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Good news for customers wanting to switch from Verizon

gjh1978

Jan 16, 2007, 11:44 AM
Credit for the article goes to http://cellphones.engadget.com



Verizon increases SMS rates -- customers now free of their contracts
Posted Jan 12th 2007 3:25PM by Donald Melanson
Filed under: Cellphones

It looks like Verizon Wireless is following in Sprint's SMS footsteps, announcing a planned hike in text messaging rates for those not currently subscribed to a messaging package. The hike, which will take effect March 1st, will bump the cost of sending a text message to the U.S., Puerto Rico, Canada and Mexico from $0.10 to $0.15 per message, with the price for international text messages remaining at $0.25 per message. The cost of receiving a message from customers of foreign wireless carriers, however, will increase to $0.15 whe...
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Matt_a

Jan 16, 2007, 1:12 PM
Dang. It won't happen until at least March 1st. I'll be out from under Verizon by Feb 10th. I was hoping I could go tomorrow. 😛
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chocolateman85006

Jan 16, 2007, 1:43 PM
Their reception is the best, but Cingular's CS is much better.
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Hayate

Jan 16, 2007, 3:29 PM
Verizon's CS must really suck then @_@

Honestly, the worst thing about Cingular is the customer service line. Every time I call I get some idiot that has no idea what they're doing or some rude a-hole that just wants to give me a hard time for no good reason. I hate our CS @_@
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chocolateman85006

Jan 16, 2007, 3:44 PM
They do! T-mobile & Amp'd CS sucks too.
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Hayate

Jan 16, 2007, 3:57 PM
I think the lesson here is that all CS just sucks. I had to deal with Alltel's CS before and they weren't bad when you actually talked to someone but their hold time was ridiculous.
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chocolateman85006

Jan 16, 2007, 4:03 PM
Don't even get me started on those SMF's!!
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xyzpdq123456

Jan 16, 2007, 5:18 PM
i have waited on hold for alltels customer service all the time! My longest wait was 48 min and my shortest was 3 min!!
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chocolateman85006

Jan 16, 2007, 7:10 PM
They made my contract into 36 months. WTF??!! I let them take me to collections because there's no wat i'll be stuck th them for 3 ------ years!!!
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jennymarie1721

Jan 16, 2007, 7:18 PM
I'm a cingular sales rep, and i have to agree, our cs isnt good. They like to transfer customers over to our sales line with problems that they should be fixing.
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chocolateman85006

Jan 16, 2007, 7:39 PM
They like to hang up on we Warranty reps. Them, and Telesales.
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switchy85

Jan 17, 2007, 1:53 PM
I can attest to this. If I get one more cust care rep calling me with questions about THEIR job and asking me for help I'm gunna kill someone. 👿
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captainplooky

Jan 16, 2007, 3:36 PM
Interesting that Sprint (and soon Verizon) have not and will not brow beat their customers into believing they are not allowed to cancel the contract at this time should they choose to.

Remember that ... I remember just like it was yesterday (cue flashback music)

https://www.phonescoop.com/carriers/forum.php?fm=m&f ... »

I think this speaks volumes about the "quality" ( or lack thereof) of Cingular.
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ralph_on_me

Jan 16, 2007, 3:43 PM
I think it's funny, but I don't think it has to do with quality. It's two companies saying they don't want to deal with the headache it's going to cause and one company saying they're willing to deal with the headache.

It shows stubbornness, that's for sure.
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rytr23

Jan 16, 2007, 7:30 PM
lol.. or perhaps they knew the name change was coming so they let the "Cingular" brand take the hit in the hopes that people would forget it once the ATT moniker was out there.. 🙂
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ralph_on_me

Jan 16, 2007, 7:51 PM
wouldn't be such a bad idea!

I've certainly heard of crazier things.
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captainplooky

Jan 17, 2007, 7:54 AM
You might be right.

I believe the decision was reached with malice and greed being the overriding factors.
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texaswireless

Jan 17, 2007, 1:14 PM
So is the decision to rip off the small business person who is paying to subsidize your handset when you have no intention to honor your agreement.

But you think that is just fine.
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captainplooky

Jan 17, 2007, 1:48 PM
Wtf are you talking about?

Treating every single consumer as a potential thief who is incapable of fulfilling their obligations is just silly and will only hurt your business in the long run.

Like I said before, and you seemed to gloss over it, perhaps the problem lies with your business model and with Cingular if you are unable to recoup costs in such cases, and not with the vast majority of consumers who fulfill their obligations.

Nevertheless, thanks for the giggle at your randomness in this thread.
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texaswireless

Jan 17, 2007, 1:52 PM
Please name one other business model where subsidies are offered with no contract attached to recoup costs.

You can reply in the original thread for this discussion. I posted here to point out your hypocrisy.
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captainplooky

Jan 17, 2007, 2:18 PM
The contract is not my contention.

Purchasing a product, fulfilling the obligations of the contract (either by completion or via the ETF), and then being restricted from using the product further is what I have contention with.

Calling people that unlock phones "bad guys" (euphemism for criminal) is but a demonstration of the "land grab" that companies like Cingular are trying to make in regards to "fair use" rights consumers have had for years. The rights of which are called into question with the DMCA in many regards.

What is happening is that there are some people who do not fulfill the terms of their contract to the agreement of both parties.

I acknowledge this. However, simply because these people exist does not justify re...
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texaswireless

Jan 17, 2007, 2:54 PM
Your contention is based on a false premise.

If you truly are making this argument and not trying to just be an ass then I agree completely with you. I am also telling you that Cingular allows you to unlock your handset to use as you will.

Why do we have to show ID when we write a check or use a credit card.

Why do we have to do anything that requires security?

Because people abuse the system. The good thing is that Cingular allows their subsidy lock to be removed.
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jinanddevil

Jan 21, 2007, 9:06 PM
They are incresing rates to cover their asses. Not because of greed. They dont turn much of a profit off of text pay per use. Aggrements with the companies who admin these pay-per-use texts and supply the technology for it determine pay-per-use rates. Why do you think everybody's prices are going up around the same time. Contracted cell towers are the name of the game and the companies who have agreements with cingular for text charge cingular and other companies for bulk use. If cingular can contract its customers to pay for a "bucket" of text it is easier to keep track of and keep cingular profitable. After all they are in business to make money. If a customer is opting to not have a text plan and send 2 or 3000 text in a month not only ar...
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Crapbag

Jan 20, 2007, 8:29 PM
captainplooky said:
I think this speaks volumes about the "quality" ( or lack thereof) of Cingular.



https://www.phonescoop.com/carriers/forum.php?fm=m&f ... »

Looks like we aren't in this boat alone!
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captainplooky

Jan 21, 2007, 10:59 PM
Yes, I must admit 🤭 I have seen a few complaints in regards to it.

I obviously spoke too soon.

Let me revise my statement:

I think this speaks volumes about the "quality" ( or lack thereof) of wireless industry.
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