Cingular sponsors cruel rodeo events. Rodeo promoters say that the animals are wild and rough, but without the use of spurs, tail-twisting, and bucking straps cinched tightly around their abdomen and groin, these frightened and often docile animals wouldn't even buck. They are terrorized into action when men shove electric prods into them, twist their necks, yank them by their tails or legs, slam them to the ground, or otherwise batter them. The fact that most of these innocent animals are eventually destined for the slaughterhouse in no way justifies compounding their agony along the way.
Often, the animals' injuries are internal. Dr. C.G. Haber, a veterinarian who worked for 30 years as a meat inspector in slaughterhouses, saw scores o...
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gunnyNov 25, 2006, 1:25 PM
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Typical hippy response.
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Now, I understand where you're coming from with this animal cruelty thing. Yes, it is awful for such things to happen to animals who otherwise could have lived a natural, normal life away from humans...and perhaps we shouldn't allow it.
But don't you think you're going about this the wrong way? I don't think Cingular supports animal cruelty as much as they support themselves by promoting their image through a popular medium like a sporting event.
If you honestly thought about animal cruelty and how to put a stop to it, you would think through things more logically before blindly following what certain extremists do and say.
Would it not make more sense to get to the root of the matter (say maybe, the actual rodeo operators), as oppo...
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RUFF1415 said:
Now, I understand where you're coming from with this animal cruelty thing. Yes, it is awful for such things to happen to animals who otherwise could have lived a natural, normal life away from humans...and perhaps we shouldn't allow it.
But don't you think you're going about this the wrong way? I don't think Cingular supports animal cruelty as much as they support themselves by promoting their image through a popular medium like a sporting event.
If you honestly thought about animal cruelty and how to put a stop to it, you would think through things more logically before blindly following what certain extremists do and say.
Would it not make more sense to get to the root of the matter (say maybe, t
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crxtreme89 said:
RUFF1415 said:
Now, I understand where you're coming from with this animal cruelty thing. Yes, it is awful for such things to happen to animals who otherwise could have lived a natural, normal life away from humans...and perhaps we shouldn't allow it.
But don't you think you're going about this the wrong way? I don't think Cingular supports animal cruelty as much as they support themselves by promoting their image through a popular medium like a sporting event.
If you honestly thought about animal cruelty and how to put a stop to it, you would think through things more logically before blindly following what certain extremists do and say.
Would it not make more sense to get to
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As much as I disagree with the OP, he is going about it the right way. Nothing can happen without money. Where does the money come from? Sponsers of course. Boycott the sponsers and pretty soon, no more event.
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Boycott the sponsors and what do you end up with? Oh! New sponsors!
Do you really believe that a significant amount of Americans are going to find enough value in this "issue" to actually boycott a company of Cingular's size...and have an impact?
No.
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Wow, animal cruelty sucks! Do you eat meat? If so you support animal cruelty. Why don't you put a jihad on billions of people for supporting animal cruelty by eating meat. Slaughter Houses are not cruelty free either idiot.
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sorry i didn't mean to call you an idiot but it is ironic to point blame at one company for animal cruelty when it is so common everywhere.
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Eating meat is not animal cruelty. You are right, we should all hunt our own meat legally. Unfortunately we do not all have the option to do so.
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How is eating meat not animal cruelty? dunking chickens into electrified water then plucking the feathers off while some are still alive isn't animal cruelty? The whole "farming" process of most meats is very cruel and the policy for non cruel slaughter houses is regulated by the govt and there is no way to put the word uncruel into the process.
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why are all of you jumping on this guy/gal because of what they believe in, its absolutely nothing wrong w/ pointing out something as far as animal cruelty, are the majority of people in these forums a bunch of extreme neo-conservative, bush-lovin right-wingers,
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because he beleive that what wmuboy beleives in is unfair and that doesn't make him a neo-con (which actually isn't a true conservative right-winger)
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I'm just havin some fun come'on! I disagree with animal cruelty, but at the same time the whole fast food industry and farming industry is much more guilty than cingular. I think if you are going to point fingers you should start with the worst offenders and work your way down the long list.
In Costa Rica, they have a strict policy to not hurt animals in rodeos. Maybe they should start a policy to protect the animals and advocate that rather than saying don't support cingular.
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i would have to agree plus a cellphone company and animals are too totally unrelated things, lol
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Exactly, which is why the original poster smells of troll! Although his post is a lot better than typical troll postings if only because of the creativity. 🙂
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you are an unreal human being
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This has to be the dumbest post I have seen in my 2 years on here but it still is funny 🤣
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I won't watch any tv station because kfc advertises on it and they kill millions of chickens a year! No more TV No more TV!!!!! for that matter I am boycotting every grocery store that sells meat because they support animal cruelty. And I think I'll ban houses too because they use wood and wood comes from forests and deforestation is bad.
And after that I am going to ban all traditional farming because it destroys ecosystems and migration paths for 100's of species, and after that I am going to die because there is no way to be alive if I act this way!
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y are u shunning any type of activism, if something is wrong, its someone's duty to point it out, i guess yall all are a bunch of narrowminded, nature-hating, polluting neo-cons, i swear i hate that.
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I'm not, I'm just saying that some people take their activism a little too far.
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cremzNov 26, 2006, 1:52 PM
It's not that we hate nature...we have to embrace it and we sacrifice integrity in order to simplify life and costs. Human nature and especially economics have forced us to find cheaper alternatives to harvesting meats. What I believe chainsaw was arguing is that it is morally relevant what cingular is doing (supporting bull riding) however there is worse. Then you would also have to argue then It would also be equally morally wrong for Nextel supporting NASCAR, because they not only burn up a good supply of national oil and gas, but they also promote pollution and fast, unsafe driving. I am curious for responses.
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thats a good point. no one should use nextel..oh wait there is a cingular car. damnit!
The part about cheap methods of harvesting meats is sad because it is true and because the world could be much more sustainably fed on plant based foods. Meat should only be consumed in times of famine.
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Does that not mean that Nextel supports animal cruelty as well? - supporting the cingular car?
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Oh wow I just thought of a good one.
Nextel supports fossil fuel consumption through their sponsorship of nascar-
Fossil fuels come from the middle east-
Terrorists get funding from oil profits-
Nextel supports terrorism. Don't buy nextel.
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chainsaw said:
Oh wow I just thought of a good one.
Nextel supports fossil fuel consumption through their sponsorship of nascar-
Fossil fuels come from the middle east-
Terrorists get funding from oil profits-
Nextel supports terrorism. Don't buy nextel.
PFFT! Who buys Nextel anyway? 🙄
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cremzNov 26, 2006, 3:08 PM
Not bad at all 😁 good logic
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thats like saying that cingular supports cruelty to humans because they sponsor ncaa football or sprint the same because they sponsor the nfl i mean come on get a life think of real valid reason to bash companys before you open your mouth
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***takes a deep breath***
Cingular hater.... 🙄 That's all...
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Thats the job i want. I want to be a high payed mudslinger who simply looks for ways to defame a corperation and spread the twisted truth. Lord knows there are enough people out there waiting for a cause.
Wouldn't this post have made more sense in one of our competitors forums? It would probably have gotten a better responce.
By the way if your hiring let me know.
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Personally, I think you're being sort of a weenie about this whole thing. Being raised in the south, I've actually done quite a bit of bull riding. And it's not really cruel. I could say that your company hates the environment because they use non-recycled paper and hurt trees.
Come on, give me a break.
Second, why wouldn't Cingular ADVERTISE in the PBR industry. It's one of the most watched sports on TV today. And that's exactly what it is...ADVERTISING. That's what companies do. Now I could understand if they went around and tortured calves by burning them alive or something like that...you'd probably have a reason to complain. But to take a legit industry and turn it around and gripe on a cell phone forum is absolutely bab...
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First of all, this is the dumbest post I've ever seen on a mobile communication site.
Second of all, don't knock anything until you've been around it. The rodeo has a huge history and ends up hurting more people than animals anyway!
Third, this is the dumbest post I've ever seen!!
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Rodeo animals don't use Cingular as it is now. Cingular is just trying to bulk up their net adds by hoping the bulls and steers get Cingular service.
It's a divine marketing plan indeed!
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Don't you mean a bovine marketing plan? 🤣
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Are you serious? Have you ever been behind the schutes? I doubt it.
I have raised quite a few steers that were used during roping events and I am currently in the process of raising a bull that will be used for bull riding.
Why would I invest thousands of dollars in breeding and vet bills if a bull rider is going to "puncture a lung of a bull with his 1'' spur"? GET REAL
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So this is an interesting topic. We have views from the left and from the right with suggestions on social policy coming from both sides. I gathered a mutual theme throughout the post regarding priority. The argument was made that if we decide that animals used in rodeos are being treated unfairly and or abused then policy could be made regarding sponsors (Cingular) or someone mentioned going higher to attack the real priority. This may be a stretch but if we are going for priority lets go for abortion. Now the premise must be made that humans are of a higher priority in terms of value of life than are animals. We can prove this by intellegence, consumption, life span...ect. With that base we can then priorize our efforts to combat abortion ...
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Since we have reason we are the only ones to determine "value" to anything. You could scale jump a little higher and say that humans are of a lower value to the health of the earth than say a cow or a chicken. In that case we should abort all pregnancies and terminate ourselves furthering the health of the planet.
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What kind of hippy crap is this? Who the hell cares if Cingular advertises at rodeos? What difference does it make? It doesn't affect the service or the end product that the consumer pays for. If this is the type of thing that influences your purchasing decisions, you're not too bright. Are you a vegitarian too? Or even worse, vegan?
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Hayate said:
What kind of hippy crap is this? Who the hell cares if Cingular advertises at rodeos? blockquote>
Why did you bring this old thread back to the top? 🙄 I thought we all had forgotten this already. Did you all other responses? Now, can we just let this one go??
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