READ MY LIPS: NO NAME CHANGE
Updated article on TUCW states:
Official Q&A information directly from Cingular concerning the USA Today article:
"Will Cingular be changing its name to AT&T Wireless?
No. Cingular has been, is, and will remain a national brand.
What has changed for Cingular?
AT&T's plans will not change the way we market or manage Cingular. Even today, when BellSouth and AT&T sell wireless services as part of a bundle of wired and wireless services, the customer receives a bill from BellSouth or AT&T - not from Cingular. Most importantly, if either BellSouth or AT&T purchases wireless services from Cingular and markets them under another name, the results still show up in our balance sheet and are beneficial to Cingular. Gross adds - by any n...
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Official Q&A information directly from Cingular concerning the USA Today article:
"Will Cingular be changing its name to AT&T Wireless?
No. Cingular has been, is, and will remain a national brand.
What has changed for Cingular?
AT&T's plans will not change the way we market or manage Cingular. Even today, when BellSouth and AT&T sell wireless services as part of a bundle of wired and wireless services, the customer receives a bill from BellSouth or AT&T - not from Cingular. Most importantly, if either BellSouth or AT&T purchases wireless services from Cingular and markets them under another name, the results still show up in our balance sheet and are beneficial to Cingular. Gross adds - by any n...
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I'm not sure that the Cingular exec apparently quoted in the blog has any say in the matter. If SBC/at&t and BLS decide to change the name there is nothing the lowly Cingular execs can say or do since they are lowest on the chain of command -- SBC/at&t and BLS make the important decisions regarding the company. Perhaps the Cingular execs are miffed that SBC/at&t has decided to do this without having consulted them first as if that were even necessary.
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Stan Sigman: Clarification of Today's USA Today Article
Dear Colleagues,
I would like to take this opportunity to decrease the potential distractions and add concrete information about on-going speculation and a story in today's USA Today that the new AT&T plans to market wireless services under a brand other than Cingular.
Stan Sigman
President and CEO
There are two important things that I want you to remember about what this means for Cingular. First, this isn't a surprise, and second, Cingular has been, is, and will remain a national brand.
We have more than 52 million customers. Our size, national presence, and brand are definite advantages. BellSouth and AT&T (formerly SBC) support marketing Cingular as a nationa...
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Dear Colleagues,
I would like to take this opportunity to decrease the potential distractions and add concrete information about on-going speculation and a story in today's USA Today that the new AT&T plans to market wireless services under a brand other than Cingular.
Stan Sigman
President and CEO
There are two important things that I want you to remember about what this means for Cingular. First, this isn't a surprise, and second, Cingular has been, is, and will remain a national brand.
We have more than 52 million customers. Our size, national presence, and brand are definite advantages. BellSouth and AT&T (formerly SBC) support marketing Cingular as a nationa...
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Its a corporate e-mail. If you don't believe it, call 611 or go in to a COR store and ask them to verify.
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why would you ever publish this "coporate e-mail" on a public site? that is basically violating your confidentiality agreements and other agreements.. (just an fyi)
i dont care lol, i just am saying if you say a fact just provide a link..
i dont care lol, i just am saying if you say a fact just provide a link..
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As much crap that you spout as fact on this site with any backing or proof other than your word of mouth, you should never ask anyone for proof or attempt to check down on someone...
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The e-mail was sent to employees so we could pass the information down to customers with questions. The FAQ posted earlier, actually quotes some of the e-mail.
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it is proprietary becuase he said it is from the intranet so that means it is from the inside which means that you can not bring it to the outside.. (that is why you sign all kinds of agreements. ) if you are on the inside of any company you will notice it will say something like "confidential" or "dont distribute to public" or "for internal use only" etc.. thus; he is doing something illegal and could have his job terminated.
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Unless it didn't say that.
Just because something is on a company intranet does not automatically make it proprietary. You said it yourself, it would be marked as such if it was indeed proproetary.
And there have already been 3 different stories on RCR stating Ed Whitacre's interview was regarding ATT reselling Cingular under the ATT name.
Just because something is on a company intranet does not automatically make it proprietary. You said it yourself, it would be marked as such if it was indeed proproetary.
And there have already been 3 different stories on RCR stating Ed Whitacre's interview was regarding ATT reselling Cingular under the ATT name.
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lol.. of course it would say it.. (that it was for internal use of something of that sort) none of us are employees. ("Dear Colleagues")... we arent..
it is Stan Sigman not ED, by the way. 🙂
everything from the intranet is basically proprietary or else they would make it public...
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it is Stan Sigman not ED, by the way. 🙂
everything from the intranet is basically proprietary or else they would make it public...
😎 🤣
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nextel18 said:
lol.. of course it would say it.. (that it was for internal use of something of that sort) none of us are employees. ("Dear Colleagues")... we arent..
it is Stan Sigman not ED, by the way. 🙂
everything from the intranet is basically proprietary or else they would make it public...
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No, nextel, it was Ed Whitacre that was quoted on RCR News. Not Stan Sigman. 🙄
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lol.. the person who wrote that letter is STAN.
go to post https://www.phonescoop.com/carriers/forum.php ?fm=m&ff=4&fi=440061
"Stan Sigman: Clarification of Today's USA Today Article
Dear Colleagues,"
lol.. so it was stan who wrote this letter.. ED didnt write that letter.
go to post https://www.phonescoop.com/carriers/forum.php ?fm=m&ff=4&fi=440061
"Stan Sigman: Clarification of Today's USA Today Article
Dear Colleagues,"
lol.. so it was stan who wrote this letter.. ED didnt write that letter.
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I DIDN'T SAY ED WROTE THE LETTER YOU IDIOT.
How do you get so many things so wrong?
How do you get so many things so wrong?
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lol.. hahah.
well, i was talking about the letter. lol..
you have to get out more..
"How do you get so many things so wrong?"
hmm that sounds familar.. either you copy SF or he copies you..
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shame on you.. i hope you dont stay on here 24/7 especially during the holiday. shame on you.
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shows your maturity with your capitlization plus the insult. again, shame on you.
well, i was talking about the letter. lol..
you have to get out more..
"How do you get so many things so wrong?"
hmm that sounds familar.. either you copy SF or he copies you..
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shame on you.. i hope you dont stay on here 24/7 especially during the holiday. shame on you.
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shows your maturity with your capitlization plus the insult. again, shame on you.
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not true what-so-ever...
you and SF just dont understand the simple language in which i am speaking.
simple; i am talking about what the other guy posted on here, not about ED. thats a simple concept for both you and SF supposed to get.
i was talking what STAN was saying, not ED from the "letter" the other guy was putting on here.
understand? lol
you and SF just dont understand the simple language in which i am speaking.
simple; i am talking about what the other guy posted on here, not about ED. thats a simple concept for both you and SF supposed to get.
i was talking what STAN was saying, not ED from the "letter" the other guy was putting on here.
understand? lol
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Texaswireless has this issue with being the board super hero. Unfortunately he steps on his cape alot when trying to defend the defenseless, trips, then spews insult and innuendo in his embarrassed anger.
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TenMidgits said:
Texaswireless has this issue with being the board super hero. Unfortunately he steps on his cape alot when trying to defend the defenseless, trips, then spews insult and innuendo in his embarrassed anger.
As opposed to flaming the forum like you do? If he's trying to be the "hero", then you gotta be the cheesy villain. I'd say you rank up there with Mojo Jojo. Maybe the Penguin.
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CamelTowing said:TenMidgits said:
Texaswireless has this issue with being the board super hero. Unfortunately he steps on his cape alot when trying to defend the defenseless, trips, then spews insult and innuendo in his embarrassed anger.
As opposed to flaming the forum like you do? If he's trying to be the "hero", then you gotta be the cheesy villain. I'd say you rank up there with Mojo Jojo. Maybe the Penguin.
Nah I did not flame the forum. People attack those with opposing views and call them flamers and trolls because they have a different opinion then the majority. But they forget it is a public forum and all views are valid. When someone attacks my views with insu...
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i agree. i see no flame.. you were just making your opinions and in discussions with others.. i hardly understand how they think that is a flame.. perhaps nothing else to do? lol.
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TenMidgits said:...CamelTowing said:TenMidgits said:
Texaswireless has this issue with being the board super hero. Unfortunately he steps on his cape alot when trying to defend the defenseless, trips, then spews insult and innuendo in his embarrassed anger.
As opposed to flaming the forum like you do? If he's trying to be the "hero", then you gotta be the cheesy villain. I'd say you rank up there with Mojo Jojo. Maybe the Penguin.
Nah I did not flame the forum. People attack those with opposing views and call them flamers and trolls because they have a different opinion then the majority. But they forget it is a public forum and all views are valid. Wh
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CamelTowing said:...TenMidgits said:CamelTowing said:TenMidgits said:
Texaswireless has this issue with being the board super hero. Unfortunately he steps on his cape alot when trying to defend the defenseless, trips, then spews insult and innuendo in his embarrassed anger.
As opposed to flaming the forum like you do? If he's trying to be the "hero", then you gotta be the cheesy villain. I'd say you rank up there with Mojo Jojo. Maybe the Penguin.
Nah I did not flame the forum. People attack those with opposing views and call them flamers and trolls because they have a different opinion then the majority. But they forget it is a pu
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texaswireless said:
Why are you posting on Thanksgiving?
You truly have no life.
Lets see 1:34 AM Wednesday night.... technically posting on Thanksgiving LOL
You really try too hard man. No really. But alas you are a wrieless salesman. Used to stretching the truth, exxagerating and misleading. What can we expect? Honesty and forethought? Not
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nextel18 said:
lol.. the person who wrote that letter is STAN.
go to post https://www.phonescoop.com/carriers/forum.php ?fm=m&ff=4&fi=440061
"Stan Sigman: Clarification of Today's USA Today Article
Dear Colleagues,"
lol.. so it was stan who wrote this letter.. ED didnt write that letter.
When did we ever say that anyone other than Stan wrote the letter. Tex and I were speaking of the quotes on RCR news. Those quotes were Ed Whitacre????
I never knew it was humanly possible to screw so many things up....but you proved me wrong.
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i was talking about the letter, not about what anyone else said..
shame on you and tx.
shame on you.. you guys think alike. lol which is pathetic and sad..
last time.. i was talking about the letter not what ED wrote.
lol.
shame on you and tx.
shame on you.. you guys think alike. lol which is pathetic and sad..
last time.. i was talking about the letter not what ED wrote.
lol.
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I'm not confused at all, nor naive like you apparently. When I referred to the "lowly Cingular execs" I was merely describing their relationship to the real big dogs at SBC/at&t and BellSouth who will continue to call the shots for Cingular regardless of whether the Cingular execs like it or not. I think both parent companies are growing more and more alarmed that the Cingular execs are letting things get out of hand in terms of the head to head competition with Verizon -- Verizon is handing our arses to us in every single category (net adds, arpu, etc).
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Our size, national presence, and brand are definite advantages.
And then you woke up Sigman.
delivering on our 4Rs.
I know two!
Ripoff
Rape
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It's been posted on CSP(internal) and on many news sites. Somewhere up there someone said the 'lowly cingular execs' don't have a say. I dissagree. Cingular is run like any other company and even though it's owned by att, and bellsouth, the cingular execs still maintain control of the company. They aren't simply puppets. I'm sure att, and bellsouth have a strong say in the matter, they don't totally control the company in that aspect.
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