that my carrier would be Cingular. I had already eliminated VZW and Sprint because of they disable phones to the extent that I would not be able to upload/transfer files from the phone to my computer via BlueTooth.
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SForsyth01 said:
Where are you located? Earlier this year, I travelled the country rather regularly on business and I have both Cingular and Verizon and people I was with had Sprint and T-Mobile, so I would be more than happy to help you out.
Also, without knowing where you live, I would be inclined to recommend the Motorola E815 from Verizon. That phone is much more open from a BT standpoint than any other VZW phone. And they are releasing the 6256i (might be the 6255), and it is supposedly going to be fully BT enabled.
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lorna said:...SForsyth01 said:
Where are you located? Earlier this year, I travelled the country rather regularly on business and I have both Cingular and Verizon and people I was with had Sprint and T-Mobile, so I would be more than happy to help you out.
Also, without knowing where you live, I would be inclined to recommend the Motorola E815 from Verizon. That phone is much more open from a BT standpoint than any other VZW phone. And they are releasing the 6256i (might be the 6255), and it is supposedly going to be fully BT enabled.
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SForsyth01 said:
Unfortunately for you Verizon worked best in the LA area when I was there, but Cingular and T-Mobile was not far behind. If you are that against Verizon, I would recommend trying a Cingular phone, and if it doesn't work to your liking, return it within 30 days and get VZW.
Very wise advice, and I will keep it utmost in mind. I also think that a Nokia will go far in my having good sound quality to go along with whatever the carrier has to offer. -Lorna
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lorna said:SForsyth01 said:
Unfortunately for you Verizon worked best in the LA area when I was there, but Cingular and T-Mobile was not far behind. If you are that against Verizon, I would recommend trying a Cingular phone, and if it doesn't work to your liking, return it within 30 days and get VZW.
Very wise advice, and I will keep it utmost in mind. I also think that a Nokia will go far in my having good sound quality to go along with whatever the carrier has to offer. -Lorna
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SForsyth01 said:
Well, Nokia is wonderful on Cingular....but if you end up having to go with VZW, I would recommend staying as far away from Nokia as possible (unless you get the 6256i) as they are horrible. LG is the best for Verizon all around. I don't know how the reception will be on the 6256i, but it is the only phone VZW will have with Bluetooth fully enabled out of the box(unless you go with a PDA phone). But both the Motorola e815 and the LG VX-8100 have hacks available to open up BT.
If I were to get a hack to open up BlueTooth on the Moto or the LG, would I still be covered by VZW if anything goes wrong with my phone? (Within the one year that they offer the coverage, I mean.) -Lorna
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lorna said:...SForsyth01 said:
Well, Nokia is wonderful on Cingular....but if you end up having to go with VZW, I would recommend staying as far away from Nokia as possible (unless you get the 6256i) as they are horrible. LG is the best for Verizon all around. I don't know how the reception will be on the 6256i, but it is the only phone VZW will have with Bluetooth fully enabled out of the box(unless you go with a PDA phone). But both the Motorola e815 and the LG VX-8100 have hacks available to open up BT.
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SForsyth01 said:
Not 100% sure. But as long as you get the insurance you will have no worries.
Life was so simple with my Moto V60i and AT&T before Cingular ate it up. I still have the V60i and am waiting for my contract to expire or until I reach my 3 month grace period. I am hoping that my favorite good phones get picked up before the end of the year.
The Nokia 6682 WOULD be a taker, but when I went to the Nokia Learning/Experience Center, I found that the keys were very very small and not as easy to press as the keys on my metallic candyapple red Moto V60i. -Lorna
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lorna said:SForsyth01 said:
Not 100% sure. But as long as you get the insurance you will have no worries.
Life was so simple with my Moto V60i and AT&T before Cingular ate it up. I still have the V60i and am waiting for my contract to expire or until I reach my 3 month grace period. I am hoping that my favorite good phones get picked up before the end of the year.
The Nokia 6682 WOULD be a taker, but when I went to the Nokia Learning/Experience Center, I found that the keys were very very small and not as easy to press as the keys on my metallic candyapple red Moto V60i. -Lorna
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SForsyth01 said:
The keys on the 6682 cannot be as small as the ones on my Nokia 6230, and they are not too small for me (and I have pretty large hands). You may want to look at it before you rule it out, as Nokia is very good at making small keys very ergonomic.
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Oh migod the keys of the 6230 are large compared to the 6682! I have handled the 6230 and the 6682 and there is no difference. For one thing, the 6230 keys are laid out in straight lines, whereas the 6682 keys follow a slight curve. Take a look, please! Compare for yourself.
BTW, the 6260 is the 6230 in clamshell form.
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I don't know....I have the 6230, but I have only seen the 6682 in pictures....but the keys seem to be adequate to me.
I can't get the 6260 because I need the 850 band.
I can't get the 6260 because I need the 850 band.
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lorna said:
I have handled the 6230 and the 6682 and there is no difference.
I should have written: "I have handled the 6230 and the 6682 and there is a HUGE DIFFERENCE."
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Forsyth, unfortunately any "suckage" on Cingular's network in the west is not from expired roaming agreements with T-Mobile. Cingular owns the network that both Cingular and T-Mobile used in the west. Only overlapping portions of the Cingular and AT&T networks were sold off there. If anything, T-Mobile is receiving the raw end of the deal.
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Just to rephrase your sentence, Cingular "owned" the network that they used. Now they don't. Cingular sold parts of their network in parts of the west to T-Mobile. In places where their network was sold to T-Mobile, Cingular now uses the old AT&T wireless towers.
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terryjohnson16 said:
Just to rephrase your sentence, Cingular "owned" the network that they used. Now they don't. Cingular sold parts of their network in parts of the west to T-Mobile. In places where their network was sold to T-Mobile, Cingular now uses the old AT&T wireless towers.
Reread my post, you didn't have to rephrase anything.
Only overlapping portions of the Cingular and AT&T networks were sold off there.
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RUFF1415 said:terryjohnson16 said:
Just to rephrase your sentence, Cingular "owned" the network that they used. Now they don't. Cingular sold parts of their network in parts of the west to T-Mobile. In places where their network was sold to T-Mobile, Cingular now uses the old AT&T wireless towers.
Reread my post, you didn't have to rephrase anything.
Only overlapping portions of the Cingular and AT&T networks were sold off there.
I said that because you said:
Cingular "owns" the network that both Cingular and T-Mobile used in the west.
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They still do own a significant amount of their original network in the west. Cingular and AT&T did not have an exceptional amount of overlapping infrastructure there, so only parts of it were sold to T-Mobile. As far as I know only a portion of California and the Las Vegas network were sold off to T-Mobile.
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I don't know about the "only portions" part of the network being sold, but hey I could be wrong. I will look into that.
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Actually the ENTIRE CA/NV cingular network was sold to tmobile which used it for several years prior to the merger. Cingular still uses the network for the time being(ends 2008, but don't quote me on that)until they are able to transition all their users to the blue network.
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Cingular and T-Mobile jointly owned the CA network, and T-Mobile bought our Cingular's share of the network after the ATT/Cing merger.
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guitarman21 said:
Cingular and T-Mobile jointly owned the CA network, and T-Mobile bought our Cingular's share of the network after the ATT/Cing merger.
My point exactly. And now Cingular's customers can only use the old AT&T towers, which doesn't provide as good of coverage in CA/NV as their own used to.
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đ IT DEPENDS WHERE U LIVE T-MOBILE HAVE GOOD COVERAGE IN HEAVILY POPULATED AREAS BUT IN NON-POPULATED AREARS THEY ARE BAD.
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Having been a customer of T-Mobile in Central Massachusetts for the last year, I find the coverage okay most of the time, but if you are going to be traveling and more than a mile from a major interstate, forget it. I have good coverage in most of Worcester (although curiously the rich side of town has crap for coverage). At my home in Spencer coverage is okay, but not great. If I travel about 3 miles north of my home, I can drive a state road for 25 miles and along that have virtually no coverage at all. As for roaming agreements, in my experience they are non-existent in Massachusetts. I've tried to manually in my phone connect to ATT or Cingular in areas where there is no T-Mobile coverage and always been denied access. The bottom l...
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đ T-Mobile is great and is very user friendly very inexpensive but you had your question about coverage well most of T-Mobile's plans(national plans, exluding regional) offer roaming for free which means your covered anywhere the coverage map that is on T-Mobiles website is what T-Mobile has its Cellular Towers and excellent reception. So no matter what your covered!!! T-Mobile is very great and like I said very user friendly. Its a great phone company and I have great faith in them as a company.
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i think coverage is decent, however, they need to improve heavily in this area.
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nextel18 said:
i think coverage is decent, however, they need to improve heavily in this area.
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In my area (Central Florida), T-Mobile really has excellent coverage. I worked for the company directly for about 2 years, and just recently went to a company that sells T-Mo, Cing and Sprint...my store sells a lot of T-Mobile and gets very few returns as opposed to my other carriers. Coverage wise, there is a company called Telepathia that basically drives around a specific area and measures the reception of each carrier. YOu can than see a map that shows where there are dropped calls, lost calls, no service. blocked service, etc. T-Mobile and Verizon are by far the best in this area. Nextel and Sprint were the worst, regardless of how often their reps come in here boasting about their "superior" network. I believe this company makes ...
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i dont really pay attention to jd powers and associates and other surveys like that who only takes a few people and not the majority of users.
yea, sprint and nextel are horrible in florida..
tmobile is good in some areas, however, they are lacking in many areas. such as coverage, 3g network, and of course total subscribers.
yea, sprint and nextel are horrible in florida..
tmobile is good in some areas, however, they are lacking in many areas. such as coverage, 3g network, and of course total subscribers.
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Stop atttack T-Mobile just cause they don't have a 3G network, and alot of subscribers. Why don't you just stay in the Nextel/Sprint forum since they merged. If you really want to increase their network in a quick time, GIVE them a few billion and tell them to hurry up and fix the network. Plus, since you are a Nextel fan, go tell Sptint to hurry up and merge the two networks, with some new dual CDMA-iDEN phones within the next few months. Oh, if you haven't noticed they have 2 different networks and it take time. Just like building a 3G network it take time, so stop rushing T-Mobile. If you want 3G go to Verizon's EV-DO network.
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i can attack them, becuase it is true. i love to say facts and then debate that with sound opinions.
lol ... pathetic questions....
i am a wireless fan, not just a nextel and sprint fan. i like the whole wireless sector and likes to talk about all of the companies and their pros and cons.
tmobile doesnt even have 3g spectrum to deploy 3g data. lol.
lol ... pathetic questions....
i am a wireless fan, not just a nextel and sprint fan. i like the whole wireless sector and likes to talk about all of the companies and their pros and cons.
tmobile doesnt even have 3g spectrum to deploy 3g data. lol.
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wow that was fast đ Is edge considered 3g? I believe T-Mobile is rolling out their edge, or have alread, on 90% of their network.
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EDGE is not 3G. EDGE is a 2.5G network. UMTS is 3G, and HSDPA is a 3.5G network.
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u say thanks to him and not to me? âšī¸ (lol i gave you that answer too)
nah i am just kidding with ya...
nah i am just kidding with ya...
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đ so I went and thought about this issue over a few beers until about 3am last night (or this morning), and had many discussions with my collegues and came to the conclusion that all carriers suck. đ mainly becasue they ruin a perfectly good night of drinking by actually talking about stupid things like this. So i'm going to go to the central florida and south florida football game, i'm going to drink and have a good time with my friends and send picture messages, text messages and whatever messages i can on my 2.5g network, and have a wonderful time doing it! HA cheers! đ
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So if you know that they don't have the 3G spectrum, so why you keep saying they suck since they don't the 3G network in place? Stop beasting on them. Oh, and by the way, Nextel doesn't have a 3G network in place either, thats why they need Sprint's help to move on up.
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i dont say they "suck" i am just saying that might hamper their growth since they dont really have a niche. nextel has a niche.
they dont need sprint to get 3g network they could always do so in their 1.9ghz or in their 2.5ghz but they felt like it was better to merge becuase there are many synergies.. anyway, this is about tmobile usa not about sprint-nextel.
they dont need sprint to get 3g network they could always do so in their 1.9ghz or in their 2.5ghz but they felt like it was better to merge becuase there are many synergies.. anyway, this is about tmobile usa not about sprint-nextel.
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Yeah I understand that JD Powers doesnt ask every customer, but I don't think it should be discounted đ . Thats why I also mentioned the Telephia information which physically measured the networks strength etc. Also the fact that T-Mobile's coverage map is probably the most realistic one out there. People know what to expect, whereas other carriers tend to exagerate their maps significantly. Two best carriers in my eyes, T-Mobile and Verizon. Quick question, did Verizon merge with any other carrier to get to 47mil?
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well i think it should becuase it isnt the true feelings of what the majority feels. hey that is my opinion and you have yours.. its not a big deal. i am saying tmobile usa is doing well right now, but will they be in the future? i am not sure.. if they dont get 3g spectrum they have to become a niche player and target the prepaid and old folk market.
yea, tmobile seems to be real.
with the verizon question... i have no idea, but i am sure they merged with many carriers.
in a saturated market you need to merge.
the problem is... data will be the key and tmobile usa doesnt have that... âšī¸
yea, tmobile seems to be real.
with the verizon question... i have no idea, but i am sure they merged with many carriers.
in a saturated market you need to merge.
the problem is... data will be the key and tmobile usa doesnt have that... âšī¸
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they will have data in 2 years, give them a freaking break already, data at this point is not life or death and will not be for at least 2 more years if not more.
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Thank you. Most people don't care about the data part, they just want to make sure the voice part is up an running with no problems.
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Okay thats about the 7th time you've used 3g spectrum in reference to a US carrier so I feel the need to correct you. No US carrier has "3g spectrum", any US carrier that has currently deployed 3g technology uses cellular or PCS spectrum that has already been licensed. By definition "3g spectrum" would be spectrum designated specifically for 3g services. In europe and asia additional bandwidth in the 2100mhz range has been made available for just this purpose. The FCC does not currently plan to license additional bandwidth to accommodate 3g specifically. You are correct tmobile does not have the spectrum needed to deploy 3g, but when you use the term 3g spectrum you infer that it actually exists in the US and tmobile somehow missed out, not ...
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nextel18 said:
the problem is... data will be the key and tmobile usa doesnt have that... âšī¸
Well, I just did a speed test this morning on my T-Mobile Internet connection here in Chicago. During a 3 min download, I got an average speed of 180 kbps.
Perhaps you were referring to 3G in your comment; but 180 kbps very nearly qualifies as a legit data service...especially at $19.99/mo, unlimited!
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In all actuality Verizon was originally formed by the merge of three or four different companies including a few baby bells. In 2000 they had approximately 25,000+ customers. Since the 2000 time frame Verizon has devoured smaller entities and gained a few customers here and there, but most of their growth since 2000 has been organic.
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