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BadAgent

Jun 30, 2005, 9:09 AM
oh silly customers, i sympathize with you because your american and that must mean you have no common sence, must be from all the pollution in your air. when you call in for customer service .. i'll say it slowly ... when YOU call IN to customer service for HELP ... why do you feel it necessary to take it out on the unlucky rep that answered your call and to make it seem like THEY are wasting YOUR time???
for example -- a customer called in to ask why he got charged long distance when he called China ... well ... is China not clear across the earth?? a little common sence my yankee neighbour!!
When I'm talking with you and ask to put you on a brief hold for 90 seconds to research your account, don't get annoyed with me, if you don't have t...
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hellfire666

Jun 30, 2005, 10:17 AM
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Digital Pimp

Jun 30, 2005, 10:31 AM
BadAgent said:
oh silly customers, i sympathize with you because your american and that must mean you have no common sence, must be from all the pollution in your air. when you call in for customer service .. i'll say it slowly ... when YOU call IN to customer service for HELP ... why do you feel it necessary to take it out on the unlucky rep that answered your call and to make it seem like THEY are wasting YOUR time???
for example -- a customer called in to ask why he got charged long distance when he called China ... well ... is China not clear across the earth?? a little common sence my yankee neighbour!!
When I'm talking with you and ask to put you on a brief hold for 90 seconds to research your account, don't get a
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muchdrama

Jun 30, 2005, 10:48 AM
Digital Pimp said:
BadAgent said:
oh silly customers, i sympathize with you because your american and that must mean you have no common sence, must be from all the pollution in your air. when you call in for customer service .. i'll say it slowly ... when YOU call IN to customer service for HELP ... why do you feel it necessary to take it out on the unlucky rep that answered your call and to make it seem like THEY are wasting YOUR time???
for example -- a customer called in to ask why he got charged long distance when he called China ... well ... is China not clear across the earth?? a little common sence my yankee neighbour!!
When I'm talking with you and ask to put you on a brief hold for 90 second
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muchdrama

Jun 30, 2005, 10:50 AM
muchdrama said:
Digital Pimp said:
BadAgent said:
oh silly customers, i sympathize with you because your american and that must mean you have no common sence, must be from all the pollution in your air. when you call in for customer service .. i'll say it slowly ... when YOU call IN to customer service for HELP ... why do you feel it necessary to take it out on the unlucky rep that answered your call and to make it seem like THEY are wasting YOUR time???
for example -- a customer called in to ask why he got charged long distance when he called China ... well ... is China not clear across the earth?? a little common sence my yankee neighbour!!
When I'm talking with you and ask to p
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JephMan

Jun 30, 2005, 10:54 AM
This is turning into one big he said she said thread πŸ™‚
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rep12345

Jun 30, 2005, 11:09 AM
It's not that either one american or canadian are the dumber of the two, there are stupid people in both cultures- there statistically are more americans- therefore more stupid americans than canadians. (not that they are stupider, you just come across them more often) I myself am Canadian but I have a lot of family over in the US, and I don't really find a lot of difference between us. It is kind of wierd how they wear their shoes in the house though. Anyways. I find that the American culture is generally more lazy and ignorant than they are stupid.
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Aleq

Jun 30, 2005, 11:57 AM
Laziness and ignorance know no national borders, and I for one would be a lot more comfortable if y'all would refrain from making this a national issue. Stupid individuals, no problem. Stupid [insert general category here] is generalization and shows a fair amount of both laziness AND ignorance in applying the labels. Even a cursory glance at some of the users on this board would show that not ALL Americans are stupid or ignorant, as well as showing quite a few Canadians who are, and therefore continuing to use a general label which has been disproven in specific examples is both ignorant and lazy in the extreme.

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themike314

Jun 30, 2005, 12:54 PM
Jay Leno apparently has no problem finding people for his 'Jay Walk' quizzes.

(Stupidity, idiocy, or whatever you want to call it - on display for the world to see. It's supposed to be entertaining, and it is funny, but it's scary. It's a testament to the lack of education in the American school system.)

Along the same lines is the game show 'Street Smarts'. These people are everywhere.

Then something worse, in my opinion: a college class did not know who Richard Nixon was.

(One of my friends graduated from DeVry last year. She was the only one in the class who knew who Nixon was. I would wager they had no knowledge of Johnson or Carter, either.)

Americans, all of 'em. As am I.

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Aleq

Jun 30, 2005, 12:58 PM
I find it chilling to see how many people are willing to undergo not just humiliation, removal of privacy and ridicule, but also outright danger just to "be on TV!" It's the cult of the imaginarily important run rampant--anyone who is "ON TV!" is automatically more important, even though all they did was show the entire world what a complete ass looks like. It's disgusting and sick and something I sure wish we could all be cured of, post haste! 😳
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rep12345

Jun 30, 2005, 2:41 PM
Paris Hilton comes to mind after reading your post.
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Aleq

Jun 30, 2005, 2:46 PM
Oh great, now I have that skank in MY head TOO! Way to share the wealth, thanks a pantsload... 🀣 You'd think that being filthy rich would be enough for her but noooo, she also has to be an attention whore and prove to the entire world that she's a bum lay as well... πŸ™„ Somebody shoulda drowned THAT litter! Or maybe she could have been some use as stem cells or something... hmmm, wonder if it could be retroactive... ponder, ponder... 😎
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rep12345

Jun 30, 2005, 3:26 PM
haha... and not only is paris hilton bad enough, but to make it worse her mother has a reality show now! COME ONE- don't they have enough publicity/money already!? who watches these mindless shows!? are we so bored with our lives we want to watch others? or is it that we lack sense of creativity so we just throw people together, and watch and laugh?
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Aleq

Jun 30, 2005, 3:31 PM
Whaddaya mean "we?" Got a mouse in your pocket? I don't have time for that crapola, gotta keep up with "The Shield" and "Rescue Me" and "Nip/Tuck" that's all I need for trash TV... that and Pulp Friday on IFC, which totally rocks!
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rep12345

Jun 30, 2005, 3:47 PM
welllll... i have a weak spot for trailer park boys... but thats a different genre all together.
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OrangeTSC

Jun 30, 2005, 4:30 PM
🀣 yeah kinda like BadAgent did 🀣

if u noticed he started the thread and has not made one reply!!!!

he threw the sh*t up and let it hit the fan 🀣

i'm an american but i wanna say Good Job BadAgent!!!!!
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akwash79

Jul 6, 2005, 3:27 PM
jessica simpson?
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muchdrama

Jul 4, 2005, 11:42 AM
themike314 said:
Jay Leno apparently has no problem finding people for his 'Jay Walk' quizzes.

(Stupidity, idiocy, or whatever you want to call it - on display for the world to see. It's supposed to be entertaining, and it is funny, but it's scary. It's a testament to the lack of education in the American school system.)

Along the same lines is the game show 'Street Smarts'. These people are everywhere.

Then something worse, in my opinion: a college class did not know who Richard Nixon was.

(One of my friends graduated from DeVry last year. She was the only one in the class who knew who Nixon was. I would wager they had no knowledge of Johnson or Carter, either.)

Americans, all of 'em. As am I.

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Eloi_in_the_far_Future

Jul 8, 2005, 11:12 AM
An interesting statistic I read a long while ago is that the majority of Canadians and Americans, after high school, do not read even one book. Scary, neh?
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LunaP20

Nov 22, 2005, 12:47 PM
Eloi_in_the_far_Future said:
An interesting statistic I read a long while ago is that the majority of Canadians and Americans, after high school, do not read even one book. Scary, neh?


I read quite a bit, from every genre; on average I read 3 700-page books a month, almost everyone I know does. I'm also Canadian. As my Statistic & Research Prof. once said Statistics are usually biased. πŸ™‚
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G-rad

Nov 22, 2005, 1:11 PM
well just look at our president. He is a word slurring old crack feind from texas who looks like a monkey!
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BadAgent

Jun 30, 2005, 11:09 AM
I sympathize with your problem with customers calling in being idiots...but I don't agree with you bashing americans. Are you in Canada or from there? I want to be sure, so that I can hand your ass to you in a post later.

I DID NOT BASH Americans, I called them silly ... How the heck do you even have to ask if China is a long distance call from the united states of america???
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Digital Pimp

Jun 30, 2005, 11:34 AM
I DID NOT BASH Americans, I called them silly ... How the heck do you even have to ask if China is a long distance call from the united states of america???

badagent said:
i sympathize with you because your american and that must mean you have no common sence, must be from all the pollution in your air.


This is bashing americans...

Idiot. Your complaining about the same stupidity you show. Use your little brain and think before you type.
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amagorno

Jun 30, 2005, 4:02 PM
RFLMAO...... 🀣
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Eloi_in_the_far_Future

Jun 30, 2005, 11:08 AM
Sorry. Americans are victims of a stale polluted culture. No quantity of nationalist reasoning can dispute this. True, it is unfair to take a group such as 'Americans' and attack them as the same group. Ad hominem absolutes aren't reasonable. But I am sorry for Americans, because of the drumbeat of propaganda and 2-second soundbytes of sensationalist nonsense that they're exposed to all the time. We cannot ignore the fact that the US declares itself the most peaceful democratic country in the world, and yet it has been at war (yes, WAR, yet some might euphemise some of the more discreet military actions) almost continually since the 40's. Sorry, but a country that deeply believes its own lies is in a sorry state, regardless of how you look a...
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Aleq

Jun 30, 2005, 12:10 PM
Don't you think it's a more than a bit disingenuous to assume that all Americans actually BUY that soundbite philosophy or are unable to discern the difference between fact and f*ckall? I've seen Canadians get incensed because of a media induced perception that they talk funny, or say certain things, or behave a certain way--generalizations arrived at by watching media and assuming that it accurately reflects the culture. Gander sauce, anyone?

The American government does things that many, MANY Americans disagree with profoundly, and to tar us all with Dubya's brush is insulting. We are not stupid, we defeated that ignorant f*ckhead TWICE in the elections but got screwed in the back end, first by his brother in Florida, then by Diebold ...
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ConvergysSlave

Jun 30, 2005, 12:16 PM
Maybe if you are going to be so arrogant we should stop buying your products.
I personally shop locally, and try to buy mostly made in canada products. Not because I hate America but because I would rather not give money to fighting wars and killing innocent people accross the world, and so I help my local economy.
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Aleq

Jun 30, 2005, 12:21 PM
I feel the same way, unfortunately I don't have much choice in the matter, and if I don't pay the taxes to fund that crap I get thrown in jail. It's easy to be critical when you aren't in the middle of something and it doesn't directly affect you--so be nice and stop kicking people when they're down. I suffer way more every effin' day from the actions of those sh!theads in Washington than anyone else who isn't in Iraq or Gitmo, but do I get any sympathy? Nope, all I get is a load of generalizations and crap from people who actually share my views and ought to try being a little more helpful. But thanks anyway, America is used to being the bad guy, but it's nice to be reminded often of how the rest of the world lumps us all together when t...
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Eloi_in_the_far_Future

Jul 1, 2005, 8:44 AM
Fine. I rescind any generalization I may have made concerning the American people. I still think your culture is pollution, and my mental environment is a lot cleaner since I started boycotting your media, but whatever. I know that canadians and americans are virtually identical, and the only way to tell the diffrence is to make that observation to a canadian. But what about the violence? Your country has been fighting, in some way or another, since WWII. How do you justify that? How do you support a country which has obviously proven itself to be nothing more than a thug to other countries? Your individual lives, I'm afraid, mean sh!t **** all. I am attacking the US, its policies, and the people who are too indifferent to change anything, i...
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dmdrpeon

Jul 1, 2005, 1:03 PM
There has not been a single generation of Americans who have not been to war. So? Peace is not an end, it is a means to ends, much the same as war is. The difference is that peace is cheaper. And as Machiavellis REALLY said, when faced with the ends, one must consider the means. That is the key argument: Do the goals of the US in the middle east justify war? In my opinion yes, in mamy of my friends no. That is why we vote, my good sir.
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Eloi_in_the_far_Future

Jul 1, 2005, 1:14 PM
So you support neo-colonial imperialism? Or worse, a government that avoids its domestic difficulties via ongoing war? Or do you believe that the reasons Bush gave are valid?

If you for one second belive that the US invasion was justified, I'd like to hear how. The only country that was in an uproar over Iraq was the US. Were they a threat? No. Were they under a brutal regime? Yes, but how many horrible dictators have been supported by the US? Lots. So regardless of why they said they went to war, the only apparent end was to control Iraq. Period.

Fascist fool! Don't bring Machiavelli into this. His was a world where conquest was a means, one that most of the world now finds intolerable.
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everman

Jul 1, 2005, 2:12 PM
It is my opinion that Americans take their "patriotism" too seriously. I can prove this with two words.
"freedom fries"
I dont feel proud to be an american, because I didnt do anything to deserve the freedoms I am allowed.
I feel lucky to be an American.
I won the lottery on that one. What if I had been born in a 3rd world country without toilet paper or pizza.
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Eloi_in_the_far_Future

Jul 1, 2005, 2:13 PM
Or cell phones!
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dmdrpeon

Jul 7, 2005, 4:43 PM
I find your reply funny! 😁 Fascist? Do you really know what that word means? If not, let me explain. Fascism is a theory of government that states that people, companies, etc., while entitled to the rights of property, etc. (read as anti-communist), still need to be "forced" into doing what the government has determined to be best for the state. That is to say, Authoritarian, nondemocratic thinking that only acknowledges limited personal freedoms and places the good of the state over stated individual freedoms. As I have repeatedly said, I vote, I encourage others to vote. I am not a fascist, though I get a good laugh out of you calling me that. You may disagree with my government, and with its policies. But the fact that I disagree ...
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Eloi_in_the_far_Future

Jul 8, 2005, 9:37 AM
Ok, whoa. I wasn't using the word at you to attack your argument, or you, really. You mentioned Machavelli (sp?), and I was attempting to convey the message that if you use his as a philosophy to defend war in this modern world, that is a reversion to fascism. The Prince was describing a successful ideal for a monarch, but it was authoritarian. Nondemocratic. Acknowledges limited personal freedoms (in fact, almost zero). It placed the good of the state over these individual freedoms. So boo on you. I wasn't falling victim to some perversion of Godwin's Law, I was naming the defense you raised as what it was: Fascism. I do not believe you, the US, or anyone on this thread can be accused of being a fascist, but I could make that argument for M...
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dmdrpeon

Jul 7, 2005, 4:56 PM
First of all, Sadam was anti-US and anti-Israel, and I believe that a war with Israel was inevitable for Iraq under his rule. Such a war would inevitably draw the U.S. into a much worse situation than we see today. Beyond that, please, PLEASE! when you talk about neo-colonialism and imperialism, please make a clear argument why you feel they are wrong and what you mean by them... define where that question is coming from, please.
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Eloi_in_the_far_Future

Jul 8, 2005, 10:20 AM
Ok, I said neo colonial imperialism, because it was said that war is a means to an end, but so is peace. Fine. Thinking of it that way, it seems that the interests of the state take precedence over the well-being and peaceful lives we, the people, strive for. If peace was a means, then it means that those who appreciate the peace (we, the people) have not a say on its perpetuation, because any of the state's "ends" could require war, at any time, and to consider peace is ludicrous, because it was only a means, and the ends of the state are more important than keeping the peace.

So, if the state decides that the conquest of a country, or peoples, or what have you, is within its interest, it will move to war. This is colonialism: extending...
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daddydogg_00

Jul 4, 2005, 4:37 PM
Hey at least americans are willing to stand up for what they believe in. If the World was made up of Canadians and French Osama Bin Laden would rule the world and there would be a nuclear holacuast on many continents. After all this the US has protected both of those countries many times. Is France Eastern Germany? NO YOU can thank the US for that. Hey if the US stopped importing canadian goods you could say goodbye to your economy so technically you cannot bite the hands that feed you. Anyways I thought this was a phone forum you should find some type of political column to bring up this subject.
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Eloi_in_the_far_Future

Jul 6, 2005, 9:51 AM
This is absurd. If the US really had that attitude, they wouldn't have waited 2 years to join WWII, they would have, you know, helped stop the global threat immediately. But they waited until they were attacked. The US also has a big issue with its own adolescence; they don't seem to realise that they are young, and that they have never had a major war fought on their soil. As far as your comment about nuclear HOLOCAUST and bin Laden, this is just stupid. The US is not a holy lance keeping evil at bay. In fact, the US is in the top ten on the list of human rights violations (Isreal, number 1!). Point is, the US has inflated its own image, but you forget, if it weren't for US meddling, Osama bin Laden never would have had the power (nor the m...
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daddydogg_00

Jul 6, 2005, 10:11 PM
We do not need to fight on our soil. And If bin laden is only attacking US interests why is their a statement in the news just this week that Canada is also on his list of Christian Nations that faces attack.Eh you ignorant punk.
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Link

Jul 6, 2005, 10:26 PM
Holy crap NOT OUR TWIN TOWERS!!!
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Eloi_in_the_far_Future

Jul 7, 2005, 9:00 AM
You're right.

I should have said "Nation's who perpetuate the spread of capitalism and western values" I single out the US simply because it are the binding force for this phenomenon: the US makes this its business.

Don't call me ignorant. Your thread was full of ridiculous claims and prejudice, and I have no doubt that you are indeed a big fool.
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Aleq

Jul 7, 2005, 3:14 PM
Hey, a group calling itself "Secret Organization of al-Qaida in Europe" claimed responsibility for setting off four bombs in England that killed forty people and injured hundreds more, so like it or not y'all are considered to be in the same boat with us as far as Middle Eastern terrorists are concerned. YOU might think there's a huge difference in outlook between the US and Canada, but to a Muslim terrorist you're just another rich infidel that needs blowing up.

As for "Nation's who perpetuate the spread of capitalism and western values" you might want to pay attention to the large volume of ostensibly American entertainment--movies, TV shows, etc., which are produced and filmed in Canada. Toronto alone must rake in a huge pile of cas...
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ConvergysSlave

Jul 7, 2005, 3:17 PM
We are not in Iraq pissing them off, so they are less likely to attack us.
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Aleq

Jul 7, 2005, 4:04 PM
And England is? πŸ™„
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ConvergysSlave

Jul 7, 2005, 4:09 PM
Yes Britain has troops in Iraq. They are like the US lap dog lately. Tony Blair almost lost an election because of Britains participation.
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Eloi_in_the_far_Future

Jul 7, 2005, 3:45 PM
I agree. I am not an I Hate America, I Love Canada retard. I think that western style opulence is spiritual and cultural poison, and I disagree with it. US, Canada, all. The US is bigger than us, and affiliated with more corporate and private interests, so is a bigger target. Sooner or later, Canada will be hit. Will I feel sad? Yes. Will I feel it was an act of evil? Maybe. I don't agree with religious wars, but I don't agree with the forceful application of "democracy" either
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Aleq

Jul 7, 2005, 4:23 PM
Then we're definitely on the same page-I don't want to get people killed so soccer moms can drive gigantic Humvees that get five gallons to the mile! Not Iraqi people, not American people, not European people, I'm just not a fan of warfare. Not a fan of terrorism, either, but I'm also not a pacifist... My solution is to take care of it retail rather than wholesale--assassination is just ducky, collateral damage is not.

And for the record, Muslim style theocratic religious oppression of its own people is pretty sucky, too. Beating women to death because the wind blew their burkas up over their ankles is sh!tty on so many levels that mere Western style laziness and comfort seeking pales in comparison. That stuff is just plain evil. An...
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muchdrama

Jul 8, 2005, 8:12 AM
Aleq said:
My solution is to take care of it retail rather than wholesale--assassination is just ducky, collateral damage is not.


Oh, I dunno...assassination for folks that are bent on destroying us? I could live with it.
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Eloi_in_the_far_Future

Jul 8, 2005, 9:04 AM
I agree with all of this. It seems to me that we sit here, across the pond, fighting each other over differences which are imperfect and undesirable. Its like fighting over a rotten sandwich while a buffet stands a short distance away.
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muchdrama

Jul 7, 2005, 3:56 PM
Aleq said:
Hey, a group calling itself "Secret Organization of al-Qaida in Europe" claimed responsibility for setting off four bombs in England that killed forty people and injured hundreds more, so like it or not y'all are considered to be in the same boat with us as far as Middle Eastern terrorists are concerned. YOU might think there's a huge difference in outlook between the US and Canada, but to a Muslim terrorist you're just another rich infidel that needs blowing up.

As for "Nation's who perpetuate the spread of capitalism and western values" you might want to pay attention to the large volume of ostensibly American entertainment--movies, TV shows, etc., which are produced and filmed in Canada. Toronto alone
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ConvergysSlave

Jul 7, 2005, 3:58 PM
so its okay to torture them.. and to not provide proof that these people locked up are even the ones who hate america. I'll tell you what!! If they didnt hate America before they would now... dont let them free!!!
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Eloi_in_the_far_Future

Jul 7, 2005, 9:23 AM
Oh, and you're right on another point, but you're only right when you consider sarcasm.

You don't need to fight on your soil? I'm sorry, what? You can run across the world, deploy your troops, kill many people, bulldoze (That's right, this happened in Gulf War I) over people as you march into the heart of some other country, destroying houses, schools, businesses; does the US empathize? NO! They don't care, the war is far away, news is limited to what the TV stations care about as 'news', and the people go about their lives. But you don't know. There is virtually NO part of europe or the middle east that has not seen war. These people watch their lives dissolve a bit more everyday, and you "people" don't give a good god damn, dismissing i...
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phoneslave

Jul 6, 2005, 11:40 PM
The US has never protected Canada from ANYONE. Why? Because no one has ever invaded or attacked Canada. Why? Because Canada is not full of arrogant bastards. Not choosing to join a war with no purpose other than to steal land and oil, and conform a country to what the US believes is the only way to live, is standing up for what they believe in. You just can't stand that for once Canada didn't follow Daddy America's lead in asserting their dominance over weaker countries.
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Aleq

Jul 7, 2005, 3:17 PM
Didn't you guys go play in the Falklands? What, were those penguins a threat to democracy? 🀣 Or did you just do it because Mommy England told you to? πŸ™„
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ConvergysSlave

Jul 7, 2005, 3:20 PM
We are not British anymore... We didnt have to fight to get away from them either, we just asked.
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Aleq

Jul 7, 2005, 3:51 PM
Yeah, we had to do it the MANLY way--with tea! And muskets! They don't make imperialistic colonial Brits like they used to... πŸ˜›
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ConvergysSlave

Jul 7, 2005, 3:56 PM
And how many American and British lives were lost?? They could have all lived and things could have been done through diplomacy.
No those imperialistic colonial Brits are pretty much all gone. The old ones remaining... still thinking as north america as a colony.. 😁
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muchdrama

Jul 7, 2005, 3:59 PM
Aleq said:
Yeah, we had to do it the MANLY way--with tea! And muskets! They don't make imperialistic colonial Brits like they used to... πŸ˜›


Tea can be pretty scalding.
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muchdrama

Jul 7, 2005, 3:57 PM
Aleq said:
Didn't you guys go play in the Falklands? What, were those penguins a threat to democracy? 🀣 Or did you just do it because Mommy England told you to? πŸ™„


Whoa, whoa, whoa...the Falklands were tough, babe! It took, like, 2 hrs to take those islands.
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Aleq

Jul 7, 2005, 4:02 PM
muchdrama said:
Aleq said:
Didn't you guys go play in the Falklands? What, were those penguins a threat to democracy? 🀣 Or did you just do it because Mommy England told you to? πŸ™„


Whoa, whoa, whoa...the Falklands were tough, babe! It took, like, 2 hrs to take those islands.


Them penguins are tough little barstards, no wonder it took so long! 🀣
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phoneslave

Jul 7, 2005, 11:30 PM
DISCLAIMER: When I say GENERALLY I do not mean EVERYONE.


My points were just that Canadians, generally, are not forcefully patriotic, nor are they really arrogant about being Canadian in the way that the majority of Americans I have observed are, and as a result other countries don't really find it necessary to attempt us in our place by attacking us.

And also for once Canada didn't do what the US wanted it to do and like petulant children many Americans pout and whine and tell us that we have no pride and do not stand up for what we believe in and that's crap.
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phoneslave

Jul 7, 2005, 11:57 PM
oops, I just reread that last sentence, first paragraph should read: "...attempt to put us in our place..." My bad. 🀭
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Jldnr77

Jun 30, 2005, 12:35 PM
Are you still whining about that? BUSH WON!!! Get over it seriously...or I'll dub you a little losing cry baby like Al Gore. Because if you remember, if wasn't Bush who keep demanding the recounts, it was GORE. So keep whining and crying like a little loser, and I hope someday you manage to get over this great occurence that you consider a tragedy.
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ConvergysSlave

Jun 30, 2005, 12:39 PM
Sorry Aleq, I see what you are saying πŸ™‚ I know there are lots of great Americans, however it is the government not the people that is portrayed in the media. The world saw Bush being elected a second time as a refirmation that the American people stood behind his polices. It doesnt help when you have fools like Jldnr77 that love bush so much πŸ™„
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Aleq

Jun 30, 2005, 12:45 PM
See what I deal with every day? And I'm a blue-stater... πŸ™„ I can only imagine what it's like in the Midwest--I'd probably blow my head off in like five seconds from the pressure of the stupidity and jingoistic, knee jerk "me-tooism" around me... πŸ˜›
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themike314

Jun 30, 2005, 1:10 PM
It's thick out here, if you catch my drift.
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Aleq

Jun 30, 2005, 1:39 PM
I do indeed, my friend... πŸ˜‰
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Jldnr77

Jun 30, 2005, 1:17 PM
Fool?? Yeah, let's have Mister Al "I invented the internet" Gore in the office...yeah...that would go great. Or maybe John "I'm a ***** and won't retaliate" Kerry. Gotta love him too...both really great candidates. Sorry, all I'm saying is the best man one...I'm not saying Bush is that great a person, but I am saying that he was the better man. So, the best man one. Which in your opinion, I guess is a really big slam to the democratic candidates, but oh well...that's all I'm saying.
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Aleq

Jun 30, 2005, 1:37 PM
Jldnr77 said:
Fool?? Yeah, let's have Mister Al "I invented the internet" Gore in the office...yeah...that would go great. Or maybe John "I'm a ***** and won't retaliate" Kerry. Gotta love him too...both really great candidates. Sorry, all I'm saying is the best man one...I'm not saying Bush is that great a person, but I am saying that he was the better man. So, the best man one. Which in your opinion, I guess is a really big slam to the democratic candidates, but oh well...that's all I'm saying.

For those of you who are not sense-impaired, kindly scan the above and see for yourself the caliber of person who thinks Dubya belongs where he is, and who no doubt helped put him there. Can we all say "farra...
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Jldnr77

Jun 30, 2005, 2:36 PM
So while I'm sitting at work, typing responses between calls, because I don't want take the time to debate with you the intellectual reasons why I don't want a liar or a (insert female orifice here) in office, I'm of "low caliber"???? Go **** yourself, and then go to hell. How's that for caliber? Have a frickin nice day.
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themike314

Jun 30, 2005, 2:59 PM
You already have a liar in office.
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Aleq

Jun 30, 2005, 3:02 PM
Jldnr77 said:
So while I'm sitting at work, typing responses between calls, because I don't want take the time to debate with you the intellectual reasons why I don't want a liar or a (insert female orifice here) in office, I'm of "low caliber"???? Go **** yourself, and then go to hell. How's that for caliber? Have a frickin nice day.

Well, that's about what I would expect, but thanks for reaffirming my world view. I'm typing between calls in queue as well so I have a tough time sympathizing with your plight. I have no problem taking time to explain why I don't want a stupid, uneducated, chickensh!t, dishonest, draft dodging daddy's boy in office and I'm willing to buck the Patriot Act assholes to keep o...
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Jldnr77

Jun 30, 2005, 3:34 PM
Bite me, I simply wrote what was implied. Secondly, every one of those characteristics is still ten times better than Gore's or Kerry's characteristics. Thirdly...him being stupid is a matter of your own personal opinion. Him being uneducated may or may not be accurate, but stupid is simply opinion. Fourth, yeah GWB has really proven that he's chickensh!t, let me tell ya. You want to sit here and complain that GWB is chickensh!t when John Kerry said in front of the entire nation that he would not launch any military effort without the U.N's approval??? John Kerry's entire campaign was based on trying to improve America's image with other countries...in other words, he wanted to try to kiss everyone's a$$. And a$$kissers aren't known f...
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ConvergysSlave

Jun 30, 2005, 3:37 PM
No instead he makes the US look horrible by ignoring the rest of the world. Maybe listning to the rest of the world would make people less likely to hate the US and want to attack them in the first place??? Just a thought.
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Aleq

Jun 30, 2005, 3:45 PM
"Pardon him, Theodotus, he is a barbarian and thinks that the customs of his tribe and isle are the laws of nature." --George Bernard Shaw, "Julius Caesar"
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Aleq

Jun 30, 2005, 3:52 PM
And as I already stated to you, you inferred what I did NOT imply. You drew your own inference based on your own inherent perception of the weakness of your rejoinder and failure to buttress your point.

Yeah, and appointing Bolton to be ambassador to the UN even in opposition to his OWN PARTY is such a smart move--definitely the way you want to present yourself to the world. Dubya is that really sh!tty neighbor you get every so often with the cars up on blocks and shooting off guns in the middle of the night and running a crank lab in the toilet... thinks he can do anything he wants and f*ck the neighborhood... πŸ™„

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phoneslave

Jul 6, 2005, 11:50 PM
That was very well put.
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Aleq

Jul 7, 2005, 3:59 PM
Thank you--did my acrimony show at all? 🀣 I took calls from three people being deployed to Iraq today and I feel so bad for all of them...
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cingutech

Jun 30, 2005, 4:56 PM
....and dont forget dubya was a cheerleader. 🀣 🀣 🀣
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themike314

Jun 30, 2005, 2:16 PM
www.downingstreetmemo.com
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Aleq

Jun 30, 2005, 2:26 PM
"Never try to teach a pig to sing, it wastes your time and annoys the pig." --Robert Heinlein
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themike314

Jun 30, 2005, 2:51 PM
🀣

I love that quote.
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Aleq

Jun 30, 2005, 3:05 PM
Yeah, me too--it goes through my mind often as I attempt to teach customers about self help options... πŸ™„
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daddydogg_00

Jul 4, 2005, 4:40 PM
Maybe bush is not the greatest but Al Gore or John Kerry? Get real, I made a good decision voting for Bush and hey there has been no attack on US soil for almost five years now so he has done what he needed to on that front.
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rep12345

Jul 7, 2005, 4:26 PM
another election sham anyways. kerry would have never made it in the running - we all knew that. the only reason alot of people would have voted for him would be for default because they disagree with bush so much. but alas, another election scam. for portraying themselves as so dumb, that bush family is pretty smart. too bad they don't care about the american people though, just the revenue.
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judog2g

Jun 30, 2005, 1:43 PM
Eloi_in_the_far_Future said:
Sorry. Americans are victims of a stale polluted culture. No quantity of nationalist reasoning can dispute this. True, it is unfair to take a group such as 'Americans' and attack them as the same group. Ad hominem absolutes aren't reasonable. But I am sorry for Americans, because of the drumbeat of propaganda and 2-second soundbytes of sensationalist nonsense that they're exposed to all the time. We cannot ignore the fact that the US declares itself the most peaceful democratic country in the world, and yet it has been at war (yes, WAR, yet some might euphemise some of the more discreet military actions) almost continually since the 40's. Sorry, but a country that deeply believes its own lies
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dmdrpeon

Jul 1, 2005, 12:59 PM
We are no more "Victims" here than in Canada. Every organization has a political agenda. Your media, Government, Church (if it applies) all will tell you to believe in certain things. Some groups will even go as far as to lie. That is universal. EVERYONE deals with that. If you want to rail against something, then, rail against politics in general. Personally, I am NOT a victim. I researched the issues, and voted my conscience. If you can say the same where you are, then my hat off to you, but don't belittle my choices by calling them the result of me being "victimized."
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Eloi_in_the_far_Future

Jul 1, 2005, 1:23 PM
Just because you don't sneeze, doesn't mean you don't have a cold πŸ˜›
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everman

Jul 1, 2005, 2:40 PM
now my concience is like a cold?
I am not sneezing, and last time I checked Bush was pro life. Ill fight a war for that.
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Eloi_in_the_far_Future

Jul 1, 2005, 3:01 PM
No, just because you have a vote and you can be informed, doesn't mean that the choice isn't tainted. That's what I meant, and if you read the context I used it in, you'd see that.

Where did the pro-life comment come from? Sorry, is the US waging war on abortion participants, or are you deluded about the cause they invaded Iraq? Because, if you'll remember, it was over WMD. Oh, wait, then it was to get Saddam. WAIT! Then it was to 'liberate' the people of Iraq. So, where did the comment come from?
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phoneslave

Jul 6, 2005, 11:57 PM
For someone who is "pro-life" (which I don't agree with either, but that's another story) he thinks nothing of distroying so much of it in the name of oil and power.
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rep12345

Jun 30, 2005, 1:49 PM
I don't think the very first comment in this thread was to start a political arguement- it was just referring that americans as a whole are an ignorant race- regardless of how many good people there are, there are many many ignorant people in america. and that, is a fact. there are also ignorant people in canada, and im sure every contry alike, but the US of A takes the cake, regardless of which political party you stand behind, the general attitude that americans are and will forever be better than anyone stands firm in most americans eyes.
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Aleq

Jun 30, 2005, 1:55 PM
Americans are not a race, they are a nationality. And not a terribly homogenous one at that, regardless of outside perception. I have less in common with most Midwesterners than I do with most Europeans, and at times I think that includes language...
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rep12345

Jun 30, 2005, 2:14 PM
I don't believe ever once, did anyone including myself group you in with the statment that the people of american Nationality are ignorant; yes, it is a generalization, but yes, it's true. Not all are like that, but many.
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Aleq

Jun 30, 2005, 2:41 PM
My point with all this is to emphasize that as soon as you accept a generalization as a truth your mind tends to shut down and all rational thought ceases. The generalization becomes truth, something "everyone knows" and accepts as gospel, then it's used as a springboard to launch more general statements that have just as shaky a foundation as the original one. Exceptions are ignored, even when those "exceptions" actually outnumber the original sampling that produced the generalization. And of course there HAS to be some truth in a stereotype, otherwise it wouldn't catch on so easily and be so hard to eradicate. Avoiding stereotyping and generalizations as a matter of course is just good sense and keeps your head clear to evaluate informa...
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rep12345

Jun 30, 2005, 2:48 PM
That makes complete sense and I fully understand what you are getting at. I apologise to you and any one else that I may have generalized. Sometimes, I suppose, it seems like most americans I see on TV, meet in person, and have any interactions with are missing their common sense. Perhaps it is a misconception, perhaps I am brainwashed by the media like almost every other person in the continent of North America. It is hard for me to take your full opinion of this though, as I'm sure you will not take mine. So I will agree to disagree. I definately do not think "Americans" are stuipd, or dumb, or idiots in general, and I don't remember stating that. I simply said that as a whole, the nation presents much ignorance and arrogance- and I realiz...
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Aleq

Jun 30, 2005, 3:06 PM
Classy answer, thank you! πŸ˜‰
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rep12345

Jun 30, 2005, 3:08 PM
😁
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Aleq

Jun 30, 2005, 3:12 PM
And don't get me wrong, I am PAINFULLY aware of how America presents itself to the world. As I've stated elsewhere here I tend to tell people I'm Canadian when I travel just to avoid the inevitable yadda yadda that comes along with 'fessing up to American citizenship. If you think it's easy watching even the advertisements for "reality" shows and knowing I'm being painted as boorish and moronic as the contestants themselves you are woefully incorrect... I love my country but sometimes I wish I could lay waste to about 85% of the populace thereof... πŸ™„
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rep12345

Jun 30, 2005, 3:22 PM
Although Canadians have a much friendlier reputation through out the world, I have a theory about our Nation as well- Canadians tend to slid by, (some what lazily) during school, work, etc- bare minimum required is what alot are doing lately - again not everyone , but alot. Now, I see MANY MANY succsessful asian busisness people and many asians active in the canadian government. Most of the asians that immigrate to Canada for whatever reason (school, work, family) become very successful (not all but most) and they work extremely hard thru school etc to get where they are... Anyways, If us Canadians don't get our act together, and step up (also many of us young canadians arent even voting!) we will lose our place in our own country's gover...
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ConvergysSlave

Jun 30, 2005, 3:29 PM
My theory is that whoever studies harder deserves to do better. And these Asian people you are referring to are just as much Canadian as anybody else. Us Canadians are made up of every race, colour, creed, religion and ethnic background (that is what makes us so special). Canada is a nation of immigrants about 20% of our country has not even been born in this country, (the rest have all came to our shores from somewhere else at some point) and comments like yours perturb me.
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rep12345

Jun 30, 2005, 3:38 PM
I wansn't stating that we are any better than the "asians" here. I have many asian friends. I don't necessarily think it's "wrong" for them to run our government either. they have an equal place here. I'm just saying that if we don't work harder we will lose our place, and I never said anything against whoever works harder deserves to do better, because that is entirely true. maybe before getting "perturbed" by a comment, think about what someone is saying. Also , just a small note, I don't think per say, if a lot of white people went to Japan and decided to work their asses off we would get into office there, only in canada. I completely understand if they were born here, then yes, they are canadian. none of us origionate here. but for the...
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ConvergysSlave

Jun 30, 2005, 3:41 PM
But who are 'we'. The 'we' that will lose our place, because there have been Asian people here for over a hundred years??? Those of what descent??? Because we are all different, hard to lump us as a group.
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rep12345

Jun 30, 2005, 3:44 PM
"we" are the canadians of all races who have been reproducing here for the past 100 years- after most of "our" grandparents immigrated here.
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ConvergysSlave

Jun 30, 2005, 3:46 PM
Exactly. We are of all races. So you are saying that Asians who have been here for awhile need to look out for those new asians who have just moved here?
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rep12345

Jun 30, 2005, 3:56 PM
yup. pretty much. nah, you read too much into what i was initially stating. I'm just saying if "we" as canadians (culture wise, not race wise) don't start participating in elections, and trying hard to be our best, we will have a completely different culture and government structure, and it just seems like asians for the most part are the people who are prospering and immigrating here. I am no way ratially impartial to Asians, but personally I like our Canadian atmosphere, and I would like to keep things this way, or close to.
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bluesnot

Jul 7, 2005, 3:51 AM
That's me!
Bare Minimum Girl!
Lazy and apathetic, I'm just doing what I need to get by.

Dean: "You got a 95% in General English last year. You're work is great. I think you'd be more challenged in Advanced English. Whadda ya say?"

Bare Minimum Girl: "Neigh Good Fellow. General for me. I'm happy with my good grades and my slacking off, Thank you very much."

On a related topic, our school system is STRESSING the bare minimum. When I was in grade 12, they held the first standardized testing for grade 10. Our English teacher was responsible for administering and correcting the tests, and her instructions stated the answer had to follow EXACTLY the question.

ex. Write one sentence using the word procrastinate. Write 2 sentences and ...
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captainplooky

Jun 30, 2005, 2:31 PM
Go **** yourself
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ConvergysSlave

Jun 30, 2005, 2:42 PM
Do you feel better now?? Like you accomplished something?
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themike314

Jun 30, 2005, 3:16 PM
Hey, it's Dick Cheney!
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Aleq

Jun 30, 2005, 3:33 PM
Well, you're HALF right... 🀣
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texaswireless

Jul 6, 2005, 10:18 AM
That's beneath you, or so I thought.
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working_for_the_devil

Jun 30, 2005, 3:56 PM
One thing that I’ve learned working for this company…..never argue with a dumba$$, they will drag you down to there level and beat you with experience
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Jldnr77

Jun 30, 2005, 4:11 PM
ROFLMAO
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FlyDog

Jun 30, 2005, 4:53 PM
It's not being American that made them stupid bastards, they did it all on their own.
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ATT_IS_DEAD

Jul 4, 2005, 12:10 PM
Look at This :

Ohio

No one may be arrested on Sunday or on the Fourth of July.

It is illegal to fish for whales on Sunday.

It is illegal to get a fish drunk.

The Ohio driver's education manual states that you must honk the horn whenever you pass another car.

It is illegal for more than five women to live in a house.

Owners of tigers must notify authorities within one hour if the tiger escapes.

It's illegal to catch mice without a hunting license.

You cannot eat a doughnut and walk backwards on a city street.

It is against the law to roller skate without notifying the police.

A policeman may bite a dog to quiet him.

Throwing a snake at anyone is illegal.

Riding on the roof of a taxi cab is not...
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rep12345

Jul 4, 2005, 12:23 PM
who writes these laws? im sure they have expired. some seem rediculous. others i can beleive.
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Letsgopense

Jul 7, 2005, 9:40 AM
In Pense it's illeagal to leave your horse alone in town without hitching it to a hitching post. and i know that there's still something you can do that is punishable by tar and feathering. can't remember what though
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rep12345

Jul 4, 2005, 12:25 PM
what if i was rollerskating backwards while eating a donut after throwing a snake at a policeman biting a dog while riding a roof of a taxicab on the fourth of july? no one gets arrested?
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ATT_IS_DEAD

Jul 4, 2005, 12:31 PM
Anyone in OHIO ??

Let's get someone to try this ?

LMAO 🀣
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ATT_IS_DEAD

Jul 4, 2005, 12:55 PM
Here's Some More Stupid Yankee Laws

Alabama
It is illegal for a driver to be blindfolded while operating a vehicle.
Alaska
It is considered an offense to feed alcoholic beverages to a moose.
Florida
Having sexual relations with a porcupine is illegal
Georgia
It is illegal for a chicken to cross the road
Louisiana
You may not tie an alligator to a fire hydrant
New Hampshire
You cannot sell the clothes you are wearing to pay off a gambling debt
New Mexico
It's forbidden for a female to appear unshaven in public
New York
The penalty for jumping off a building is death
It is illegal for a father to call his son a "******" or "queer" in an effort to curb "girlie behavior."
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rep12345

Jul 4, 2005, 3:05 PM
i don't get it? do people follow these? can't have sexual relations with a porcupine? in just one state? last I checked beastiality was illegal in all of north america.
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MistaBlue1914

Jul 4, 2005, 3:06 PM
They are just law that were never erased from the books, cant walk backwards eatting a doughnut. Yeah arrest me for that and I will be a rich man thanks to the state!!
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rep12345

Jul 4, 2005, 3:15 PM
haha makes sense. i wonder why these laws were ever created? how would that be an offence? i understand the whole don't have sex with or give animals booze laws haha. but even 100 years ago what damagae is rollerskating or eating a donut backwards gonna do? and things such as riding a cab on the roof? common sense? as well as hmm.. my tiger got away... oh well. i'll just go on with my day now.
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jamesm

Jul 7, 2005, 5:05 PM
thanks for these laws they have made my day. 🀣

And for the good news i just saved a bunch of money by switching my car insurence to gieco
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insider

Jul 7, 2005, 2:28 AM
Resons why:
1)All the movies are made in Canada
2)GM,Ford, and Chrysler are based in Canada.
3) Food: Mcdee's, Burger King, Subway..all from Canada.
4) Pfizer, Merch, Johnson and Johnson, who make medicine All from Canada.
5) War- Canada, fought in: Vietnam, Korea, first Gulf war, by the way the peaceful canadiens sent 30,000 troops to SE aisia to fight w/ USA source:
http://archives.cbc.ca/IDD-1-71-1413/conflict_war/vi ... »


http://www.cardmedia.com/tools/cma_household.cfm »

PLus canada house hold income level is only 23,000 compared to US at 43,000 source, wow canada is so great thy only need half the money! lol. Your national sport, hockey, is played professionally in mostly the US. Think about that. http://www.census.gov/pro...
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bluesnot

Jul 7, 2005, 4:10 AM
uh oh.. People are going to freak when they see this...

I personally like Canada better than the US, and I certainly think it's better, but I know not to say that in the vicinity of americans.
Reason being I think Canada is better, but they think their country is better. You can't argue when neither side is going to budge.

People will eventually start insulting others, or attacking each other's spelling and punctuation. When that starts to happen everyone should just throw in the towel, because it's going nowhere.
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muchdrama

Jul 7, 2005, 10:41 AM
insider said:
Resons why:
1)All the movies are made in Canada
2)GM,Ford, and Chrysler are based in Canada.
3) Food: Mcdee's, Burger King, Subway..all from Canada.
4) Pfizer, Merch, Johnson and Johnson, who make medicine All from Canada.
5) War- Canada, fought in: Vietnam, Korea, first Gulf war, by the way the peaceful canadiens sent 30,000 troops to SE aisia to fight w/ USA source:
http://archives.cbc.ca/IDD-1-71-1413/conflict_war/vi ... »


http://www.cardmedia.com/tools/cma_household.cfm »

PLus canada house hold income level is only 23,000 compared to US at 43,000 source, wow canada is so great thy only need half the money! lol. Your national sport, hockey, is played professionally in mostly the US. Think abo
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rep12345

Jul 7, 2005, 10:57 AM
I'm from Canada and I have a wicked tan! ;) no bright white for me. No speedo for me either. although I'm not a fat man... but hey, not everyone from canada lives in an igloo and hides from the sun! 😎
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Letsgopense

Jul 7, 2005, 11:00 AM
my tan is just a bunch of freckles. but then i'm a red head πŸ™‚
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rep12345

Jul 7, 2005, 11:01 AM
i wonder why ppl call red heads "carrot tops" because, in my view, a carrot top is green, not oranger (red) so therefore, wouldn't you be a carrot bottom? πŸ˜‰
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Letsgopense

Jul 7, 2005, 11:23 AM
lol. that's funny. i never understood that either since i don't even have the orange hair some red heads have. it's a beautiful luscious copper colour. my hair dresser tells me that he has women that would kill to have my hair colour
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muchdrama

Jul 7, 2005, 12:18 PM
Letsgopense said:
lol. that's funny. i never understood that either since i don't even have the orange hair some red heads have. it's a beautiful luscious copper colour. my hair dresser tells me that he has women that would kill to have my hair colour


Mine's a deep, rich, mocha brown. Delish.
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RaiseTheBar

Jul 7, 2005, 12:31 PM
lol mines hot pink and i love it
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nygiants

Nov 22, 2005, 9:13 PM
mine is a sweet blond, mmmmm the ladies love it.
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rep12345

Jul 7, 2005, 3:19 PM
Letsgopense said:
lol. that's funny. i never understood that either since i don't even have the orange hair some red heads have. it's a beautiful luscious copper colour. my hair dresser tells me that he has women that would kill to have my hair colour



haha lucious! i've never heard a guy use that word before. cute. you are a guy right? haha i always assume by ppls posts / names, i could be mistaken tho!
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Letsgopense

Jul 8, 2005, 10:06 AM
Yup I'm a guy lol .I like using big words. It makes you sound more eloquent.
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