Where Does Cingular Use 850 MHz?
I understand that Cingular started out with 1900 and is adding 850.
I'm currently with T-Mobile and I'm happy with my unlocked Motorola V600. However, T-Mobile V600s are only tri-band 900/1800/1900, they do not have the 1900 band. I'm thinking of switching to Cingular but want to keep my 1900 only V600.
I'm in Southern California. Where does Cingular use 850? How many percents of the network are 850 in California and nationwide? Thank you very much.
I'm currently with T-Mobile and I'm happy with my unlocked Motorola V600. However, T-Mobile V600s are only tri-band 900/1800/1900, they do not have the 1900 band. I'm thinking of switching to Cingular but want to keep my 1900 only V600.
I'm in Southern California. Where does Cingular use 850? How many percents of the network are 850 in California and nationwide? Thank you very much.
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well hmm lets see . we have had 850 for quite a while because it travels farther and penetrates buildings better ! and tmobile is the ones just starting to add in a very few places .so i cant tell you exactly where 850 , but i can say that if you come to cingular you dont want to go without the 850 band it is used the most ! if you come with the v600 without the 850 you probably not like it because your signal would likely suck
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Yep. True. I am trying to remember your original post here, but I think that you said you are usuing it in Cali, right? I THINK that most of California uses 900 though. That is what a co-worker told me, but I dont know for sure.
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NOT correct guys. While it was 1900 Mhz, the divesting and unwinding of the T-Mobile joint ownership in CA will result with T-Mobile owning the 1900 Mhz spectrum. Cingular will be using the 850 Mhz spectrum aquired in the AT&T Wireless purchase.
I can't tell you the progress of the conversion, but in the long term Cingular will be 850 Mhz throughout most of CA, and pretty much 100% of So Cal (I think Ventura county might have been 1900 Mhz on the former AT&T Wireless side as well).
I can't tell you the progress of the conversion, but in the long term Cingular will be 850 Mhz throughout most of CA, and pretty much 100% of So Cal (I think Ventura county might have been 1900 Mhz on the former AT&T Wireless side as well).
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While we took over ATTWS 850/800 network in Cali, we do have use of the 1900 network sold to T-Mobile for 4 years. In my previous post I did not mention the future of the network as Texaswireless pointed out. So while you do not need the 850/800 right now, you will by 2008. (The deal was set in 2004.)
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THE BOX said:
we have had 850 for quite a while because it travels farther and penetrates buildings better ! and tmobile is the ones just starting to add in a very few places .
And T-Mobile isn't 'adding it' they are getting roaming agreements with some regional carries that support 850/800. In order for T-Mo to 'add' they would need to purchase new spectrum, which is scarce right now. That's why they are waiting for the FCC to auction off new bands for 3G.
if you come with the v600 without the 850 you probably not like it because your signal would likely suck
Depends on where he is... please don't tell people their signal will suck if they do not have 850/800. I live in sout...
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ok look and listen if it was acceptable to have a phone without the 850 band why don't we sell them ?? and i will tell you this i don't care where he lives he will not be able to get the full cingular service and signal without the 850 band ! and ill guarantee that he will have problems ! so you get off my ass and quit jumping on every thing that i post too . I assume that you do not work for cingular because if you did you would never tell a customer that it is ok to use a phone without the 850 band !
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Again. In Cali, he will not have the problem. I think I was pretty thorough with my explanation. I told him where his phone would and wouldn't work. I have a copy of our 850/800 coverage with ATT included, do you?
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what ever man you obliosly have a problem with me because youre always jumping me posts or replies ! you need to think about what you post . You should never tell a customer that its ok to use a phone that does not come from us for 1 when there is a problem they will say well so and so said its ok to use it . And if he has a signal issue ,which he will at 1 time or another the 850 band will come into effect and he will be without service. again never tell anyone to use a phone taht does not support are service !
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I jump in anytime anyone states incorrect info. Don't take it personal. And I only post when I know I'm right or when I can help someone out.
If a customer comes to Cingular and says they have their own equipment, fine by me, that's still a one year contract.
Also, I use plenty of phones with no 850/800, you can't use the 1900/850 at the same time anyway... ask around...
If a customer comes to Cingular and says they have their own equipment, fine by me, that's still a one year contract.
Also, I use plenty of phones with no 850/800, you can't use the 1900/850 at the same time anyway... ask around...
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ok when did i say anything about using at the same time ?? never dont put words in my mouth ! ill repeat myself you never tell a customer to use a phone without the 850 band ! i assume by you posts that you are in sales ???
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THE BOX said:
if you come with the v600 without the 850 you probably not like it because your signal would likely suck
Ok. you didn't say it, but you implied that by not having an 850/800 band built in, their signal would suck... If someone comes to Cingular and wants to bring their own equipment and are fully educated on the limitations if they travel, then that is their responsibility. T-mobile offers phones we don't, if they are in a 1900 coverage area and don't plan to travel, why not let them sign up. We don't loose money on the phone and we get a contract out of them.
and no I am not in sales...
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I agree and disagree with this entire line of conversation. Yes, it is most definitely true that Cingular doesn't use 850 exclusively over it's entire network, but, personally, I would never recomend buying a phone that doesn't have 850, nor would I ever buy a phone that doesn't have it. Buyer beware.
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you are 100% full of shlt, like i have said before in a similar post, i have an unlocked a630 and it does not have 850 and works great wherever i am. no problems whatsoever
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850 used the most? i doubt that, i have an unlocked a630 and it dont have 850 and works GREAT.
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well what works fine for oyu wont work fine for everyone ! you probably live in an are that has both freq . thats fine for you but i still dont recommend it !
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quick comment....exclamation points....if you use them all the time, they loose their meaning 🙂
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Sorry, he is right. Now you will be ok while Cingular still has roaming agreements with T-Mobile, but if they axe those you will see your coverage drop significantly.
Also depends on what area of the country you live.
Also depends on what area of the country you live.
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Cingular never had 850 coverage in California. It was 1900 from the beginning. ATT had 850 coverage there, but we have plenty of coverage there in 1900, in fact, for a few years, T Mobile used our network before we sold it to them.
While in Cali, you will no problems with your phone. If you go to south Texas, Louisiana, Florida, north Mississippi, Alabama and west Tenn. those are our main 850/800 markets.
We do have 850/800 overlapping our 1900 in Chicago area D.C/Maryland, Arkansas and a few places here and there. But where we didn't have legacy 1900 coverage, ATT did.
You're phone will work... 850/800 is needed most definitely, but if you do not travel out side of Cali, go for it.
While in Cali, you will no problems with your phone. If you go to south Texas, Louisiana, Florida, north Mississippi, Alabama and west Tenn. those are our main 850/800 markets.
We do have 850/800 overlapping our 1900 in Chicago area D.C/Maryland, Arkansas and a few places here and there. But where we didn't have legacy 1900 coverage, ATT did.
You're phone will work... 850/800 is needed most definitely, but if you do not travel out side of Cali, go for it.
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Hello Moto said:
Cingular never had 850 coverage in California. It was 1900 from the beginning. ATT had 850 coverage there, but we have plenty of coverage there in 1900, in fact, for a few years, T Mobile used our network before we sold it to them.
While in Cali, you will no problems with your phone. If you go to south Texas, Louisiana, Florida, north Mississippi, Alabama and west Tenn. those are our main 850/800 markets.
We do have 850/800 overlapping our 1900 in Chicago area D.C/Maryland, Arkansas and a few places here and there. But where we didn't have legacy 1900 coverage, ATT did.
You're phone will work... 850/800 is needed most definitely, but if you do not travel out side of Cali, go for it.
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You're welcome. But FYI... There was an issue with the V600 being used in the 850/800 markets, but it was less than 1% of the phones sold to Cingular... But you should have no problems.
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Hello Moto said:
You're welcome. But FYI... There was an issue with the V600 being used in the 850/800 markets, but it was less than 1% of the phones sold to Cingular... But you should have no problems.
Before anyone corrects me, I know this phone was bought via T-Mo... I don't know if it was from Moto or Cingular software...
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