you are basically free of contract for a while. They give you six months to get out of your contract. if you dont they assume you are ok with it

that's actually 60 days.

I've already taken customers using this. It does work. The VZW sales reps are definitely not happy about it though, hahahaha. I called one rep up for a customer to cancel the account and she asked "do you work for Cingular?" and I said "mayyyybeeeee"

Needless to say she was pissed, but my customer kept her nearly brand new VX 6100 and is going to sell it on Ebay. Hooked them up with some phat P207s.

So if the government decides to raise taxes, anyone who has a wireless phone contract can cancel it without penalty?

How is a $0.40 fee raising the plan? The plan stays the same - $39.99 per month or whatever.

We arent talking about a government. we are talking about an agreement between a customer and a provider.

Its and "administrative charge" IE: straight into Verizon's pocket to cover their costs.

Their high rolling operaters pockets feel a little light lately. So they decided to add a charge for the the administration

the .40 isn't taxes... it's a charge verizon is attaching to all customer's accounts. Since it wasn't agreed upon at contract signing, the law stipulates verizon has to let customers out of contract with no penalty. We've actually posted signs in my store (cing) about this and have a few people ask about it.

hey are u sure about that cuz my dad wants to leave verizon to get cingular but his contract is'nt over tll october so are u sure he can get out of it without paying a fee?

Your dad like dropped calls and horrible customer service? or does he just want the razor so bad he can't wait till Dec.

tell him to check over his current and last bill to see if a .40 cent fee was added, or if their is a notice anywhere on the bill stating anything about the fee... if all else fails, tell him to call verizon and find out when the fee will be added to his bill.

freedomrep said:
Your dad like dropped calls and horrible customer service? or does he just want the razor so bad he can't wait till Dec.

holy crap you are a tool. nuff said.

just my 2 cents:

-the software is very responsive, fast menus
-the sound quality is phenominal - i was very impressed by it
-i might actually consider switching from my V3 if the opportunity arose.

that's perfectly correct. they call it an "administrative charge" and it'll be added Oct !st. This new charge will allow subscribers to terminate early without incurring an Early Termination Fee (ETF), since it will have a “material adverse affect” as detailed in the Terms and Conditions of Verizon contracts. Customers will have 60 days to exercise this right from the time they are notified by Verizon. In other words, roughly now until then end of October they will essentially be out of contract.

but upon looking at the VZW terms of service it states:

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THIS AGREEMENT STARTS WHEN YOU ACCEPT. Paragraphs marked "* " continue after it ends. You accept when you do any of the following things after an opportunity to review this agreement:

* Give us a written or electronic signature;
* Tell us orally or electronically that you accept;
* Activate your service through your wireless phone;
* Open a package that says you are accepting by opening it; or
* Use your service after making any change or addition when we've told you that the change or addition requires acceptance.
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so if the letter they send states that they agree to the change and continue their...
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here's more:

Our Rights To Make Changes
Your service is subject to our business policies, practices, and procedures, which we can change without notice. UNLESS OTHERWISE PROHIBITED BY LAW, WE CAN ALSO CHANGE PRICES AND ANY OTHER CONDITIONS IN THIS AGREEMENT AT ANY TIME BY SENDING YOU WRITTEN NOTICE PRIOR TO THE BILLING PERIOD IN WHICH THE CHANGES WOULD GO INTO EFFECT. IF YOU CHOOSE TO USE YOUR SERVICE AFTER THAT POINT, YOU'RE ACCEPTING THE CHANGES. IF THE CHANGES HAVE A MATERIAL ADVERSE EFFECT ON YOU, HOWEVER, YOU CAN END THE AFFECTED SERVICE, WITHOUT ANY EARLY TERMINATION FEE, JUST BY CALLING US WITHIN 60 DAYS AFTER WE SEND NOTICE OF THE CHANGE.
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the key there is the last sentence

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This is beautiful.

ALSO KEEP IN MIND

If you want to cancel, and get a sweet phone from say... oh, Cingular? You can still keep your phone that you cancelled with them! Just sell the thing on E-bay!

i posted a ton more info in the verizon forum.

it's also funny to see the Verizon reps react to these increases. Most are claiming it's mandated....LOL 🤣

Do you know if this new surcharge applies to Verizon Corp Customer accts - or just to Personal individual customer accts??

Thanks

It starts October 1st so you have until Mid November to cancel, just check their terms of agreement.

But think about it, you just got $150 off your phone and you can take it to eBay and sell it for $50 less than full price, pocket a $100 profit, get a cooler phone at cingular at $150 less than full price, and keep your number. Finally, the contract works in your benefit all around.

and take into consideration all of the new towers we are adding in november. Our coverage will definately compete

it already does, especially since we have a more versatile gsm network

that is the global standard

What a load of crap.

just like vzw
😉

I had cingular and I had to drop the contract after 6 months. I waited for a tower in my area to be installed like the rep said and then the idea was scrapped, so I called and whined about it. The ETF was taken off. I'm going with VZW now. Cingular's coverage in my area was awful. I kept getting only 1 bar and couldn't call people, roaming off Canadian towers and getting charged international roaming, then having to call and get those charges off. I got so fed up that I kept calling them and they finally let me go. Then again, Cingular might be OK in other areas. But through my experience, Verizon is the best in this area.

What area are you in?

i'm off to the side of niagara falls, in a smaller town called youngstown. the town named lewiston, between the falls and youngstown, has horrible service also.

that is a known issue and has been a point of the company to put a tower there for over 4 years, but something always falls apart, whether it be zoning issues, leasing issues, etc. we are willing to put one there, just need a good spot at a good cost and permission from the town without all the red tape.

which brings up a good point. all cell companies have troubles putting up towers in certain towns not because we don't want one there, or don't care, but because your glorious town either won't let us, or constantly changes the rules during the planning process to make it harder for us. or some retard wants $5000 a month rent to put it on their property.

people who complain about reception in their town when the towns around them have coverage should go to their town hall and see what they have to say about it. i bet they will at least acknowledge that "comapny A" has inquired about it, but i bet they won't go into detail about why its not there.

politics are great, huh?

Seriously, you need to buy a clue. In my area, cingy will drop calls like there is no tomorrow. Any why is that... because there are no towers in the area. I don't live in a very rural place, and I live on a major road on the east coast. Yet, they still can't put up a tower.
My best friend was a former ATTWS employee and left about 1 1/2 years ago. She just switched her service over from ATT GSM to Cingular GSM. She says the service is 200x worse. Her bill is always screwed up because they keep mysteriously removing features on her phone. Every month she has to call up for a credit.
The only 3 providers in my area that do have service is ATT TDMA, VZW, and Sprint. So why would I go with Cingular?
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springaf said:
It starts October 1st so you have until Mid November to cancel, just check their terms of agreement.

But think about it, you just got $150 off your phone and you can take it to eBay and sell it for $50 less than full price, pocket a $100 profit, get a cooler phone at cingular at $150 less than full price, and keep your number. Finally, the contract works in your benefit all around.

From the way I read and the way it was explained to me if you use the service after the change goes into effect you have agreed to the change. If you choose to cancel you must do it within 60 days from the date that VZW sent you the notice of the change. Which in my case is mid Oct. People need to check thei...
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obviously thats a general statement. Thats why i didn't give an exact day. duh. If you're not sure, give 611 a call. Talk to the billing and termination dept and they will tell you the truth, cuz they're being recorded, and pose the question straight forward. They'll answer the truth. And if it turns out that you can't use the phone then so be it, but its worth checking out.

springaf said:
It starts October 1st so you have until Mid November to cancel, just check their terms of agreement.

But think about it, you just got $150 off your phone and you can take it to eBay and sell it for $50 less than full price, pocket a $100 profit, get a cooler phone at cingular at $150 less than full price, and keep your number. Finally, the contract works in your benefit all around.

And why would I do this? So that I can get service from a company that has choppy call quality and drops calls in the middle of a major interstate? Please....I'll stick with Verizon.

do as you will, but churn on verizon customers has tripled this month. What say you?

springaf said:
do as you will, but churn on verizon customers has tripled this month. What say you?

Where is the proof??? Or is this just in your Cingy fanboy head since numbers won't actually be announced until sometime in late October?

I dont know where people get off saying their calls get cut off all the time and how Cingular drops calls repeatedly. Funny too - because I am using an AT&T phone that I unlocked and reflashed and flexed, and put on Cingular ENS. If anything, my totally modded phone should be the one subject to the most problems!

I rarely drop calls, if I do, who cares? I just call them back. No one gives a sh*t. And as far as call clarity goes, my calls are always crystal, unless I have maybe 1 bar.

Speaking of RF, I have found that my phone tells more of the truth as far as signal. I have a friend with a Motorola E815 that gets full bars ALL around the city I live in. Yet when he makes a call, the call can seem choppy in areas where I may be g...
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AshDizzle said:
I dont know where people get off saying their calls get cut off all the time and how Cingular drops calls repeatedly. Funny too - because I am using an AT&T phone that I unlocked and reflashed and flexed, and put on Cingular ENS. If anything, my totally modded phone should be the one subject to the most problems!

I rarely drop calls, if I do, who cares? I just call them back. No one gives a sh*t. And as far as call clarity goes, my calls are always crystal, unless I have maybe 1 bar.

Speaking of RF, I have found that my phone tells more of the truth as far as signal. I have a friend with a Motorola E815 that gets full bars ALL around the city I live in. Yet when he makes a call, the call can s

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SForsyth01 said:
How do you tell it to switch to T-Mobile specifically?

you have to SEEM edit your phone to enable the network menu to allow all options. one of the options lets you scan for all available networks and manually choose one (provided you are allowed to register on it)

jinx7676 said:

SForsyth01 said:
How do you tell it to switch to T-Mobile specifically?

you have to SEEM edit your phone to enable the network menu to allow all options. one of the options lets you scan for all available networks and manually choose one (provided you are allowed to register on it)

oh, and this is for Motos. modding other phones aren't so easy

I hate Verizon. It drops calls all the time. Takes 20 seconds to get thru. Cant get text that were sent if your phone is off. And if I had cingular I would have saved hundreds with rollover. Some months you dont use your minutes some months you do. I have a cingular and a verizon phone, cingular has better service and fairer in prices. I even have my sales rep cell phone number

I agree. The service is better. Its a prime spot to at least make money. Cancel and resign with cingular, sell your old phone for $25 less than full price on ebay, use some of that money to buy a better phone than you had before while saving $150 with the new activation. Easy cash and an easy out. There's no better deal than that in the cell phone business, except for rollover.

yea... rollover is my friend 😁 saved me 60.00 last month.. take that sprint/verizon/nextel/etc/etc lol

Silly? i think not, I probably average 5 vzw to cingular switches a day because of this. I think it's swell 😁

Bigern_McCracken said:
Silly? i think not, I probably average 5 vzw to cingular switches a day because of this. I think it's swell 😁

https://www.phonescoop.com/carriers/forum.php?fm=m&f ... »

Oh yah Bigern read this. Silly I say just plain silly.

cellutions79 said:
You guys are silly if you think VZW cust are going to switch to Cingy just because of a $4.80 a year charge per line. Yall are hilarious.

it has been happening quite regularly. post all the estimates you want, the fact is that the opposite of your statement has been happening. people HAVE been switching because of it. it's not the 40 cents per se, it's the proverbial "straw that broke the camel's back." Many customers with VZW feel they are nickel-and-dimed, and this one thing just puts them over the edge and they leave. I'd have to say 80% of my ports from verizon are for 2 reasons - Cingular's rollover and they mention how they feel nickel-and-dimed. Cingular offers more Value. you don...
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Well i am more than happy that you are expierencing success porting people from VZW. I am expieriencing an influx in port ins from sprextel. So i guess you could say what goes around comes around. god I gate cliches. Good luck to all Cingy reps, I am avoiding the flames and leaving it at that. Good Day!!