Cingular vs. Verizon?
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GSM- Groupe Special Mobile/Global System for Mobile Communication
CDMA- Code division multiple access.
iDen- Integrated Digital Enhanced Network, made by motorola back in the day
GSM was implemented in 1991-92. CDMA was implemented in late 1995. iDen i'm not sure about.
In my opinion CDMA is the superior technology and also provides the most coverage out of any other technology in the United State...
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Either is good though some may say GSM is better while others swear CDMA is better. Only thing I can suggest is you try them both.
They are actually very similar in quality when the network is being used at the same capacity and signal strength is the same.
There are some people that say the fidelity (realness sounding) is better with GSM. But it really is a very negligible difference and it depends on the user. Different people report different things on that.
So really they are about the same as far as sound quality goes. There are some local carriers that build their networks poorly and give both technologies a bad name. Often this will cause people to swear that one is "terrible" while the other is "awesome". With Verizon and Alltel build their networks extremely well and this isn't really a problem with them. Sprint is a little different beca...
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CDMA is in more then just a few small countries. The only reason that it has not caught in Europe is because they decide to not allow CDMA and make GSM a standard for the continent. This eliminates the potential for competition.
The concept of CDMA is the superior technology compared to GSM. But because of, as you said the R&D from international sources it has better phones and is much quicker at getting the latest features, GSM has a bigger future because of this. GSM itself is not going to get much greater, but UMTS, WDCMA are. For CDMA it will likely be OFDMA.
Cingular's claim of fewest dropped calls is high...
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Firstly, where did you ever hear that CDMA is better suited to data? That's completely untrue. Neither technolgoy (GSM or CDMA) is technically "better" at data than the other. And as far as WCDMA goes, it does both voice and data simultaneously (as opposed to just data, as you stated).
Secondly, WCDMA utilizes the standard 850mhz and 1900mhz in the US, not the 2100mhz frequency.
Finally, your figures for GSM and CDMA users worldwide are entirely skewed. It honestly sounds as though you pulled most of your "information" out of thin air. How could GSM possibly have 23 billion subscribers worldwide when the world's population is hovering around 6.5 billion?
I think you're a...
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They rest of the world chose GSM because it is an older and more stable technology. It is also cheaper to implement because of the large number of people behind it. They will also soon be upgrading to UMTS or otherwise known as WCDMA. Because they will sending the signal across the frequency instead of wasting all the spectrum.
The only place without CDMA and with GSM is Europe. There are many countries that have implemented CDMA (ie India) and had to build a gsm overlay because of the cost. This is partly Qualcomm's fault because they charge too much for companies to use it.
I am in almost the exact same situation as you. My wife and I have both been Verizon customers for around 10 years now. I've always been very satisfies with the service, but I like the phone choices and "Roll-Over" offered by Cingular. About 2 months ago, my wife's work decided to provide her with a cell phone through the company. She had the option to chose the phone and carrier. After comparing many things, she decided on Cingular. She got an awesome phone and a good calling plan with "Roll-Over". She regrets every minute of it. 😢 She said the service is lousy compared to Verizon. She used to make calls from her VZ phone all day long from just about anywhere. Now she has to search for sweet spots. It's like she...
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What kind of statements are those?
That's a lie and you know it. Please! You make it sound like there was no Cingular service ANYWHERE. The totally unaware reader would think that Cingular has only 4 towers. One in the NE, SE, NW and SW of the USA. This reader right here is very aware and refutes those statements; "your wife" made. 😉
Anxiovert said:
LMAO!!! 🤣 come on! "hates every minute of it" "Sweet spots" "calling plan is useless if you can't make calls"
What kind of statements are those?
That's a lie and you know it. Please! You make it sound like there was no Cingular service ANYWHERE. The totally unaware reader would think that Cingular has only 4 towers. One in the NE, SE, NW and SW of the USA. This reader right here is very aware and refutes those statements; "your wife" made. 😉
I'm really sorry if it hurts you to hear that someone's honest experience with Cingular has not been a good one. Obviously she is able to use her phone most of the time. But my wife is not some teenager gabbing with friends. If she's o...
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That's not called an honest opinion. That's called Propaganda.
Oh btw, it's common knowledge that Verizon's network in Southern California performs better.
sangyup81 said:
Actually he attacked you because you posted in a way that exaggurated the problems of Cingular and made Verizon seem like God in comparison.
Verizon is no God...that you can be sure of. I think the way they market their phones & plans borders on criminal. I hate doing business with them because of the crap they pull to make a bigger profit. But the bottom line is this...I carry a cell phone so I can make and receive calls. That happens more reliably with Verizon. I'm sure there are many happy Cingular customers. My wife would probably be satisfied with Cingular had she not gotten used to Verizon.
I now live in VA and I dropped Verizon for Cingular due to coverage issues. Now that I think about it, it could have been because I was using an LG VX8100 but Cingular and the Motorola E1 ROKR did the job for me!
Since when is this a problem?
WonkotheSane said:
What kind of phone did your wife get?
She got the Samsung D-807 slider. It's a really nice phone.
the_eraser said:
...and with horrible reception...
Are you being sarcastic, or do you really believe the D-807 has horrible reception? When we were looking into what phone she should get, the D-807 was getting favorable reviews in terms of reception. It's the same old question....when a phone isn't getting great reception, is it the phone or the service?
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mrbeebe228 said:
... i can assure you that any where that is popluation 10,000+ you will have almost identical coverage, .... basically what i am saying is that dont let a few verizon cheerleaders make your decision, get the cingy phone for the 30 day trial and find out for yourself...
First of all, I'm no "Verizon Cheerleader". As a matter of fact, I'm the one who pushed my wife to go Cingular because I thought I would be doing the same in December. There are many things about Verizon that I do not like. I was really hoping my wife would love Cingular and the switch would be a positive thing. It simply wasn't. We do not live in an isolated area. We live in a mid-size town with many large cities close ...
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30 days is the longest trial period in the industry!
What more can you ask for?
uscingulair said:
what are you wanting people to say? It seems like your mind is made up that you like Verizon why post this here to debate? If you're wife thinks Verizon is better switch I don't understand what the need is to come here and ask questions that you seen to all ready know the answer to. Why is she so unhappy with Cingular, what phone does she have? You can't expect the free lg to hold a flame reception wise to an 810 or other high end phones. My wifes free Verizon LG sucks as far as reception and I always mess with her and pull out my Cingular phone and make calls where she can't. you get what you pay for.
I didn't start this thread. I saw "Cingular vs. Verizon" and someone who was about...
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Actually, I think we got more in our last price list than they intended to send us. It had the cost for COR stores and then what they sell them to agents for. It also went in to expense the amount invested into MIRs (since most are 50/50 carrier and manufacturer). They're selling us the CU500 at a loss right now, presumably to promote UMTS. They're paying $40 more for the phone than we're buying it from them for.
mrbeebe228 said:
way better handsets, data features, rollover, similar plans, true nation coverage (not perferred network like cdma carriers), PTT and the roll out of UMTS.. basically what i am saying is that dont let a few verizon cheerleaders make your decision, get the cingy phone for the 30 day trial and find out for yourself...58.7 million people can't be wrong..
MY THOUGHTS... not a bash against Cingular...
Better handsets?
I think thats a matter of opinion... Almost every phone Verizon has is superior when it comes to features and 3G technology..IMO that is .. 🙂
Data features??
Verizon has more data content than Cingular... EV-DO speeds are great!
PTT??
Cingular does have the upperhand...
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fishyguy said:...
My wife has Cingular. I've got Verizon. We're finally about to get on the same plan. Which way to go? I've been with VW for 5-6 years and have been satisfied but I've never been with another carrier. She hasn't used her phone much but recently had some problems with it and unresponsive customer service (brick & mortar guys). I was going to bring her to VW but am now considering Cingular because of bundling cost advantages. I'd love to hear opinions on how the two compare. I don't care about ringtones. What's important to me is the clarity of the reception and dependable service availability. We live in So. California. Are there any other resources I could consult/research? Lastly, if I do go with Cingular,
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fishyguy said:
Thanks, what is 3G?
3G is 3rd generation wireless which is broadband data services. Cingular's high speed data network has not yet launched in LA. Verizon has EDVO, this has been available in LA for some time.
And purchase a good phone. If you are going for low end, stick with Nokia non-flip phones. Sony Ericssons otherwise.
http://www.cellreception.com/ »
his wife was frustrated with Cingular and even more frustrated because she didn't leave within the 30 days
sorry but we have to point that out
sangyup81 said:
wrong, he gave the opinion of his wife
his wife was frustrated with Cingular and even more frustrated because she didn't leave within the 30 days
sorry but we have to point that out
That's true. I posted my wife's experience, not mine. But have you ever heard the expression, "If mama aint happy, aint nobody happy"!! 😕
T-mobile has many things going well for them.
I love that their total internet packages include hotspot (especially since I work right next to a Starbucks!)
they have a better voice network, Better customer service, better phone upgrade options, better support, better data network.
you get the point, better.
also coming mid november VZW will be introducing prorated ETF's. they will be the first major US carrier to do so. pretty much for every month into your contract you get 5$ off of the ETF
so 12 months into your contract if you feel the need to cancel instead of 175$ it would be 115$. No other carrier has the confidence to do this.