I HATE CINGULAR!! NOOOOOO!!! I WAS PLANNING TO POSSIBLY DUMP CINGULAR AND COME BACK TO T-MOBILE!!! ☹️

It's not like cingular will buy it 🙄 I really hope it doesnt get sold but I think vodafone would be fine

I wanna kick myself in the a$$ for ever leaving T-Mobile to go to Cingular. I left because I get 8.00 off my bill at cingular because of where I work. Yet with all the text msging it comes to almost what i was paying at T-Mobile with text messaging included. Who cares about the coverage area, I miss T-Mobile.

Guess this is the wrong time to bring up the unlimited picture/text messaging feature for 14.99 we just brought out, huh... 😉

Also, if anyone would be so kind as to print out the text of the article for those of us behind firewalls, that would be just ducky... 😎

You mean for those people working @ the world's first trans-atlantic wireless carrier on the glorious day the pilgrims declared their independence from Great Britain...who can only go on three approved industry websites. Yeah that wouuld be great. By the way... Vodafone would be awesome.

Rumor: Deutsche Telekom to sell T-Mobile USA
Jul 03 2005 - 12:05 PM ET | Rumor, T-Mobile

The Wall Street Journal Online has a piece [paid sub required] today about Deutsche Telekom possibly looking to sell T-Mobile USA.

As the German telecommunications giant faces a huge bill to upgrade the U.S. unit to keep pace with rivals, Deutsche Telekom's management board has been debating T-Mobile USA's fate, according to people close to the matter. The company has told investors recently it expects to make a decision by December.

T-Mobile USA will become the smallest player by a long shot once Sprint completes its merger with Nextel. It's also the only US carrier without 3G plans in progress.

Vodafone is targeted as a likely buyer since ...
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I hope it is true! 😁 I envision myself having a 3G handset that I don't have to buy unbranded and unlocked at twice the price. And I would actually be able to use all the phone's features. A huge Vodafone banner acrossed the chest of every Dallas Cowboy's player(America's Team).

Can you say Global phone launches and two words for you -- Vodafone Live! -- 😉

Yes... I welcome Vodafone with open arms. They pull their stake out of Verizon, leave them scrambeling to figure out how to run things with no money... Vodaphone revamps Tmobile, throws their weight around with the manufactures, more handsets make it over here... Cingular takes advantage of all this and wins big time...


But seriously, Vodaphone knows their sh*t... They need to be over here and not with Verizon...

how does cingular take advantage if they will have a harder time getting CINGULAR EXCLUSIVE phones. We live today in a global economy Cingular is small potatoes when compared to Vodafone, as a matter of fact Vodafone is much larger than SBC who is cingular's Parent Company. They are a major- INTERNATIONAL player.

Cingular will have a chance if they start marketing to the REAL AMERICANS. You know the ones who could care less as long as things are cheap, especially BEER and Cable TV.

agreed... but... the way Cingular takes advantage is it will be awhile before Vodaphone could get their us customer base up to standards of what Cingular/Verizon/Sprint-Nextel will have. So Vodaphone uses int'l leverage to get the manufactures to start pumping out more GSM 850 phones, Cingular enters into agreements, has the customer base to make the manufactures happy, and every body wins...

"Cingular enters into agreements"

So when you say everybody wins... Do you mean America will finally get some type of "blanket" GSM cell phone coverage that is years past due.
I want 3G as much as anybody else but it would be nice to have more coverage when you need it.

Hello Moto said:
Yes... I welcome Vodafone with open arms. They pull their stake out of Verizon, leave them scrambeling to figure out how to run things with no money... Vodaphone revamps Tmobile, throws their weight around with the manufactures, more handsets make it over here... Cingular takes advantage of all this and wins big time...


But seriously, Vodaphone knows their sh*t... They need to be over here and not with Verizon...

Uh, Vodafone pulling it's stake out of Verizon wouldn't hurt the company in the least. In fact, it would leave Verizon flush with cash. Do your homework.

Is Vodafone a god company to deal with? i am afraid that things will het worse than they are now if they purchase T-Mobile USA. What will happen to the GET More philosophy, in terms of us getting better rate plans, and cheaper phones, plus better customer service?

Sorry for my spelling errors.

vodaphone doesnt want tmobile.. they said it many times....

by the way why would you invest in a company with only 14 million customers that still has to invest in a 3g network and invest heavily in their network?

they will probably look at nextel/sprint.

nextel18 said:
vodaphone doesnt want tmobile.. they said it many times....

by the way why would you invest in a company with only 14 million customers that still has to invest in a 3g network and invest heavily in their network?

they will probably look at nextel/sprint.

Vodafone also said they didn't want ATTWS...and the whole while they were bidding just as vehemently as anyone else. That argument doesn't hold any water.

sure it does my friend.... vodaphone didnt want att wireless too, or else they would have bought them.. they have a lot of assets, plus the assumption of another 20 billion dollars for their 45 percent stake in verizon wireless. thus; they didnt want att wireless.

think about this, mr, why would vodaphone be interested in a struggling att wireless company and sell the most profitable wireless company in verizon wireless? they arent stupid, my friend. vodaphone just played with cingular to get them to pay 11 billion dollars more.

so my argument holds well. sorry...

vodaphone wouldnt want tmobile either vs verizon wireless... lets compare why..

high speed data? verizon wireless
more subscribers? verizon wireless
most profitable...
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T-Mobile actually has 18 million customers.

i know... someone already told me...

😁 Me.

awesome!!! 😎

Being acquired by another European company would be the least toxic alternative--they'd be more likely to just let us go on as we have been doing and not try to micromanage us into bankruptcy... 🙄 I'd be really ticked off to be bought out by any other US carrier, though, because quite frankly I think they don't provide as good a service as TMo does and I wouldn't like working for them...

I don't think Cingular has any need for T-Mobile. They would be buying the hassle of running a redundant network and not so many customers with it, compared to how many of their own they already have. Vodafone has already stated that they're not interested, although some speculate that it might dump its 45% share of Verizon Wireless in favor of the 100% ownership of a GSM network. I really can't even begin to guess who might want to buy. I sure hope it's not going to be some dumb cable company that wants to jump into the wireless business, like Comcast 👿 . That just might make me switch to Cingular...

The FCC would never allow T-Mobile to be bought out by Cingular. They will not cut out the GSM 1900 competitor by allowing Cingular to buy it. It might go to a CDMA carrier as crazy as that sounds.

Don't forget about Dobson.......

"Then there is the issue of whether Deutsche Telekom would even sell to Vodafone. They compete head to head in many markets, so if Deutsche Telekom sold T-Mobile USA to Vodafone, it would in effect be assisting its chief rival.

“Deutsche Telekom and Vodafone are archenemies,” said Roger Entner, who leads the U.S. wireless division at Ovum, a telecom consulting firm. “This would be worse than losing to England in soccer.”

lol....whys that...... most of the network you use is Cingulars anyways.

Cingular has no customer service, and most of the roaming agreements are actually with smaller carriers, NOT cingular.

Actually he is not utterly wrong. A monopoly would be a single cell phone provider altogether, not a single GSM cell phone provider. The government would not be saying "Hey, now there is only one national GSM provider, and we can't have that". They don't differentiate between CDMA, GSM, TDMA, or anything like that, it is just the service, cellular service altogether that they look at.

If you were right in your thinking then Nextel would have been shut down long ago for their national "monopoly" in iDen or forced to switch their technology, and they have not.

Anyway, Cingular is not interested in tying their hands up in another company at the moment. I doubt they could afford it either.

Cingular already had to sell off a chunk of their spectrum in several markets. If they picked up T-Mobile, they would have to dump a bunch of the spectrum anyway, so I don't think it would be smart for them. Besides, Cingular is in debt and isn't making money. See this article:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7574352/ »

In no way to I believe that Cingular could pull off another buyout. I was just stating that a monopoly wouldn't occur for the simple fact that they would be the only national GSM carrier left.

Besides, it would not be business saavy for Cingualar to do it, becuase they have their hands full with integrating two huge networks already, and the amount of spectrum they would have to divest would render the buyout useless.

I already know they couldn't afford to buy another company at the moment. Read the end of my post. 😉