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T-Mobile EDGE

HeroPsychoDreamer

Jan 23, 2005, 5:54 PM
I heard T-Mobile has EDGE in select markets only. Could anyone, if they know, let me know exactly which markets T-Mobile does have EDGE in, if at all? Thanks in advance!
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muchdrama

Jan 24, 2005, 11:37 AM
HeroPsychoDreamer said:
I heard T-Mobile has EDGE in select markets only. Could anyone, if they know, let me know exactly which markets T-Mobile does have EDGE in, if at all? Thanks in advance!
Um, I wasn't aware that Tmobile had EDGE up and running at all.
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HeroPsychoDreamer

Jan 24, 2005, 11:51 AM
Okay, I've found no solid info but it's rumored to be available in California, Idaho, and Oregon, nothing concrete but it's a start.

Rich Brome also stated that T-Mobile has EDGE coverage in select markets.
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muchdrama

Jan 24, 2005, 11:19 PM
HeroPsychoDreamer said:
Okay, I've found no solid info but it's rumored to be available in California, Idaho, and Oregon, nothing concrete but it's a start.

Rich Brome also stated that T-Mobile has EDGE coverage in select markets.
? Really?
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muchdrama

Jan 24, 2005, 11:22 PM
muchdrama said:
HeroPsychoDreamer said:
Okay, I've found no solid info but it's rumored to be available in California, Idaho, and Oregon, nothing concrete but it's a start.

Rich Brome also stated that T-Mobile has EDGE coverage in select markets.
? Really?
P.S. I've heard of tests going on in the upper Midwest, but available? No.
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NeumZ

Feb 28, 2005, 12:47 AM
prolly in the markets it shares with cingular and other roaming partners, they have edge up so if your roaming on that ttower my guess is that you will be using EDGE
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mingkee

Jan 24, 2005, 11:24 PM
CA first
then NY, IL, OH, FL, GA
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ygbhen

Feb 27, 2005, 11:12 PM
The correct answer is that T-Mobile has not chosen its path to 3G yet. The cakes in Germany will have to fork out some more cash to get everything going right. That is why Cingular had to purchase AT&T. They need the spectrum to support it. Why else would Cingular be selling them their old 1900 California network and jump onto the UMTS AT&T network.
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MobilePaddy

Feb 28, 2005, 1:46 AM
Yes they have.

Dec 10, 2004: T-Mobile USA CEO Robert Dotson yesterday went on record saying that while T-Mobile will build a UTMS (3G) network, he does not see that happening in the next two years. Mr. Dotson also noted that T-Mobile has a $2.64 billion budget for buying additional spectrum, something the company must purchase before 3G can even be on the radar screen.

T-Mobile should also start to launch EDGE in select markets starting next year (2005).


http://www.mobiletracker.net/archives/2004/12/10/tmo ... »
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muchdrama

Feb 28, 2005, 10:30 AM
MobilePaddy said:
Yes they have.

Dec 10, 2004: T-Mobile USA CEO Robert Dotson yesterday went on record saying that while T-Mobile will build a UTMS (3G) network, he does not see that happening in the next two years. Mr. Dotson also noted that T-Mobile has a $2.64 billion budget for buying additional spectrum, something the company must purchase before 3G can even be on the radar screen.

T-Mobile should also start to launch EDGE in select markets starting next year (2005).


http://www.mobiletracker.net/archives/2004/12/10/tmo ... » you love it when someone paid attention to teacher during the discussion concerning references? Facts, people! Facts!
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wdunn2626

Feb 28, 2005, 8:37 PM
T-Mobile will deploy EDGE in most major markets (if any are remaining due to some up being up and running) in September 05.
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mingkee

Feb 28, 2005, 9:57 PM
there's nothing bad for delaying/passing UMTS
look at C's UMTS, very limited markets, handsets, coverage
UMTS is getting more mature in both Europe and Asia, not America
without T-Mobile US in the UMTS game, the handset manufacturers are unwilling to sell the product, and even C wouldn't dump a lot of money on it
HSDPA, on the other hand, is more likely to get deployed by both C and T in 2006-2010
once T joins HSDPA game, handset manufacturers are more gladly to produce product
let's look back early GSM age in America, only Voicestream played the game, and handset manufacturers were less likely to add 1900 on 900/1800 product, the scene changed after ATT and Cingular joined GSM game
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Xzavier21

Feb 28, 2005, 9:14 AM
not in Oregon, and tmobile hasn't told me anything about it, yet (sometimes CSR's are last to know)
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JDigital

Feb 28, 2005, 11:40 PM
Actually, I'm in Oregon, and I've just started working as an RSR with T-Mobile this week after a couple years in indirect. According to my manager the Portland, Oregon market is actually going to be the launch market for EDGE, although he didn't say when.
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muchdrama

Mar 1, 2005, 11:16 AM
JDigital said:
Actually, I'm in Oregon, and I've just started working as an RSR with T-Mobile this week after a couple years in indirect. According to my manager the Portland, Oregon market is actually going to be the launch market for EDGE, although he didn't say when.
Aren't you the lucky boy.
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Xzavier21

Mar 1, 2005, 2:03 PM
SWEET, but still not here..... or available yet.
I hear tv on phone and video conferencing is coming to wireless tech as well but is not here now
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mingkee

Jan 24, 2005, 8:43 PM
there's a clue
nokia 3220 International will come to T
and 3220 supports EDGE
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?s=&thread ... »
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guitarman21

Jan 25, 2005, 9:39 PM
From WSJ 1/17/05:

Finally, T-Mobile USA Inc., a unit of Deutsche Telekom AG, continues to rely solely on Wi-Fi for high-speed data. The company has deployed that technology in more than 5,000 locations, mostly Starbucks coffee shops and airport lounges. Chief Executive Robert Dotson recently said the carrier has no immediate plans to offer higher-speed data access anywhere on its current cellular network, and doesn't see deploying 3G services for at least two years. While other carriers are rushing ahead, a spokesman adds, T-Mobile takes the position that "3G technologies are still relatively immature."

For now, the carrier is upgrading its cellular network to a technology called EDGE, which provides wireless Web access, but at speeds ...
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mingkee

Jan 25, 2005, 10:06 PM
with class 8 or up (4:1)
I can get 120-160k dl, which is more than enough to run shoutcast-ogg server from my home @64k
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terryjohnson16

Jan 25, 2005, 11:31 PM
How fast is Class 4 EDGE? Class 4 EDGE is in the new Motorola V635. Is there a website that list the class speeds of GPRS and EDGE?
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mingkee

Jan 26, 2005, 8:03 PM
EDGE class matrix is same as GPRS
class 4 is 3:1
class 6 is 3:1 or 2:2
class 8 is 4:1
class 10 is 4:1 or 3:2
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jmallx

Jan 26, 2005, 8:34 PM
Ok, now the question is (class 4 for example)
3:1 what? What does the ratio give you?
also, please state whether the DL speed is in kbits or Kbytes

Thanks



EDGE class matrix is same as GPRS
class 4 is 3:1
class 6 is 3:1 or 2:2
class 8 is 4:1
class 10 is 4:1 or 3:2
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mingkee

Jan 26, 2005, 9:35 PM
the reason I don't give speed is the speed is given per timeslot, and it's provider dependent
then if EDGE speed is 40k per timeslot, and class 4 is 3:1, then the speed of class 4 is 120:40k
and the speed per timeslot differs by provider, it's said ATT (Cing blue) EDGE is faster than Cing native, because the given speed per timeslot is different
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terryjohnson16

Jan 26, 2005, 10:57 PM
😳 That is crazy! The reason I am asking is because if I get an EDGE phone in the future, I want to know specifically how fast it will be on T-Mobile's upcoming EDGE network or any other network. Currently, I have a Samsung E715 and when I used that phone as a modem last year, it had an average Dial-Up speed. Since, EDGE is suppose to be a MAJOR upgrade for GPRS, I atleast hope it will be super fast. I know the Nokia 6230 has Class 10 EDGE and Class 10 GPRS, now thats fast. On this website it says the speed "EGPRS (EDGE)class 10 (4+1 or 3+2) GPRS and EGPRS / speeds up to 236.8 Kbit/s with EDGE" Now, thats fast. I hope the new EDGE phones are that fast.
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jmallx

Jan 26, 2005, 11:32 PM
Its not as fast as you think.
236 / 8 = 29.5 KBytes
Which will be a MAXimum speed.
Im guessing you will get around 15-20 KBytes in the real world.
About what an ISDN connection back in 1992 would give you.

I really want to get a Tmobile phone (and ditch this POS Mpx200) but I want Bluetooth, hi speed data option, and a clamshell case cause I'm clumsy and can admit it. Also, the 1,000 min plan for $46 beats out all the other carriers.
If there are any Tmobile reps out there reading this, please please pick up the Moto V635.




That is crazy! The reason I am asking is because if I get an EDGE phone in the future, I want to know specifically how fast it will be on T-Mobile's upcoming EDGE network or any other network. Currently, ...
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terryjohnson16

Jan 26, 2005, 11:39 PM
Why did you divide 236 by 8?
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jmallx

Jan 27, 2005, 12:05 AM
terryjohnson16 said:
Why did you divide 236 by 8?


236 was kilobits (kb)
There are 8 bits to a byte
Little b means bits, BIG B means Bytes

For example my 3MBit (megabit) Comcast connect maxes out at around 380KB (KiloBytes)

3,000 / 8 = 375 KB
3,072 / 8 = 384 KB

I don't know if Comcast considers a megabit 1,000 kbits or 1,024 kbits. Hence the 3,000 and 3,072 (1,024 * 3 = 3,072)

When I used a download manager (download accelerator) and open up several connections to an FTP site for large files I max out at approx 380 KB which is 3Megabits.

Hope that explains it.
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terryjohnson16

Jan 27, 2005, 12:41 AM
😁 Thanks! I forgot about the 8 bits=1 Byte.
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