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Slow movin towards 3G

Byrd

Sep 12, 2007, 12:54 PM
Why are we taking so long to make the switch!!! This is taking so long and i would love to see some change in the network. Even working 4 the company we only get rumors about when we are getting some 3G. Any one got any more info????????



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nextel18

Sep 12, 2007, 1:25 PM
Because they just got spectrum during the AWS auction and it takes time to clear the spectrum to make it usable on their networks. Next steps are to talk to the vendors and manufactures both devices and chipsets to allow for that 3G spectrum to put onto the network. The next step is to talk to the infrastructure equipment companies so that they can modify and add any equipment onto those towers to allow for the 3G spectrum to work. After that, they need to think in which networks they want to do it in as a trial or just as a commercial release. Finally, to turn it on. HSPA and the next generation HSPA families are actually considered to be 4G so T-mobile is not that far behind. They only have 26 million customers so even though they do not h...
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Byrd

Sep 12, 2007, 4:43 PM
Thats what all our T mobile inside talk say but no one ever really backs it up. Hopefully like u say late 07 ( nov - dec ) or early 08



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nextel18

Sep 12, 2007, 6:12 PM
Well when T-mobile didn’t have 3G spectrum they still mentioned similar time frames, but obviously they couldn’t even deploy it since they didn’t have the spectrum. Now they do, and everyone knows it takes a long time to clear spectrum and the other workings to putting it on the networks and launching devices for it, so now we will see a lot of changes. I have been told those dates are solid. Their Myfaves continues to do well so big things to come for T-mobile in the future.
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mingkee

Sep 12, 2007, 9:02 PM
there're more and more signs for preparing 3G
Total Internet price goes down by $10, I see the intention, that they want to sell more instead of set higher price to get higher ARPU
if 3G internet set on too high price point, nobody would buy, that'll be lose-lose
but the new price is win-win
more AWS 3G devices leaked
samsung T639 and nokia 6263 passed FCC, and listed for October release, and more devices spotted (nokia 3555, 6500 slider, Juno, and possible Z750t)
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nextel18

Sep 12, 2007, 9:20 PM
Well their data ARPU is pretty high considered they are only offering 2.5G data and their voice ARPU wow, talk about expansion. Last time I looked I think they were in the 58 range, which is pretty close to Sprint’s . very impressive. It is obviously showing that customers are wanting to pay more now for their services instead of just basic plans. The reason for selling their 2.5G data for less is to still offer those customers who want it at a reasonable price but obviously as you noted preparing for the launch of 3G. they will still sell 2.5G devices just to continue to try to exhaust all efforts and revenue until they move up to the 3G devices. Every carrier and manufacturer does that. Business 101. Their trends have usually set tha...
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mingkee

Sep 12, 2007, 9:36 PM
you should look back to mid 2003, when T-Mobile introduced unlimited T-Mobile for $19.99, this was 1/4 price of all other carriers, even though it was just 56k speed (ATTWS just introduced EDGE, Cingular was still 56k)
same situation will happen again when T-mobile launched UMTS
though Sprint has SERO, tethering is not allowed, same as at&t MEdia Net
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ethanb123

Sep 12, 2007, 11:04 PM
Another thing a lot of people over look is T-mobile's tendency to be kinder to the smaller markets. While, obviously, the initial 3G launch will have gaps, it is likely that the service will eventually cover more areas than other carriers' 3G services. For example, I'm located in an area where nearly all other carriers have skipped over when it comes to high speed data. (look up zip code 83201 on any carriers coverage maps) My understanding is that this will not be the case with T-mobile, of course, no one REALLY knows anything for sure. My guess is this is part of the reason for the delays.
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nextel18

Sep 13, 2007, 8:43 AM
What a great point to bring up. Kudos to you. So what is your bottom line conclusion?
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mingkee

Sep 13, 2007, 9:32 PM
I wanted to point T-Mobile has pretty great price for tethered data, but the trade-off is kinda old technology, and limited coverage (though it's expanding pretty quickly)
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nextel18

Sep 13, 2007, 9:52 PM
The problem is, that is the technology they have, so they have to offer better pricing even if it costs them a bit more to deploy it. That will change obviously with the 3G network. T-mobile has always been smart with their price points. Obviously since they can’t beat the carriers on the network size and capacity so they undercut them.

I know, and I was giving you kudos for providing great information and proving your premise.
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