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Neva any good Cingular Announcements

Elnegro54

Oct 18, 2006, 11:21 AM
Whats the point of annoucing the phones if there unlikly to come over to america. Personaly tired of all these Stlyish EV-DO Handsets coming to sprint and verizon when cingular only has 2. Why are companies slacking on the america HSDPA Network. It will never grow if they don' make handsets so i'm tired of hearin things like. O the network isn' big enough or anything like that. Come out with something innovative and let the network follow it. Cingular doesn't have any catching phones but the f&(&*$&( razor so of course HSDPA won't grow if they don't get more out there. Also I'm tired of UMTS when HSDPA is out, why release 2 different phones seeing as though HSDPA phones aren't that expensive.

LG CU500 anybody? only about 100 bucks for all...
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nyyankees

Oct 18, 2006, 11:26 AM
this seems to be the common sentiment floating around everywhere. therefore, its true. there has to be something to it if this many people feel the same way.

i figured cingular would have quickly expanded their 3g lineup following the cu500. it would have been smart to gobble up the 3G customers quickly seeing is how tmobile was lagging behind at the time.

theres an opportinity lost. another opportunity lost in the v3i delay. this leads to the delay of the krzr which also will not sell well for cingular.

stan sigman is a moron lol
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texaswireless

Oct 18, 2006, 12:27 PM
This is a common sentiment floating around HERE, not everywhere. I don't have customers banging down my door for these new phones. Every blue moon I get someone asking about some phone we may never get.
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chainsaw

Oct 18, 2006, 11:55 AM
Maybe you guys should go work for cingular corporate since you know exactly how to do things better! Then it will all be fixed. One of the major issues is that there is still only 40 cingular markets with 3g. The handset manufacturers are mostly to blame. They don't want to make a handset that won't be pushed nationwide.
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RUFF1415

Oct 18, 2006, 2:49 PM
57 markets.
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wirelesscom1

Oct 18, 2006, 8:17 PM
over 110 cities
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eskolanto

Oct 18, 2006, 11:57 AM
Ok with Cingular you have to take a few things into consideration. With the UMTS/HSDPA it really isn't possible to roll it out in some areas (notice i said some) right now. we still have a lot of customers on TDMA services as well as some AT&T customers that haven't been converted over to Cingular. But the Cingular customers are getting ready to be rolled back over to AT&T. So right now its a cluster f*@%. In my area (VA) we are trying very hard to roll the TDMA customers to GSM so we can launch 3G next year, but there is a problem. We took over SunCom in this area and everyone wants to keep their unlimited minutes with their old phones! So what do we do? Upgrade them and lose money on the back end to move ahead data wise which will bring mo...
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crackberry

Oct 18, 2006, 12:03 PM
eskolanto said:
Ok with Cingular you have to take a few things into consideration. With the UMTS/HSDPA it really isn't possible to roll it out in some areas (notice i said some) right now. we still have a lot of customers on TDMA services as well as some AT&T customers that haven't been converted over to Cingular. But the Cingular customers are getting ready to be rolled back over to AT&T. So right now its a cluster f*@%. In my area (VA) we are trying very hard to roll the TDMA customers to GSM so we can launch 3G next year, but there is a problem. We took over SunCom in this area and everyone wants to keep their unlimited minutes with their old phones! So what do we do? Upgrade them and lose money on the back end to move
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ygbhen

Oct 18, 2006, 1:05 PM
We understand and you are missing the point. There are 44 markets and we in those markets should have a larget litter to pick from. Cingular getting the consumers a few extra handsets for customers in these markets have nothing to do with that. We are up and running. They need to sit down at the table with Moto, SE, Nokia, LG, Pantech, and whoever else and get a few more handsets. While there might be forces in some markets that are preventing complete rollout, why should we have to sit like lame ducks until that gets straightened out. Where the hell are the Moto, Nokia, and SE 3g phones. I do not buy the excuse that they are waiting until there is a nationwide deployment. Please, if you go in their (manufacturers) corporate offices ...
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texaswireless

Oct 18, 2006, 1:42 PM
Go ahead and evaluate now.

You do not understand the economics of asking a manufacturer to supply handsets to a limited market. Scale dictates the cost of those handsets would be more than the matket could bare. Would you pay $400 for a 3G handset that did little more than a current 3G model?

I can guarantee MOTO (and I am sure others) have 3G U.S. phones in the works and are ready to pounce when they can ramp up manufactuering to a reasonable level.

If you want 3G that bad you might have to leave Cingular for now if you don't like the LG CU500 (personally I think it is a sweet phone that rivals anything currently out for V-Cast).

Hate to see you go.
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Elnegro54

Oct 18, 2006, 4:51 PM
Hey now your getting on him to harshly now, I like his opinion but i'm also agreeing with what everybody else is saying. Sure we can wait but at the same time cingular shows no signs of being innovative in the future. The non 3g models we have lack style and unique features. Atleast sprint has skinnable AI and Verizons coming out with flash interfaces on there phones with each phone being able to use video's as ringtones and things like that. Cingular is lacklusterin not on just phones but in features for there phones. Sure for business users cingulars great but sprint and verizon are doing a great job of appealing to all the crowds and cingular needs to doo so now. And even if you say Look at the sony ericsson walkman phones thats all the i...
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texaswireless

Oct 18, 2006, 6:16 PM
Cingular carries iTunes handsets exclusively, the number one selling mp3 player on the market. Whether you people here like it or not the RAZR is STILL the number one selling handset on the market and Cingular carries the combo #1 phone plus #1 mp3 player.

Cingular carries 3 different Windows Smartphones plus a Symbian and Palm based smartphone. Cingular also has deployed handsets with alternate email delivery methods such as Good and Blackberry on non Blackberry devices (Palm, Mokia, etc.)

Cingular LG CU500, streaming Bluetooth, awesome video with 3G speeds and available in non #g markets.

You folks are the 1 percenters. GSM has the unique quality that you can buy direct from MOTO, Nokia, etc. so do it. If it is not available e...
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ygbhen

Oct 18, 2006, 6:58 PM
You have your "realistic" and I have mine. I am not asking them to release 5 phones from each manufacturer. I am simply stating that we should have more to choose from than the CU500 and ZX20. Here's a plan release 2 more, add a little variety. They have more than enough markets available to release a few more phones. Also, if Nokia, SE, or any other manufacturer sold phones with 850 HSDPA I would be in line. Why dont you check out there website and find one for me. I dont need a dose of nothing! I am just one of many who wants and expects a little bit more and are tired of b.s. excuses! 🙂
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eskolanto

Oct 18, 2006, 1:56 PM
there are about 4 or 5 new handsets that are about to launch that are 3g. the original thinking was to only deploy the phones in the 3g markets themselves and just say forget the rest, but we changed our minds. now we are just going to sell all phones in all markets regardless. so again just stop and think. its coming up slowly but surely. and we started out with like 2 or 3 3g phones so i think its going pretty well. how many did sprint and vzw start out with??!!
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Elnegro54

Oct 18, 2006, 4:54 PM
They started out with 2, and within months been rolling out with a new one about every month. Even to this day Phonescoop announce's a new EV-DO Handset for the sprint and verizon market. and there always unique with nice features. They're so high in the EV-DO now that they have basic clamshells with EV-DO. I believe in Cingulars HSDPA market, I believe they have the best network, but without the phones, how can they compete or even show there prowess.
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crackberry

Oct 18, 2006, 3:24 PM
no i am not missing the point. the point is that cingular is waiting to do something big with it. just like they did with ptt... remember the threads about how mad people were they were pushing it back? also, remember we were the first with roll over, first with nation wide m2m (on or off network) first with nationwide 2.5G data (edge) and buying at&t wireless? there is going to be a big push for it, but honestly, is it worth leaving cingular for because it's not here now? no other carrier can offer what we offer with 3g, (talk and download/browse) at the same time... so you will be unhappy with them like you are now. patience is a virtue....
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ralph_on_me

Oct 18, 2006, 3:28 PM
I'm gonna laugh at the people who leave now when they come running back next year. Things are changing, and at&t is leading the way.
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crackberry

Oct 18, 2006, 3:36 PM
yes. like the new sim cards that has ims capabilities... people just don't get it...
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Elnegro54

Oct 18, 2006, 4:58 PM
Hey I'm not leaving cingular, screw that but i'm trying to push them in showing off something tight. There next biggest announcement will be video calling. However without unique handsets that will partain to all crowds that ability will go waisted and unused. Other then that I haven't heard of anything else under the woodwork and at this exact moment All they are concentratin on is bringing more crappy edge phones like the Motorola Pearl (which isn't edge) when they should be bringing something the market hasn't seen yet.

This argument isn't about what they will come out in the future its about the decision they are making now and have been making. I jus want us all to admit that we wonder what the hell are they doing. I'm already mad at...
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crackberry

Oct 18, 2006, 5:01 PM
like i said in a previous post, the reason the v3 still sales is because it is high in demand. and yes, there are a lot of mp3 playing phones, people want that. and more people want that then 3G. go figure.
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texaswireless

Oct 18, 2006, 6:22 PM
I love seeing this post on here:

"Hey, I want a phone that has a 2+ MP camera and mp3 capabilities for less than $200, any recommendations?"

People just don't get what things cost.
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nyyankees

Oct 18, 2006, 6:58 PM
i suggest the w810i 🤣
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texaswireless

Oct 19, 2006, 12:02 AM
Sorry, forgot to add "Unlocked and without a contract"
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texaswireless

Oct 18, 2006, 6:19 PM
Tell that to all those Nokia 6682 handsets that flew off the shelves.

Oh, wait, they didn't fly off the shelves even though it was the sweetest phone we saw in 2005.
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rytr23

Oct 18, 2006, 7:18 PM
Well, lets discount the 6682 usually appeals to a smaller percentage of people (like me 😁 ) however, lets take Tmobile.. smaller network, barely have edge rolled out and they seem to get a much better selection of handsets-- You going to tell me the Pearl would not do well on Cingular? Or the Dash? by the time the 750V and the 8800 come out on Cingular's catalog they will be old news. I would have left a long time ago for Tmobile if they had a better network. or if I didn;t absolutely despise verizon and sprint. and nextel.. Crap.. Thats why people are bitching.. they see these other handsets with other providers and scream why god why can't Cingular compete. Any Nseries coming to Cingular? iPhone? something? And don;t get me start...
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nyyankees

Oct 18, 2006, 7:30 PM
as far as i kno, the n75 is headed to cingular for Q4 2006. its currently in testing

but according to this site, its scheduled for Q1 2007

http://www.n75phone.org/ »


also, i read somewhere, that the iphone is to be cingular exclusive. i hav no idea when its gonna be released.
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texaswireless

Oct 19, 2006, 1:34 AM
For every person who asks why we don't have "x" phone from another carrier I have 20 who say our selection is better.

The argument is just ridiculous. I appreciate that some people desire a different type of phone, perhaps something Cingular does not carry. These charges of "Cingular has nothing" are just stupid. They have plenty for the vast majority of people. Sometimes they are first to market with a hot phone, but are crucified when they are not. It just gets very very old.
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rytr23

Oct 19, 2006, 5:13 PM
texaswireless said:
For every person who asks why we don't have "x" phone from another carrier I have 20 who say our selection is better.

The argument is just ridiculous. I appreciate that some people desire a different type of phone, perhaps something Cingular does not carry. These charges of "Cingular has nothing" are just stupid. They have plenty for the vast majority of people. Sometimes they are first to market with a hot phone, but are crucified when they are not. It just gets very very old.


OK, I am ot arguing that Cingular has "nothing", they have a fairly large selection of handsets. But the real issue I have with it is the level of tech they offer. Nothing cutting edge or spectacular....
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texaswireless

Oct 19, 2006, 5:15 PM
Cutting edge to who? To you, sure.

That is why the statements are just riduculous. Cutting edge is subjective at best.
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BeachSlapped

Oct 18, 2006, 11:57 AM
Cingular has been keeping a low profile about all this. I guess they are getting ready for something that will leave us all like...
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Perhaps they are holding on for a huge and aggressive marketing campaign that will be rolled out paralleled with the name change.
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nyyankees

Oct 18, 2006, 11:59 AM
name change prolly wont happen till next yr.

I want my N75 now!!!! lol
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the_eraser

Oct 18, 2006, 12:03 PM
LMAO.
I actually pictured a rouge wave of phones hitting us. Can you guys picture it? Phones all over the streets and stuff... 🤣 I know, I know. I such a dork.... 🙄

😛
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wirelesscom1

Oct 18, 2006, 8:23 PM
haha its ok its phonescoop ur secret is safe with us 😉
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wbexpress

Oct 18, 2006, 3:59 PM
So, does anybody in the know know when 3G will hit Philly?
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the_eraser

Oct 18, 2006, 5:22 PM
it already did...
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wbexpress

Oct 18, 2006, 8:09 PM
When I put in my zip code (08053) on the general website, it says that no 3G phones are available. So, does it stand to reason that eventually (if the service IS now available) then it will show available 3G phones, like it shows, for example, for zip code 10001 (NYC)?
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eskolanto

Oct 18, 2006, 5:52 PM
yes verizon has a new ev-do phone popping up every day but can you use them every where? let me answer that for you no! same thing for mighty s-extel. when they both started like a year and some change ago they started small with a couple of phones now everything that they come out with is capable. now you want cingular who just really launched 3g to have a million and one phones. i stated in an earlier post that the orginal thinking was just to deploy the 3g phones in just the 3g markets hince the need for just a couple of models, now thinking has changed and every store is going to carry 3g phones. now we have to get some great phones to go with the service. remember like i said earlier we just finished network integration a couple of week...
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ygbhen

Oct 18, 2006, 7:09 PM
they have been selling 3g phones for damn near a year. you are talking like they just launched it or something. come on dude 🤣
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