AT&T.... Cingular..... at&t .....WHAT THE #$%@???
AT&T dumping Cingular at the end of the year? No wonder they have changed my upgrade status early. I bet if I buy a new phone the new two year contract will be different & cover the terms of service so I can't get out during the transition,
Any body have a clue of what this will mean for the average customer? I remember going from AT&T to Cingular. NOW they want us to go back?
Will this free me from my two year contract> TERMS OF SERVICE ANYONE???
Any body have a clue of what this will mean for the average customer? I remember going from AT&T to Cingular. NOW they want us to go back?
Will this free me from my two year contract> TERMS OF SERVICE ANYONE???
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it wont mean anything to the average customer as far as I know. It is just a name change
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Its not the same AT&T it was before that "wants us back" so dont jump to conclusions, its ONLY a name change so we are still Cingular, just with a different name, which may or may not happen all we can do is speculate. Your normally allowed to upgrade 21 months into your 24 month contract(at least in my region). So dont get all worried about it, its not big deal.
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And if you pay over 75$(or something) per month for more than 3 months in a row you can usually upgrade after 6 months. That's for the Southeast for sure. Don't know about the other places.
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If I had a dollar for every single thread I have read about this.........
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I think this will go atop the most annoying thread on phonescoop. Everyday someone wants to know what's going on w/ the name change.
IT'S A NAME CHANGE PEOPLE! AT&T CONTROLS CINGULAR, SO THEY'RE PROBABLY GOING TO CALL IT AT&T WIRELESS.
THE BIGGEST CHANGE WILL BE THE LITTLE NAME ON YOUR PHONE. PPPPEEEEERRRRRIIIIOOODDD.
IT'S A NAME CHANGE PEOPLE! AT&T CONTROLS CINGULAR, SO THEY'RE PROBABLY GOING TO CALL IT AT&T WIRELESS.
THE BIGGEST CHANGE WILL BE THE LITTLE NAME ON YOUR PHONE. PPPPEEEEERRRRRIIIIOOODDD.
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I just don't like the name change thing... It's going to cost billions of bucks, makes no sense, the at&t name is old and sucks. Sprint has better rates and cooler phones. I think I'll switch to Sprint.
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Its actually going to save them money. What is cheaper? To market several different brands? Or one unified brand with huge name recognition internationally. I think choice #2 is obviously the right one. If sprint is so awesome why aren't they the #1 provider? Why is their churn so high?
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Cingy is huge because they merged with ATT Wireless. Had they not it would be a very close race for 2, 3 and 4th place. Cingual will be left once sprint gets thier data in place everywere and verizon gets their data act in gear. Not to mention T-mobile. If they will be able to deploy thier plans they got for 4g.
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wombough said:
Cingual will be left once sprint gets thier data in place everywere and verizon gets their data act in gear. Not to mention T-mobile. If they will be able to deploy thier plans they got for 4g.
I appreciate your opinion, but the only real competitors in the wireless gig will be Cingular and Verizon next year. They're both making changes that no other wireless only carrier can do.
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ralph_on_me said:wombough said:
Cingual will be left once sprint gets thier data in place everywere and verizon gets their data act in gear. Not to mention T-mobile. If they will be able to deploy thier plans they got for 4g.
I appreciate your opinion, but the only real competitors in the wireless gig will be Cingular and Verizon next year. They're both making changes that no other wireless only carrier can do.
Are you on something. Tmobile bought a huge amount of spectrum. And sprint is going to deploy Rev A by end of 07 with wimax by end of 08. Umm what is it the cingular and verizon are doing so special.
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wombough said:ralph_on_me said:wombough said:
Cingual will be left once sprint gets thier data in place everywere and verizon gets their data act in gear. Not to mention T-mobile. If they will be able to deploy thier plans they got for 4g.
I appreciate your opinion, but the only real competitors in the wireless gig will be Cingular and Verizon next year. They're both making changes that no other wireless only carrier can do.
Are you on something. Tmobile bought a huge amount of spectrum. And sprint is going to deploy Rev A by end of 07 with wimax by end of 08. Umm what is it the cingular and verizon are doing so special.
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I can't tell you that, but if you think about it it should be pretty obvious. There are certain things that only Verizon and the new at&t can do. Sprint, T-mo, Alltell, and everyone else simply cannot compete because they don't have the market base for it.
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That's what people used to say about apple. Sprint is innovative Who knows what will happen. In 1997 apple was considered done but now what?
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now they have ipod, and once the fad is over... they will go back to being very very dormant.
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Technically Sprint has more voice coverage in the U.S.A. because of their roaming agreements with Verizon. Since they don't charge for roaming anymore they have the largest coverage area at the lowest cost. Sprint offers more broadband services in more places than Cingular & better broadband content than Verizon... AND the iPod is about as much of a fad as the television or that crazy idea of the automobile replacing the horse.
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Say that again when analog goes down. If you look at Sprint's Digital coverage area it's laughable. I looked at it and laughed, so I know. Read up on some of the U-verse announcements made back in 05 when there was still only SBC. Now add in BellSouth and Cingular Wireless all in the same company and imagine what's gonna go down. I reiterate, the only other company that can and is doing this is Verizon.
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Totally different types of companies. Sprint is a service provider. Apple produces equipment. Sprint can announce any kind of plans they want, even an unlimited plan for $19.99 a month, and they still wont be in the same field as Cingular or Verizon.
They'll still be able to market their services to people who just want something simple or emergency based usage, but anyone who's serious about communication will be with Verizon or Cingular.
They'll still be able to market their services to people who just want something simple or emergency based usage, but anyone who's serious about communication will be with Verizon or Cingular.
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Dunno... y not ask that question to the people leaving Sprint/Nextel in a mass exodus.. lol
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When I went from AT&T to Cingular it required a different sim card and technical problems getting my phone numbers off of it....
And of course all new plans & rates.
This is what I'm worried about more than anything. I know all the gsm technology and coverage will be the same...But does anyone actually think this wont cause website, billing and other problems?
Here's one news story:
http://www.redherring.com/Article.aspx?a=19222&hed=C ... »
And of course all new plans & rates.
This is what I'm worried about more than anything. I know all the gsm technology and coverage will be the same...But does anyone actually think this wont cause website, billing and other problems?
Here's one news story:
http://www.redherring.com/Article.aspx?a=19222&hed=C ... »
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The plans might change a little bit to become BETTER, but the equipment doesn't change. We'll have newer versions of SIMs that can do more, but the older Cingular ones will still work in the equipment. The former AT&T SIMs will not work in Cingular nor the new at&t handsets.
It's Cingular, with a different name. It's not a different company. It's like when we switched from the little Bell wireless companies to Cingular.
It's Cingular, with a different name. It's not a different company. It's like when we switched from the little Bell wireless companies to Cingular.
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2 very big differences here. AT&T Wireless was bought out by Cingular. Now, Cingular is going to just do a name change to align themselves with all of the products and services offered by our parent company, at&t... and it will be at&t mobile, not wireless.
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Where are you getting the information that it will be at&t mobile? I find that very hard to believe.
From what I have heard, the name will be reverted back to the at&t wireless name, or it will simply be referred to as at&t's wireless solutions.
Ayyy teee and TEEE-MOBILE.
How's that for brand confusion?
From what I have heard, the name will be reverted back to the at&t wireless name, or it will simply be referred to as at&t's wireless solutions.
Ayyy teee and TEEE-MOBILE.
How's that for brand confusion?
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RUFF1415 said:
Where are you getting the information that it will be at&t mobile? I find that very hard to believe.
From what I have heard, the name will be reverted back to the at&t wireless name, or it will simply be referred to as at&t's wireless solutions.
Ayyy teee and TEEE-MOBILE.
How's that for brand confusion?
actually someone already posted about it earlier http://www.redherring.com/Article.aspx?a=1922 2&hed=C
but it will not be at&t wireless or wireless solutions. they do not want to bring that name back in any form.
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Dead link.
I still don't think they would make the mistake of renaming it at&t mobile.
We'll just have to wait for our answer.
I still don't think they would make the mistake of renaming it at&t mobile.
We'll just have to wait for our answer.
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Take this with a grain of salt, but the trainers in our call center are informing new hire classes (and have been for some time now) that the new name will indeed be AT&T Wireless and should occur sometime after the merger with Bell South is complete.
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Trep72 said:
Take this with a grain of salt, but the trainers in our call center are informing new hire classes (and have been for some time now) that the new name will indeed be AT&T Wireless and should occur sometime after the merger with Bell South is complete.
which call center are you in?
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at&t (formerly SBC) owns around 60% of Cingular while Bellsouth owns the rest. at&t is essentially buying out their partners ownership interest. Cingular still has it's own corporate structure and management team and will continue on the path it's on now will little change except possibly in name.
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Cingular Wireless bought AT&T Wireless, a publicly traded company, and integrated AT&T Wireless into their existing system and infrastructure. Former AT&T Wireless systems and infrastructure were slowly eliminated during this integration and changes had to be made to customer equipment to facilitate these changes.
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Cingular Wireless bought AT&T Wireless, a publicly traded company, and integrated AT&T Wireless into their existing system and infrastructure. Former AT&T Wireless systems and infrastructure were slowly eliminated during this integration and changes had to be made to customer equipment to facilitate these changes.
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dan327 said:
When I went from AT&T to Cingular it required a different sim card and technical problems getting my phone numbers off of it....
And of course all new plans & rates.
This is what I'm worried about more than anything. I know all the gsm technology and coverage will be the same...But does anyone actually think this wont cause website, billing and other problems?
Here's one news story:
http://www.redherring.com/Article.aspx?a=19222&hed=C ... »
When you migrated from AT&T, you came from a billing system that the new company was not going to use. Therefore, you migrated and were given a smart chip that is compatible with the billing system they use. With this name cha...
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dan327 said:
When I went from AT&T to Cingular it required a different sim card and technical problems getting my phone numbers off of it....
And of course all new plans & rates.
This is what I'm worried about more than anything. I know all the gsm technology and coverage will be the same...But does anyone actually think this wont cause website, billing and other problems?
Here's one news story:
http://www.redherring.com/Article.aspx?a=19222&hed=C ... »
When you migrated from AT&T, you came from a billing system that the new company was not going to use. Therefore, you migrated and was given a smart chip that is compatible with the billing system they use. With this name chan...
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It wont change anything other than the name and maybe some kick-off priceplan promos. With what happened before it was one WIRELESS company going broke being bought out by another WIRELESS company. The AT&T company that bought SBC cingulars parent company had nothing to do with AT&T WIRELESS. They were never the same company just the same name. And since now AT&T does NOT have wireless they will just use our billing and plans from what I've heard. This would save time and money on training and everything else. Since there are NOT 2 different WIRELESS billing systems merging like before it should not be as problematic as it was. Ergo NO migrations. your contract will stay the same but I do see new price plans and features being available to c...
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jinanddevil said:
It wont change anything other than the name and maybe some kick-off priceplan promos. With what happened before it was one WIRELESS company going broke being bought out by another WIRELESS company. The AT&T company that bought SBC cingulars parent company had nothing to do with AT&T WIRELESS. They were never the same company just the same name. And since now AT&T does NOT have wireless they will just use our billing and plans from what I've heard.
whoaaaaaaaaaa........... you are an idiot!!! AT&T did not buy SBC SBC BOUGHT AT&T.......... good god get your facts straight........ AT&T does have a wireless company, they OWN 60% OF CINGULAR..... moron.
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Better ease off the caffeine, no need for name calling. The fact is at&t is a name associated with a bad company. It doesn't matter who bought who, or who owns who. Why does it make good business sense to spend billions of dollars for a name change like this. The hip factor that cingular has will be gone. The at&t name carries baggage. If they spend billions of dollars to improve technology, coverage etc... Now that makes sense. Reducing rates or offering more competitive prices, better terms of service, improving customer service that's smart. Being innovative & different would skyrocket a company like this light years ahead... BUT no instead they are going to spend billions on a name change. WOW really smart.
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jinanddevil: do you think att and sbc are seperate companies. cingular bought out att wireless. then sbc bought out att long distance, then sbc changed their name to att. know att/sbc is trying to buy out bell south. so that they can have total control of cingular. then they may change cingular to att wireless. but it will only be a name change. no one will have to get new equipment or change plans. but the buy out will be up to the fcc. since it is close to making a monopily in part of country. justice dept okd it buy then justice dept hasnt been upholding laws lateley.
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Yeah AT&T is a recognizable name alright... The recognition of a company that is old, & floundered out of business. Oh lets not forget the glorious history of AT&T Wireless which was a model for how not to run a cell phone company. Sure spend BILLIONS of bucks to erase CINGULAR so that we can call it AT&T. That's a great idea. Perhaps the next new cruise ship could be called Titanic 2 (new titanic) they can use small letters for the new ships title that will be cooler 😎 . While we are at it lets launch billions of dollars worth of ad campaigns to promote the titanic... "Come sail on the unsinkable new titanic (fancy logo here). I see it now of course this is a brilliant business decision.
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The nice thing about being branded AT&T will be A: it is a more reconizable name world wide.
B: more of our elderly customers trust that name due to the fact it as been around such a long time.
C: AT&T has tons of money to spend on things that make money such as technology and marketing of that technology.
Lets face it to those who do not have cell phones and have home phones it is the most trusted name in the business. This is why verizon still has so many customers THE NAME helps.Cingular has made a huge name for itself in a short period of time. being backed by AT&T (who has millions of devout customers) will only help devour the only other company that matters: Verizon. I do apologize for my previous statement I was not entirely accu...
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B: more of our elderly customers trust that name due to the fact it as been around such a long time.
C: AT&T has tons of money to spend on things that make money such as technology and marketing of that technology.
Lets face it to those who do not have cell phones and have home phones it is the most trusted name in the business. This is why verizon still has so many customers THE NAME helps.Cingular has made a huge name for itself in a short period of time. being backed by AT&T (who has millions of devout customers) will only help devour the only other company that matters: Verizon. I do apologize for my previous statement I was not entirely accu...
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actually, older people distrust the at&t name becuase of the monopoly they had for so long. it's the older generation that got it broke up...
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what do you think is keeping sprint back. Their name. I hate sprint for everything but cell phones. I rather talk through two tin cans then have them for home service. But I love their cell phone service. Some people dont care if they have a good product they just hate the name. I have to say I think they are making a mistake going to ATT.
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That's why you are posting messages here and marketing execs make real money.
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This is getting old, SBC bought the name, and already owned most of Cingular. Now they own more of Cingular and have changed their name, and are going to change Cingular's name, that's it. Probably no policy changes, no tech changes, just same old Cingular, new name. Just pretend it says Kramer Wireless, it means just as much!
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Wow I didn't expect this many replies when I started this thread. I stopped by a Sprint store the other day and after I checked out the LG Fusic it's time to say bye to Cingular, AT&T, at&t... whatever your name is going to be. When I checked out the service I was surprised at how clear the voice service was and how much faster the data services were. So see ya maybe I'll come back if apple's iphone is at&cinguTATTcing whatchumacallit service...
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