The Truth About "Unlimited" Roaming
Now, in the case of Verizon wireless, they are admittedly far less strict with their roaming policy. That doesn't mean however, they would allow someone to constantly roam 24/7 for months and months at a time. Why? Simply put, there's no money in it. For all of the arguments and rationalizations to the contrary, Verizon is in business to make a profit. If it's costing them more to keep a subscriber than that person is creating in revenue, they're history! Ladies and gentlemen, it's just simple mathematics.
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I keep saying that.
THERE ISN'T.
I have a friend whose dad was Air Force, they have Verizon from when they lived in the lower 48 8 years ago.
They were sent to Alaska, he retired there.
Guess what. THEY STILL HAVE VERIZON.
Call them, go to a store, they will tell you, there is no cut off limit for Roaming on Verizon, not even a little.
Right now, Verizon is making enought to pay the charges off.
They are a CDMA Roaming Partner and a GSM Roaming Partner.
SHOW me where you see Verizon has a limit on there Roaming usage?
You can't, because they DON'T.
BTW, like the Crono.
They prefer to only call it roaming when it induces extra charges.
If you have a North American Plan, its also called "Extended Network".
If you dont have a North American Plan, and go to Mexico or Canada, it will show up on your phone as "Roaming".
Verizon does NOT kick, boot, cut off, suspend, what ever you wanna call it, anyone off there network for too much Roaming usage.
no where does it say they will.
not at all.
1st, you would not be on Sprints network.
you would be on Alltel's.
Verizon owns Alltel in that state.
EVDO and all.
even if it were Sprint, they would allow you to use all data, messaging, and mins how ever long you wish.
Even Unlimited Calling has no cut of point.. hint the clue "Truly Unlimited Calling".
And I'm tempted to move to Nebraska and do just that, because Verizon would lose their asses if there was no cut off.
Sprint is not.
I think you are geting NE and Kansas mixed up..
But, Alltel/Verizon is the prime carrier in NE, then it's US Cellular Corp.
Sprint roams in 90% of the state.
And Verizon would not loose it.
THEY OWN TOWERS IN Nebraska!
ALLTEL's Towers!
Verizon DOES not have a set Roaming allowance.
Its FREE in the US and is UNLIMITED in the US.
AT&Ts, Sprints, T-Mobiles is FREE but not UNLIMITED.
Why?
Because we don't have a cut off point for Roaming.
Now, Smart @$$, you go show ME where it says anything about a cut off?
You CAN'T! There is nothing about it because there is NO cut off point.
Call them or go to a store, they will tell you there is no cut off point.
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anarchy said:
For VZW to cut someone off due to roaming, it would have to be in the terms and conditions. Its Not. VZW will never term someone for roaming too much in the USA.
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IT IS in their T&C's. It's called a "reasonable usage" clause. Roaming 24/7 365 isn't reasonable usage.
There is no "reasonable usage" clause. There is a clause about using the phone for illegal activities and the like, but not for roaming too often. The reason being is that verizon's "extended network" coverage is shrinking because of verizons native coverage (check their new prepaid maps... that is native coverage) Customers cannot roam off network enough to cost the company money. So in the US it IS "unlimited" and there is no "reasonable usage."
they won't.
Because they can afford these things.
Unlike Sprint who seems to have more Roaming geo wise, not saying pop wise, can not afford it. Along with AT&T who can't eather.
Verizon has no reasonable usage thing on any of there Nation Wide Plans for Roaming or Usage.
Unlimited Calling, Texting, and Web has no "Reasonable Usage" thing as well.
And there is a post about this, see https://www.phonescoop.com/carriers/forum.php ?fm=m&ff=4&fi=2019438.
Verizon has the largest mobile network in the US.
Native Coverage which covers 98% of the US population.
They really do not have a problem of too much Roaming sense there will be little to find now because of the Alltel and Unicel merge.
When Sprint Roams, its usually on Alltel or Verizon.
90% of there Roaming is on Verizon now because we own Alltel.
7% is US Cellular, then the 3% is from the other smaller networks.
They do roam. But while verizon roams on a tower or two here or there, they don't have entire states that they have to roam off of another carrier (alltel) anymore. They do roam in some places, but those areas are either too small, or too spread out from one another to matter. I could see them possibly refusing to upgrade a contract if someone moves to the middle of nowhere and roams 24/7, but there is nothing in the contract that says they will cancel your service for anything but illegal...
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Menno said:...
Verizon has the largest native network.. What is a native network? Look at a companies pre-pay service. The higher % of their "normal" map that is also on the prepay map means more of their listed coverage is native, meaning controlled by Verizon.
They do roam. But while verizon roams on a tower or two here or there, they don't have entire states that they have to roam off of another carrier (alltel) anymore. They do roam in some places, but those areas are either too small, or too spread out from one another to matter. I could see them possibly refusing to upgrade a contract if someone moves to the middle of nowhere and roams 24/7, but there is nothing in the contract that says they will cancel your
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But, I have a friend up there who has Verizon from when they lived in the lower 48s 6 years ago.
They are able to upgrade there phones and everything.
Now for those stupid people who say they will cut you off, they don't.
We are not like AT&T and cut you off.
Verizon Wireless makes more rev each year then your crapy service so Verizon doesnt need to worry about it.
That kinda defeats your point, doesn't it?
Oh, and they list alaska as "roaming" on their maps, but roaming only pertains to regional plans (no longer offered) and prepay plans.
You keep arguing a theoretical "could" but there is no evidence to say that they do, or that they will. In fact, there is plenty of evidence to the contrary.
Menno said:
And people move to alaska and keep their cell service.
That kinda defeats your point, doesn't it?
Oh, and they list alaska as "roaming" on their maps, but roaming only pertains to regional plans (no longer offered) and prepay plans.
You keep arguing a theoretical "could" but there is no evidence to say that they do, or that they will. In fact, there is plenty of evidence to the contrary.
I know people who have moved to areas VZW doesn't service, like Birchwood, TN. and guess what? Verizon canceled them.
Basically, your entire belief is flawed because it's based on an argument from silence. Regardless of what you and others say to the contrary, NO wireless company will continue ...
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You have no idea how Verizon runs. Keep to your AT&T because you know they will kick you off there network for too much Roaming.
Verizon makes more money off of Roaming then they do paying for it.
menno said:
...while verizon roams on a tower or two here or there, they don't have entire states that they have to roam off of another carrier (alltel) anymore...
So... What he posted isn't true.
I guess you didn't read it.
Menno said:
Actually it's NOT in their T&C.. There is a Roaming section, but that is for Grandfathered plans, since it talks about home zones, something that does not exist on modern plans.
There is no "reasonable usage" clause. There is a clause about using the phone for illegal activities and the like, but not for roaming too often. The reason being is that verizon's "extended network" coverage is shrinking because of verizons native coverage (check their new prepaid maps... that is native coverage) Customers cannot roam off network enough to cost the company money. So in the US it IS "unlimited" and there is no "reasonable usage."
Two places you would roam all of the time with Verizon: Telli ...
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WE CAN, WITHOUT NOTICE, LIMIT, SUSPEND OR END YOUR SERVICE OR ANY AGREEMENT WITH YOU FOR THIS OR ANY OTHER GOOD CAUSE, including, but not limited to: (i) if you: (a) breach this agreement; (b) pay late more than once in any 12 months; (c) incur charges larger than a required deposit or billing limit (even if we haven't yet billed the charges); (d) provide credit information we can't verify; (e) become insolvent or go bankrupt;...
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You are arguing for a specific policy. if it was that much of an issue, it would be written into contract.
Menno said:
that means they can also cancel your service because they don't like your gravatar.
You are arguing for a specific policy. if it was that much of an issue, it would be written into contract.
The purpose and point of this thread is there is no such thing as unlimited roaming, regardless of what anyone says or thinks. No company can continue making money while someone is roaming 24/7. Whether I'm arguing a specific policy or not is neither here nor there, and doesn't change the reality that Verizon can cancel folks for any reason- including roaming too much.
That has NOTHING to do with Roaming.
If your too lazy to call Verizon and get the real information, stop running you mouth until you get your info right.
He said it covers roaming because it says "including but not limited to" Which while this technically COULD be the case, it is highly unlikely since excessive roaming would be something clearly listed so people could not contest it with how lawsuit happy people are.
Oh, and by the way, Sprint uses the same "including, but not limited to" verbiage in their terms and c...
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Azeron said:
I'm sorry but where did this come from? What I mean is, "What's the point of this post?" Were you affected in some way? Contract cancelled by Verizon?
What service do you have?