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TMO 4G

texmarvin

Jan 19, 2012, 9:22 PM
Does anybody know if T Mobile's 4G is seperate from the 1700 mhz WCDMA 3G network or a quicker version of 3G for 4G enabled devices I have the Mytouch 4G If this has been discussed before i apoligize
Thanks
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Joshiwa

Jan 20, 2012, 11:25 AM
T-mobile doesn't have 4G, they have HSPA+ which is just ramped up 3G. They called it 4G because AT&T used to call it that. Technically it is still a 3G network. LTE and WIMAX are they only 4G networks out there.

I don't blame T-mobile though for that, heck if you were possibly going to be bought out why spend all the cash to upgrade to LTE? Now that the deal fell through maybe they will start upgrading their network, and who knows they are probably already working on it.
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yourvoiceofreason

Jan 20, 2012, 9:04 PM
I wasn't going to comment on this, but was it not decided that HSPA+ (tech significantly faster than 3G) could be called 4G?

If that is the case, (which I know it is), why do people love to ignore that? People act as if that never happened.

That being said, I don't know the answer to the original question and was hoping to read the answer...but oh well..
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texmarvin

Jan 20, 2012, 11:44 PM
thanks i sort of figured it may be high octaine 3G but wanted other thoughts i was tinkering with settings and noticed that there is no mention of "3G" only WCDMA?GSM which i assume GSM is EDGE still very fast internet on "4G"
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Jayshmay

Feb 8, 2012, 3:30 AM
Fast? What sort of speeds are you getting on Tmo?
Please list which smartphone you use and where you live.
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texmarvin

Jan 20, 2012, 11:52 PM
yourvoiceofreason said:
I wasn't going to comment on this, but was it not decided that HSPA+ (tech significantly faster than 3G) could be called 4G?

If that is the case, (which I know it is), why do people love to ignore that? People act as if that never happened.

That being said, I don't know the answer to the original question and was hoping to read the answer...but oh well..


I do not want to start an argument but is there a chance that some people do not recognize HSPA+ as 4G because it is still WCDMA? And others see 4G as WIMAX and LTE
i am not a cell tech but i saaume they are different radio types just my thoughts
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yourvoiceofreason

Jan 21, 2012, 1:24 AM
Yeah I don't want to argue either and I understand what you are saying. And I am in no way trying to say HSPA+ is superior or the same as LTE/WIMAX. My point is simply that terms like 4G, 3G, etc are based on standards that are agreed to in the industry. And if those standards are changed or updated, then we should keep up with the changes.

For example, at one time LTE wasn't considered 4G (technically) until the speeds were to 100 Mbps. However, the industry has accepted current LTE speeds to be 4G. You will not rarely hear anyone say that Verizon's LTE isn't 4G (and compare that to current WIMAX, which is a lot slower, even at times slower than HSPA+ 42). So whether rightly or wrongly, it has been decided that HSPA+ can be called ...
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yourvoiceofreason

Jan 21, 2012, 1:28 AM
And because I did not proofread, and there is no "edit" button Mad ...I have to correct this...

I meant to say "You will rarely hear...."* (When typing, I changed the wording of the sentence and didnt erase the word "not"...sorry)
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Joshiwa

Jan 25, 2012, 5:10 PM
Your right, I read up on it a bit more and the ITU (International Telecommunications Union) recognizes HSPA+ as 4G. T-mobile is not in my area so there is little to no information for me to locally compare stuff, only management at my current employer to tell me. Thanks for peaking my interest to learn more on my own bro. Smile
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texmarvin

Mar 2, 2012, 1:44 PM
I have one more ?? Will the phone i have ...mytouch 4g htc non slide keyboard work with the 1900 mhz 4g or will it need an OTA updatew or a new phone to get 4g speeds as i think but not sure right now 1900 is EDGE only
thanks
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texmarvin

Mar 2, 2012, 1:48 PM
texmarvin said:
I have one more ?? Will the phone i have ...mytouch 4g htc non slide keyboard work with the 1900 mhz 4g or will it need an OTA updatew or a new phone to get 4g speeds as i think but not sure right now 1900 is EDGE only
thanks

Sorry Edge only for TMO I love this phone and plan on keeping it for a while and hope it will not be banished to EDGE only once the network changes are made 4G is very fast in Fort Worth TX
thanks again
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Stryphor

Apr 23, 2012, 11:26 PM
yourvoiceofreason said:
My point is simply that terms like 4G, 3G, etc are based on standards that are agreed to in the industry. It has been decided that HSPA+ can be called 4G because it has significant increases in speed to 3G. If that standard has been updated to accept this, then why can't people accept it too?...



THANK YOU! I would in no way say that it is superior to LTE, but as an AT&T rep, I am tired of arguing WITH OUR OWN CUSTOMERS that we do not have 4G!
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casador7

Feb 1, 2012, 12:22 AM
I have a question anybody can help. I bought a unlocked phone. My carrier is tmobile and the cell that I got is att. and i doesn't let send or received pictures
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Joshiwa

Feb 2, 2012, 1:29 PM
Is it an original iphone?
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Jellz

Feb 10, 2012, 3:41 PM
If you're using an AT&T cell on the T-Mobile network, you won't get 3G/4G speeds no matter what, since the T-Mobile 3G/4G network is in 1700MHz and the AT&T cells don't support that frequency (on purpose). It should still work for picture messages, since you do have 2G EDGE. Make sure that your account is set up right for the data connection, and that data is enabled in your phone's settings.
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ParagonAwesome

Apr 16, 2012, 3:53 PM
technically at&t uses 1700 and tmo uses 1700 and 2100 but your phone has to be set up for both which at&ts aren't
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Jon_Doh

Jun 16, 2012, 11:06 AM
T-Mobile's 4G is every bit as much 4G as Verizon's LTE says the International Cellular Standards Committee. That it is not real 4G is just propaganda put out by the Verizon Stormtroopers, which is ironic since Verizon never had real 3G, but only backhauled 2G.
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Jon_Doh

Oct 31, 2012, 8:15 AM
HSPA+ is officially 4G. There are three different technologies that are recognized as 4G by the International Telecommunications Standards Committee and HSPA+ is one of them. But good luck finding it. T-Mobile only has 4G in major metro areas and then the footprint seems to be rather small. They're mostly and Edge network as the description at Phonescoop says. They claim to have some 3G, but in all my travels I've yet to find it.
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ParagonAwesome

Nov 2, 2012, 10:10 AM
I've found t-mobile 3g service, but then I live in a metro area, but the refarming they're doing may help with 3g at least
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