cingular turned over 500 million in profit Q2 of 06, doesnt seem like we are doin too bad with the old policies not to mention still migrating the 2 companies(att + cingy)together, how about they pay their exec's less or consolidate the company first before they start abusing their customers. dont get me wrong i love cingular but gotta draw line sumwhere

Today ATT stock is up, their IBIT #s are good and has a lot to do with Cingular. CNBC made the comment that their old services(land lines are down and down a lot) Lol----I changed to Cox Cable 2 years ago and have saved over $400 dollars, 5 yrs that will be a thousand. You can not tell any difference. Their DSL vs Cox Cable internet there is a big difference. DSL is slow, why would anyone have DSL?
I own ATT stock ---good. I will not keep cingular if it's going to cost me more than another Co. Plain and simple. What they may not be thinking also is there is a snowball effect. I may not be making them money but pretty sure they are not losing with me. I go to a different Co. My whole family goes and maybe a couple of friends too. We will sti...
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500 million is nothing next to the 10.7 billion that ExxonMobil registered for Q2, and they keep raising the gas prices, don't they?

Not justifying the policy, just trying to bring to light that corporations have been scamming the American public since day one, and will continue to do so.

I own an oil business. lol

I don't think Cingular or any oil co are scamming anyone.
Oil businesses are not setting the price of anything, it's set by world markets. It's a commodity. Price and demand.

So you think Cingular is scamming it's customers. Lol

You do know there are people that drive all the time, like truck drivers. They pay the same price as you. No rating system.

You truly are relentless.

actually there is a guideline for out of area

750 minutes or 40% of your plan, whichever is lower

Here's a direct quote from a Baltimore Sun Ad:

Unlimited voice services: Unlimited voice services are provided solely for live dialog between two individuals.
Offnet Usage: If your minutes of use (including unlimited services) on other carriers’ networks (“offnet usage”) during any two consecutive months exceed your offnet usage allowance, Cingular may at its option terminate your service, deny your continued use of other
carriers’ coverage, or change your plan to one imposing usage charges for offnet usage. Your offnet usage allowance is equal to the lesser of 750 minutes or 40% of the Anytime minutes included with your plan. ©2006...
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thanks sangyup81
what about N&W and M@M guidelines?

The only thing it says about it is that it should be used in a 1 on 1 conversation only.

If you were to do 3-way calls during your N&W or with M2M, you're burning through twice the number of minutes.

What about actually USING the insurance on your phone- if its really been that long, there is a decent chance that phone is not still being made and you will get something that works and is similar to what you already have...

rumor said:
Retail is $300 ---upgrade on 1 year is $200 ---new customer is FREE. Free on a 39 dollar plan.

For which phone?

I know of exactly ZERO phones that are $200 on a one year agreement and free on a 2 year. Most every phone is $50-$70 more on a one year agreement and $100-$120 more on a "no commitment" (plus you save paying the upgrade fee).

At least at my store the phone we give away for free one a 2 year (Nokia 6010 if you really want it) is $80 for upgrade customers without a contract.

As I have already stated, Cingular is going to let you buy a phone AT COST to keep using your service. NO OTHER industry does the same.

Where did I say free on a 2 year upgrade???????? NO PLACE

Here u go
""BEST BUY"
Razr v3 No contract $349.99
1yr 179.99
it was free with 50 rebate for a new customer last week now $50.

Nokia 6102 No cotract $299.
1yr $189.99

Samsung 407 1yr $199.99

""FIREFLY"" on line
2 free Razr V3 phones
New Plan

---Both best buy and firefly just got those prices from there web sites.

Please don't blame or quote me just go on their sites. I don't care about prices nor do I care to debate with anyone.
I just don't like Cingular not upgrading me and not telling me why. They have came back and offered any phone at a new customer prices and...
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Look smart guy. You keep mixing up everything then form opinions on the uneducated potential outcome.

If you just want to ignore what people say and then grandstand about how the policies will hurt the poor and low spenders then I will call you out each and every time. This has nothing to do with how much you spend each month (considering YOU spend so much and aren't approved yet you keep making the leap to discrimination against the poor baffles me).

If you truly want to understand this then listen

Thank You! More name calling. How old are you?
Point out one place I've ignored what someone has said. You can't. When I've said something wrong I've either apologized or corrected myself. Have you ever done that? You say things and bad month anyone that has an opinion that is not the same as yours. You sound uneducated and simple minded. You never give facts or back up anything you say. You have a long history on this site of this behavior. You say you have never seen a 300 dollar no contract phone , 200 1yr and free for new customers. razr phone. Guessing you are uninformed out side of the small store you work at. Shop on line or at Sam's --Guessing you can't touch their prices and it pisses you off.. You can call me all kind of names...
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Are you finished?

Bottom line, your statements may be 85% correct but when you spout off about the 15% that isn't I will call you on it.

You have and continue to turn this into a rich vs. poor discrimination case when none exists. I have no respect for those who look for discrimination where none exists.

And, as I have said many times, I do not post to change your mind. To attempt to change the mind of the fools is just a waste of time. I post for those who actually are trying to get some help rather than just spout off with ignorant statements.

Have a great evening and keep up the ignorance.

Having read some of your prior posts on other threads Rumor, I have to admit it doesn't look like you started this thread with the truest of intentions. While you do post legitament questions that do deserve some answers, your prior anti cingular propaganda suggests your not really looking for an explanation to these questions. Prior posting gives the impression your here simply to try and drag Cingulars good name through the mud.
Granted defaming camaigns have been quite affective in the past, just look at politics, your regular anti-cingular posting has illegitamized much of your complaint about cingulars quality service.

Right on the nose!

ewwwwwwww.....shut him down.

Hello Crapbag and Texas wireless
This was my first post thread! I've written post after this. Maybe on threads that started before this one ---don't know.
Yes I've made it very clear I don't like the new upgrade policy. Propaganda and defaming some of Cingulars advertising campaigns I'm guilty but honest. My intentions are simple and straight foreword and true. I think the policy is wrong.
On the discrimination issue that is Texaswireless thing he keeps bringing up. His simple mindedness has taken it out of context and if you do read all what I've written you would agree. Getting a discount at Walmart or a Gas station was just humor. But why would Cingular have a system that is not open and clear to everyone. It's a little like buying...
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I'd just like to take a moment on RUMOR'S THREAD to proclaim my love for his number one enemy, TEXASWIRELESS.

Texas is the most knowledgable poster on these forums. If you've been around long enough, you'd know and respect that. But you haven't rumor, you're just a dufus with his panties in a bunch.

I'll drop the name-calling, because I tell it like it is. And that truly is how it is.

The bottom line is that Tex is doing nothing but being honest with you. Brutally honest or not, he's not feeding anyone any bullcrap, all of his points are above and beyond valid.

He's been doing this for years FOR A REASON.

Mistercrinkles-- I've never called anyone any names. That's both of you guys thing.
I just have pointed out how uneducated you both come across and evidentially are. Once again u r wrong. Also I've told you I'm having fun with pushing your buttons because you can't stop. Stop and think about that. Push Push!
I'm guessing people are now reading this now because it's funny.
Neither of you are smart enough to understand what my point to my main post is about. It's to change Cingular's new upgrade policy. Once again this policy is going to hurt the independent dealer and make Cingular Service Reps jobs a little more unpleasant. Most customer that come into your stores that are LTV1's are going to be upset that they can't upgrade. They cam...
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Um, rumor, you DID say that some phone was free. Here, re-read it.

In my features on the Web it clearly states " 12 month Upgrade"
Also subsidizing the price. Retail is $300 ---upgrade on 1 year is $200 ---new customer is FREE. Free on a 39 dollar plan.

And that's what Tex was pointing out, and right in doing so. The subsidation between 1 year and 2 year is not a difference of $200.

Mistercrinkles I do think u can read. Please since u so nicely included my Quote. Please point out where I said anything about a 2 year anything ----I didn't. So now what is your point. That you can't read or what? I included my response for you that I gave Texaswireless. If you guys are going to point out stuff I wrote how about READ it carefully first so you don't look so uneducated.

Also remember I'm just having fun. I think you guys are too. Thanks for all the response that's just what I've wanted.

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Re: Question for you...
by rumor Wednesday, 11:54 PM




Where did I say free on a 2 year upgrade???????? NO PLACE

Here u go
""BEST BUY"
Razr v3 No contract $349....
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Rumor, when looking at pricing you have to understand that bestbuy(i dont' know of firefly) is an independant dealer and thus sets its own prices. Defferences in their pricing from a 2-1-no commitment pricing is based on what they hope to earn per an act vs what they lose in phone cost. I may have miss construde what i have read but you should check pricing in a corporate store if you want to qoute a cingular price.
I personally sell razors for over 150 on a two year before the 50 rebate. This is based on market and such but looking at bestbuy or radioshack for instance would give you a skewed view as to what cingular is suggesting for a discount.

I got it and understand your point. Sorry to be rude.
Little tired of people quoting me , then responding to something I didn't say. Others have taken one thing out of context and running with that, just to make themselves look stupid. Over this whole deal I've talked to several reps and they hate this policy. so instead of blasting me fight this policy.
If you work for a non owned cingular business then this policy will hurt your business. Cingular told me I would have to buy my phones directly though them, not an authorized seller. Course I could've paid retail. Things have worked out for me so no longer upset.

Fire fly is an on line retailer there ad is right next to where I'm writing right now. that ad changes from time to time....
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Don't get me wrong i'm not "blasting" you, i just wanted to point out the difference in pricing. As far as the policy goes, i agree it will hurt my sales some. These plans on average don't make me much money but i agree it is putting people in a difficult situation. I take the infantry say when it comes to fighting this policy. "Ours is not to wonder why, ours is but to do and die." 🙂

You post on your ORIGINAL post that you have TWO phones and pay around 70 a month, you and your 15 year old kid.

You post on this post, and now, all of a sudden, you have 10 more lines! And it's on a business plan!

Go take your flaming elsewhere.

Mistercrinkles give it up buddy

My business was not part of my complaint.
My business has 4 cars and 8 pickups and 4 semis.
If you ask me how many cars I have I'll tell you one.
I have a friend that owns a health care business, they have 47 cars. Just for the heck of it I just called him and said how many cars do you own, he said 2.


So what is your point ?

My point is that your arguments are very inconsistent.

And your friend, and the cars, who gives a crap, and what sense does that make?

The bottom line is that at one point in this thread you were complaining about your family talk plan with 2 lines.

At another point in this thread you went on about how you had a business plan with 12 lines.

There's nothing to give up, at all. But with each post that you submit, there's about five more things to pursue in argument.

It's easier to point these things out then dealing with the incompetence of Cingular eh?

Just like trying to explain something to a person with an IQ of about 45. LOL!!!!

Mister crinkles Please tell me u are kidding.

The story about the cars FYI --- few people that owns businesses include all their business items in with their personal items. I tried to make it so simple a 6 year old would understand. but you didn't. I bet you are the only person that reads that that didn't get it. lol!

If you asked Bill Gates how many cell phones he owns he would probably say 1 to 3. His business probably owns thousands. Now do you understand.

I welcome your comments. It's making this fun to keep posting.

It is not because you are a low end user. Some customers still qualify for ugrades on a $9.99 family talk add-a-line. there are other factors. This is not really a new policy just the first time it has affected so many people. Cingular has the largest customer base in north america. Unfortunately with that comes more customers like youand some other that may not have the best experience with cingular(you cant please everybody all of the time but in america it is expected). Verizon has done the same thing to their customers for years. But because they've never had the customer base that cingular has no one really noticed. It was usually blown off as the common BITCHy customer. Even those customers still found happiness in another carrier I'm ...
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