Setting the record straight!
Alright lets get everything straight because it looks like quite some people that have posted here do not know what they are talking about.
1. To the guy that said he wanted a world wide standard adopted here in the us, well, he must be anti-capitalism. Why? Because we have competition, and it is keeping us in the running with low prices.
2.Yes the 3G update path for GSM is UTMS. But it uses the air-interface of cdma instead of tdma. The tech being used is called WCDMA and this is what Cingular is using for their new UMTS phones. So generically both gsm and cdma are combining to form a hybrid technology throughout the world.
3. Sprint is Sprint. HA And verizon had EV-DO way before you guys did. ATT wireless turned on 6 WCDMA sites b...
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1. To the guy that said he wanted a world wide standard adopted here in the us, well, he must be anti-capitalism. Why? Because we have competition, and it is keeping us in the running with low prices.
2.Yes the 3G update path for GSM is UTMS. But it uses the air-interface of cdma instead of tdma. The tech being used is called WCDMA and this is what Cingular is using for their new UMTS phones. So generically both gsm and cdma are combining to form a hybrid technology throughout the world.
3. Sprint is Sprint. HA And verizon had EV-DO way before you guys did. ATT wireless turned on 6 WCDMA sites b...
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GinniUA said:
Alright lets get everything straight because it looks like quite some people that have posted here do not know what they are talking about.
1. To the guy that said he wanted a world wide standard adopted here in the us, well, he must be anti-capitalism. Why? Because we have competition, and it is keeping us in the running with low prices.
2.Yes the 3G update path for GSM is UTMS. But it uses the air-interface of cdma instead of tdma. The tech being used is called WCDMA and this is what Cingular is using for their new UMTS phones. So generically both gsm and cdma are combining to form a hybrid technology throughout the world.
3. Sprint is Sprint. HA And verizon had EV-DO way before you guys did. ATT wireless turned on ...
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Alright lets get everything straight because it looks like quite some people that have posted here do not know what they are talking about.
1. To the guy that said he wanted a world wide standard adopted here in the us, well, he must be anti-capitalism. Why? Because we have competition, and it is keeping us in the running with low prices.
2.Yes the 3G update path for GSM is UTMS. But it uses the air-interface of cdma instead of tdma. The tech being used is called WCDMA and this is what Cingular is using for their new UMTS phones. So generically both gsm and cdma are combining to form a hybrid technology throughout the world.
3. Sprint is Sprint. HA And verizon had EV-DO way before you guys did. ATT wireless turned on ...
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Could cities pass a bill for a $.005 sales tax increase and offer a free wifi grid? I think if that could happen, then wifi could be a very big thing aside from the fact that the government authority would be managing it, which isn't always the best for the advancement of technology.
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they could but wouldn't happen. espically in rural or country area's where people still think their startac's are the newest thing. 🙄 . i know in my area if we had to vote on it....more than likely it'd be yea. but just down the road which is sorta kinda technicoly the same city all the hillbillies would say no. 👿
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I love these.
If you want to step out and make this kind of post you might want to have your facts straight.
Cingular and Voicestream both had GSM in the US before ATTWS.
Europe choosing GSM as a standard did not force all the other areas of the world to choose GSM. It was (and is) and good reliable techonology that has a low cost of deployment. Market conditions effected the deployment of GSM worldwide. Europe's market overall is very small compared to the rest of the world.
If you want to step out and make this kind of post you might want to have your facts straight.
Cingular and Voicestream both had GSM in the US before ATTWS.
Europe choosing GSM as a standard did not force all the other areas of the world to choose GSM. It was (and is) and good reliable techonology that has a low cost of deployment. Market conditions effected the deployment of GSM worldwide. Europe's market overall is very small compared to the rest of the world.
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Correct! And before Voicestream, there was Ariel Communications and quite a few little baby ones playing, too.
But isn't GSM license-free? I don't know of anyone having to pay Qualcomm or anything like that for using the standard?
But isn't GSM license-free? I don't know of anyone having to pay Qualcomm or anything like that for using the standard?
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Qualcomm has significant licensing fees throughout their product lineup.
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GSM is an open source, which means anyone could use it, though it took a while for it to be in full force in the US.
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not disagreeing but i thought at&t was 2nd behind voicestream 😕 and cingular followed just shortly after.
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Pacific Bell Wireless launched in 1998on GSM. PBW was owned by SBC and became part of Cingular.
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😉 🤣 oooooooo i get it. 😛 🤣 😎 bet for the correction. eventhough its one of those things you'd be wrong on if research wasn't done. 😁
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texaswireless said:
Pacific Bell Wireless launched in 1998on GSM. PBW was owned by SBC and became part of Cingular.
And don't for BellSouth Mobility DCS... North and South Carolina, Eastern TN (and Coastal Georgia)... GSM from the jump... 1996... (and DCS is correct... in Europe it is the 1800 band and here in the states we call it PCS for 1900...)
They already had BellSouth Mobility, but in that area they could not set up as that company so they formed a new company and used GSM tech.
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Hello Moto said:texaswireless said:
Pacific Bell Wireless launched in 1998on GSM. PBW was owned by SBC and became part of Cingular.
And don't for BellSouth Mobility DCS... North and South Carolina, Eastern TN (and Coastal Georgia)... GSM from the jump... 1996... (and DCS is correct... in Europe it is the 1800 band and here in the states we call it PCS for 1900...)
They already had BellSouth Mobility, but in that area they could not set up as that company so they formed a new company and used GSM tech.
Sorry, and they became Cingular as well...
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Have you happened to follow the obscurity of lloka01's (or whatever the heck his/her screenname is) posts on this site??? He/She deserves whatever type of smacking around they get. A question like the one about a dual tech phone would be answered very simply by researching the technologies. And this person's other recent posts show thier lack of understanding AND lack of WILLINGNESS to attempt to understand.
The next time you want to attack me personally by singling me out, please GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!!!!!!
The next time you want to attack me personally by singling me out, please GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!!!!!!
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ya your so cool you have all the reason in the world to smackdown some one.
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Im pretty sure the nokia N80 will have Wi-fi. I don't know how it will be implemented tho. It could just be used for an internet connection or it could be used as an alternative to cellular for voice. I guess it depends on which carrier it ends up coming too
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nygiants said:
ya your so cool you have all the reason in the world to smackdown some one.
Who asked for your input, you worthless waste of space?
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GinniUA said:
Alright lets get everything straight because it looks like quite some people that have posted here do not know what they are talking about.
2.Yes the 3G update path for GSM is UTMS. But it uses the air-interface of cdma instead of tdma. The tech being used is called WCDMA and this is what Cingular is using for their new UMTS phones. So generically both gsm and cdma are combining to form a hybrid technology throughout the world.
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9. The US will not migrate completely to gsm, but actually the opposite. CDMA and GSM share the same upgrade path essentially.
I'm not sure if this is some kind of bait, but in case anyone may be confused, 3G CDMA is called CDMA2000 (actually there are a...
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This is true for America. In Korea and Japan, they use CDMA and UMTS/WCDMA. It was Verizon's choice to go with CDMA2000 instead of WCDMA.
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sangyup81 said:
This is true for America. In Korea and Japan, they use CDMA and UMTS/WCDMA. It was Verizon's choice to go with CDMA2000 instead of WCDMA.
Are you sure you know what you are talking about? CDMA2000 is the natural upgrade path for any native IS-95 (CDMA) network whereas WCDMA is the natural upgrade path for GSM networks. It would have been entirely too costly for Verizon to upgrade to WCDMA, and not a natural upgrade.
Any native IS-95 network that I know of has upgraded to CDMA2000 - NOT WCDMA!!!!
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GinniUA said:...
Alright lets get everything straight because it looks like quite some people that have posted here do not know what they are talking about.
1. To the guy that said he wanted a world wide standard adopted here in the us, well, he must be anti-capitalism. Why? Because we have competition, and it is keeping us in the running with low prices.
2.Yes the 3G update path for GSM is UTMS. But it uses the air-interface of cdma instead of tdma. The tech being used is called WCDMA and this is what Cingular is using for their new UMTS phones. So generically both gsm and cdma are combining to form a hybrid technology throughout the world.
3. Sprint is Sprint. HA And verizon had EV-DO way before you guys did. ATT
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GinniUA said:
So which technology had 3g first?
Whatever technology Japan was using had 3G first.
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umts. nttdocomo. who sat on at&t wireless's board and distributed the technology to them. and after the merger forced cingular to have 3g up in running on their network within a certain amount of time.
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first of all, you are crazy, second is cptfarlow is cooler than you will ever be.
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http://www.cellular-news.com/3G/ »
https://www.phonescoop.com/glossary/term.php?gid=104 »
https://www.phonescoop.com/glossary/term.php?gid=1 »
CDMA and GSM DO NOT SHARE THE SAME UPGRADE PATH!
https://www.phonescoop.com/glossary/term.php?gid=104 »
https://www.phonescoop.com/glossary/term.php?gid=1 »
CDMA and GSM DO NOT SHARE THE SAME UPGRADE PATH!
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