Any Rep want to make some money??
So heres the deal:
I'm moving away to London and definetely cannot take my cell from cingular with me. But they still will not let me out of my contract. So what I am asking is if anyone has any information on how I can get out of this contract for free, then if the information works, I will send a good amount of cash your way, via paypal or moneyorder, check or whatever you want.
I would GREATLY appreciate the help if anyone can give it a shot
I'm moving away to London and definetely cannot take my cell from cingular with me. But they still will not let me out of my contract. So what I am asking is if anyone has any information on how I can get out of this contract for free, then if the information works, I will send a good amount of cash your way, via paypal or moneyorder, check or whatever you want.
I would GREATLY appreciate the help if anyone can give it a shot
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if you have the nationwife plan, use most of your minutes outside the local area. If you you more minutes outside of your local area, they are losing more money so they will let you out.
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if you have the nationwife plan, use most of your minutes outside the local area. If you you more minutes outside of your local area, they are losing more money so they will let you out.
WTF? If you have a nationwide plan; the whole USA is your calling area! Where did that come from?
Now, if he has a nationwide plan and more than 50% of his calls are roaming (as in other regional carrier ie Wyoming) for three months in a row, then maaaaaaybe!
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Just cause your on a nationwide plan doesn't mean, you can use all your minutes for 3 months straight in a roaming area. All companies don't have towers in every state and that means they pay the other carrier to use their tower. So which means if they are roaming on another networks tower for about 3 months, they will let the user go.
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I don't know Cingular, but I do agree with the last post that if you are roaming all the time or show in a low to no coverage area, your chances are much better at getting out of your contract.
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Have you tried calling customer service and telling them you are moving to London? I would think since you are moving out of the country they would let you cancel....
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As I stated if this guy was one year in or something I don't think this would be an issue. HE JUST SIGNED UP. Cingular is not looking at this an a customer service issue, they just paid for his phone and aren't willing to let him out of his ETF.
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Still, what would Cingy do if he took (as a hypothetical) the phone over there and requested the address of his bill to be changed from 123 Main St Anywhere USA to 1 Flat 15 London England???
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They would say they can only bill service and provide service in the United States per the contract (which he signed) and he must pay the ETF since he received a phone below cost and cannot continue his service in the U.S. They would also tell him about Cingular World roaming rates if he so desired to keep said service. Should he push the issue they would cite the fact that HE is moving, not them. HE is breaking the contract, not them.
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I know a sure fire way to do it, guaranteed...but you're moving to London...and I really hate england...so I'm not going to tell you
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I know t-mobile waives etf for moving out the country.... why doesn't cingular?? Hmmm?
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Cingular said that I am responsible for my contract regaurdless of what country I am in ...
Man --- I hate cingular sometimes
Man --- I hate cingular sometimes
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Why? you AGREED to a COMMITMENT!!! This shouldn't be so hard to understand.
Try doing a transfer of service. Do you have a friend who could take you number and cell phone until the end of the agreement? Also, if you have the money to move to England; paying the ETF shouldn't be that hard in your pocket... 🙄
Try doing a transfer of service. Do you have a friend who could take you number and cell phone until the end of the agreement? Also, if you have the money to move to England; paying the ETF shouldn't be that hard in your pocket... 🙄
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First of you are really rude
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go somewhere else and flame buddy
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I was offering to pay someone to get me out instead of paying cingular the money
so go blow off
second off
go somewhere else and flame buddy
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I was offering to pay someone to get me out instead of paying cingular the money
so go blow off
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Well said!!! It is ridiculous if a carrier is so literally "insecure" about losing customers that it has it's contract cover the entire globe even though there is no way of using there service. There are others that are so good about making sure you are happy with your coverage it is kind of beyond ridiculous. So to Cingular I say.........
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Wow, looks like you decided to chime in without even understanding the facts.
First off, if he was well into his agreement this probably would not be an issue. HE JUST SIGNED UP. He also JUST GOT A PHONE BELOW COST.
Cingular, or any other sane company, is not going to pay for your equipment and then let you bolt on the agreement.
Educate yourself on the subject first before making a fool of yourself.
First off, if he was well into his agreement this probably would not be an issue. HE JUST SIGNED UP. He also JUST GOT A PHONE BELOW COST.
Cingular, or any other sane company, is not going to pay for your equipment and then let you bolt on the agreement.
Educate yourself on the subject first before making a fool of yourself.
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Cheers to that! It doesn't take a law degree to figure out that a two year contract lasts for two years. Whats more is that if he's moving to europe then he should have applied for a passport which takes time, if its new service why didn't he cancle within the thirty days? The EFT isn't a rediculous charge either considering it brings what he originally paid for the phone up to retail cost.
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You have nothing better to do than troll a Cingular forum and start trouble??
UAZip04... do you know anyone who would want to take over your service? You can have it transferred to their name without a penalty.
UAZip04... do you know anyone who would want to take over your service? You can have it transferred to their name without a penalty.
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Not really unless there is anybody on here who would accept another line (which I doubt)
and you are right all these people are doing is trolling
and you are right all these people are doing is trolling
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Exactly, if all they can do is criticize, screw em... If there are here to help (like myself) then all the thanks in the world to them.
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you are moving to london how can they NOT let you out of your contract? they cant give you a local number, and they cant send your bills to London (atleast its doubtful). therefore they are unable to live up to their end of the contract. you should get out without an ETF for sure.
disclaimer: I dont work for cingular so this may not be how they roll but its how another large wireless company works.
disclaimer: I dont work for cingular so this may not be how they roll but its how another large wireless company works.
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I think their loophole is that I am a three month old costumer ... they said that I should just pay the fee and move away (basically)
Are their any reps out there that can help me out???
Are their any reps out there that can help me out???
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The ETF is to cover the discount you just received on your handset. Since you are out of the 30 days you are stuck. Pay the ETF and sell the phone on ebay to cover your costs. You accepted the discount so accept the ETF.
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jerk
honestly you people need not reply if you do not like what is being discussed
go somewhere else and waste your time
honestly you people need not reply if you do not like what is being discussed
go somewhere else and waste your time
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Excuse me. You asked for help, but don't want to hear what we have to say?
There's more than one thing wrong here:
1- You are making it perfectly clear that you rather pay a stranger in here for advise on how to get out of an agreement that you signed, instead of taking responsability on your actions and just paying the ETF.
2- I gave you the best option (Transfer of service) which is finding someone who could finish the contract for you, and just because you didn't like that option you ask me to "blow off" I don't think so. How's the naughty one here?
3- The phone you got just like TX said was given to you at a discounted price and that was in the terms and conditions that you read and signed.
What would have done if you purchased ...
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There's more than one thing wrong here:
1- You are making it perfectly clear that you rather pay a stranger in here for advise on how to get out of an agreement that you signed, instead of taking responsability on your actions and just paying the ETF.
2- I gave you the best option (Transfer of service) which is finding someone who could finish the contract for you, and just because you didn't like that option you ask me to "blow off" I don't think so. How's the naughty one here?
3- The phone you got just like TX said was given to you at a discounted price and that was in the terms and conditions that you read and signed.
What would have done if you purchased ...
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No you jerk,
1. Cingular does not discount phones $175 off the retail price (everyone knows that it is usually $80 off retail)
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I understand responsibility buddy, and I was just trying to see if there was an easy way
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don't reply again to my thread, because if you don't like what I am asking GO SOMEWHERE ELSE!
1. Cingular does not discount phones $175 off the retail price (everyone knows that it is usually $80 off retail)
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I understand responsibility buddy, and I was just trying to see if there was an easy way
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don't reply again to my thread, because if you don't like what I am asking GO SOMEWHERE ELSE!
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UAZip04 said:
No you jerk,
1. Cingular does not discount phones $175 off the retail price (everyone knows that it is usually $80 off retail)
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I understand responsibility buddy, and I was just trying to see if there was an easy way
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don't reply again to my thread, because if you don't like what I am asking GO SOMEWHERE ELSE!
you actually get $100 off per year you sigh a contract. so there is some validity. 175 + 36 act fee = price of phone.
if someo did help you get out for free and the company found out they'd be fired. so its best you speak with a nice supervisor. and see if they can at the least lower the fee for you. and if you provide proof your moving they might help ypu ...
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Excuse me, but the SE w600i is now $49.99 after MIR. That's a $399.99 phone. That is $350 off retail price.
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the average phone free with contract is $200 cost to the company. if you sign a plan for 2 years then its free.
take the lg c1500. cost to the company 189.00
w/ 1 year contract you pay 90.00 2 year you pay nothing. so wouldnt you say that about a 200 buck discount? i would.
take the w600i. cost to company 350.00 1 year you pay 250. 2 year you pay $99.99 and online i believe its 49.99 that over $300 buck in discounts. so now you see where they are coming from?
anywhere under six months in contract is MAJOR cost to the company......so therefore they dont want to loose you for free. the phone is already past resale so they cant do anything with it if you give it back.
and the same with any other company. if vzw gave you a 8100...
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take the lg c1500. cost to the company 189.00
w/ 1 year contract you pay 90.00 2 year you pay nothing. so wouldnt you say that about a 200 buck discount? i would.
take the w600i. cost to company 350.00 1 year you pay 250. 2 year you pay $99.99 and online i believe its 49.99 that over $300 buck in discounts. so now you see where they are coming from?
anywhere under six months in contract is MAJOR cost to the company......so therefore they dont want to loose you for free. the phone is already past resale so they cant do anything with it if you give it back.
and the same with any other company. if vzw gave you a 8100...
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Wait till he goes to London. They don't subsidize over there last time I checked. Count those EUROs... Personally I'd rather spend the money on a World Cup Game...!!!
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London and Great Brittain still use English Pounds. The English refuse to trade thier currency for the Euro. Talk about Brittish self-pride! :-)
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What are you ten?
That is $80 off COST, not retail. Go look at a true RETAILER like Radio Shack, Best Buy or Circuit City. They charge $200-$250 more than the price you pay. How much is a RAZR at Best Buy? $350. THAT is retail.
Pull your skirt up and be a man about it. Pay the ETF and get on with your life.
That is $80 off COST, not retail. Go look at a true RETAILER like Radio Shack, Best Buy or Circuit City. They charge $200-$250 more than the price you pay. How much is a RAZR at Best Buy? $350. THAT is retail.
Pull your skirt up and be a man about it. Pay the ETF and get on with your life.
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Retail is an expected price for which you would pay for a particular item. This is not "suggested retail" that some manufacturer makes up to create an expected profit margin.
If you buy a RAZR from Best Buy without service you WILL PAY $350-$400. That is not a lied about price nor an inflated "suggested" price. They sell it for that (suprisingly enough people pay that too). If someone wanted to buy a RAZR from me and does not have Cingular service (for export, etc.) I sell it for that price as well. Only if they have Cingular service can they get it for the "no commitment" price of $249 to $299 (I sell it for the later). That is still pretty damn close to dealer cost.
If homey there got his RAZR for $79 after rebate, $129.99 in s...
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If you buy a RAZR from Best Buy without service you WILL PAY $350-$400. That is not a lied about price nor an inflated "suggested" price. They sell it for that (suprisingly enough people pay that too). If someone wanted to buy a RAZR from me and does not have Cingular service (for export, etc.) I sell it for that price as well. Only if they have Cingular service can they get it for the "no commitment" price of $249 to $299 (I sell it for the later). That is still pretty damn close to dealer cost.
If homey there got his RAZR for $79 after rebate, $129.99 in s...
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no, i mean when a phone is overvalued companies lie more about the price of a phone i dont know cingular or verizon phones but i'm sure there are a couple that they have done this too... the PTT phones at us cellular are 350 "Retail" but cost 180 and 170 respectivley, the funny thing is that the flip phone is the one that is 170 but it is more expensive with a contract, there are varying price breaks on a contract but if someone wants to sign a 1 year contract with the lg 4750 they pay 169.95... they pay cost of the phone if they sign a contract...
the CDMA razr cost 374 and the retail is not that bad but some phones are scams.
the CDMA razr cost 374 and the retail is not that bad but some phones are scams.
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Luckily Cingular's price structure is pretty up front and straightforward. Sounds like you guys have an odd system.
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there are only a couple of phones like that, but cingular and verizon must have done this too a few times, i just dont know the examples of it.
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Actually I rarely see them changing from their standard pricing structure. It makes things simple.
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I've seen countless customers get out of contract because they have moved to another country (Jordan was the country)
Maybe after 6 months you can try again if you can stay in the states a bit longer? 6 months is a good guess because most dealers get charged back if a customer quits before 6 months.
Maybe after 6 months you can try again if you can stay in the states a bit longer? 6 months is a good guess because most dealers get charged back if a customer quits before 6 months.
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Have you even bothered offering back the phone or offering to pay the no commitment price on the phone?
Sounds like you are going about this in a very one-sided fashion.
Whether you choose to accept reality or not is not my problem. You received around $200 off retail on the phone you bought and about $80-$100 off actual cost. In Cingular's books you are still in the negative on this. Stop bad mouthing a company for refusing to lose money.
Sounds like you are going about this in a very one-sided fashion.
Whether you choose to accept reality or not is not my problem. You received around $200 off retail on the phone you bought and about $80-$100 off actual cost. In Cingular's books you are still in the negative on this. Stop bad mouthing a company for refusing to lose money.
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UAZip04 said:
So heres the deal:
I'm moving away to London and definetely cannot take my cell from cingular with me. But they still will not let me out of my contract. So what I am asking is if anyone has any information on how I can get out of this contract for free, then if the information works, I will send a good amount of cash your way, via paypal or moneyorder, check or whatever you want.
I would GREATLY appreciate the help if anyone can give it a shot
*gasps* 😲
What? why not take that "good amount of cash" and pay the ETF? It is because of customers like you that the policies are what they are. SOY (that is Shame on you!)
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Again,
DO NOT FLAME MY THREAD!
because the good amount of cash is considerably lower then $175
and I would rather give the money to a rep that would let me out free so they can get some extra in their pocket, then pay cingular money they definetely do not deserve
again: blow off
DO NOT FLAME MY THREAD!
because the good amount of cash is considerably lower then $175
and I would rather give the money to a rep that would let me out free so they can get some extra in their pocket, then pay cingular money they definetely do not deserve
again: blow off
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Dude, you can sit there and accuse everyone else of being immature, but you're the one incessantly using phrases such as, "blow off".
Everyone on here is doing NOTHING but trying to give you advice.
And the bottom line here, is that you signed a contract, and you're trying to be dishonest and back out of it. Just like Terrell Owens. You want to change the terms to accomodate your needs, because you obviously weren't thinking with your entire brain when you signed the contract.
Get a grip on reality, suck it up, and realize that more likely than not, you will have to pay the ETF. All because your signature is on a piece of paper AGREEING to pay that ETF in the event that you back out of your contract.
Grow up.
Everyone on here is doing NOTHING but trying to give you advice.
And the bottom line here, is that you signed a contract, and you're trying to be dishonest and back out of it. Just like Terrell Owens. You want to change the terms to accomodate your needs, because you obviously weren't thinking with your entire brain when you signed the contract.
Get a grip on reality, suck it up, and realize that more likely than not, you will have to pay the ETF. All because your signature is on a piece of paper AGREEING to pay that ETF in the event that you back out of your contract.
Grow up.
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And on a further note, I'm sure that most people consider "a good amount of cash" to be MORE than $175. I know I do.
But that's just me flaming the thread of the flamer.
But that's just me flaming the thread of the flamer.
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If only I was as good at real life ownage as I was at online ownage. Lol.
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This guy is just a lame-o.
He insists on attempting to make us feel like crap for doing nothing but conveying to him Cingular's policies.
The world is better without these people.
He insists on attempting to make us feel like crap for doing nothing but conveying to him Cingular's policies.
The world is better without these people.
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I think it is funny he thinks so low of people that they would risk their job to embezzle $100.
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Is that really technically embezzling? I guess so, not too sure of legal matters.
That's why I said, I consider a "good amount of cash" MUCH more than $175.
I don't know who he makes us Cingular reps out to be, but we ain't hobos!
That's why I said, I consider a "good amount of cash" MUCH more than $175.
I don't know who he makes us Cingular reps out to be, but we ain't hobos!
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If you conspire to take (or accept) money owed to a company for which you are employed that is considered embezzling or theft.
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Oh Blow Off!!! J/K, I don't even feel right saying it...
I think the perception was most of the users on Phonescoop were anti-cellular and anti-establishment... When in fact, most of the users either work in wireless, own wireless stores, or etc...
I think the perception was most of the users on Phonescoop were anti-cellular and anti-establishment... When in fact, most of the users either work in wireless, own wireless stores, or etc...
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That sure is a bad perception considering what I think Rich and Co. hoped to build. I for one hope I contribute for the positive more than the negative.
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hope it helps you
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hope it helps you
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UAZip04 said:
So heres the deal:
I'm moving away to London and definetely cannot take my cell from cingular with me. But they still will not let me out of my contract. So what I am asking is if anyone has any information on how I can get out of this contract for free, then if the information works, I will send a good amount of cash your way, via paypal or moneyorder, check or whatever you want.
I would GREATLY appreciate the help if anyone can give it a shot
haha im shady as hell.. give me your accout info ill credit the 150 for ya' 😛
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Let's be realistcit here. No one is going to get you out of your contract for you. You will have to figure it out for yourself.
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Fake your own death.
Seriously, you must be new to these forums. This is about the 20th time in the past three months we remind someone that they signed an agreement in good faith.
In plain english: YOU GAVE YOUR WORD. Of course, like everyone else, you'll lie, cheat and steal to fit your own needs.
Seriously, you must be new to these forums. This is about the 20th time in the past three months we remind someone that they signed an agreement in good faith.
In plain english: YOU GAVE YOUR WORD. Of course, like everyone else, you'll lie, cheat and steal to fit your own needs.
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