So is everyone saying that Cingular's phones are no good? Granted, the 5165 days weren't cutting edge and a lot of the new "free phones" are sub-par, but they're making strides. I use the Nokia 6200 and I love it. And Cingular's pushing ahead--they're the first GSM carrier to put out the Treo 600, so they can't be THAT far behind the times.

Maybe I'm biased because I sell their products. I just don't think they're THAT bad. I'll take my 6200 over a 5165 or timeport any day.

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