ATTWS phone on cingular network...
If I were to purchase an unlocked GSM phone and use it with my ATTWS contract and phone number, would it pick up CIngular towers? Would this increase my signal strength, decrease my dropped calls, and give me "More Bars" as Cingular advertises??
Thanks for your input.
jack1435 said:
What does the phone have to do with it? if it is a newer phone which has both gsm technoligies 850/1900 and it is unlocked it goes by what information they send to the sim card!!!
Actually is does matter.If its a newer Cingular phone, then its ENS capable phone, with dual access to both networks, but all the phones att branded were designed to pick up its primary carrier, if its unlocked and used it on the cingular side ,thats only means it will search for its primary carrierwhich would be congular, it still won't pick up the att network, unless there is no cingular signal.
you can go and buy a new VCR, it still won't play DVD's in it.The fact is that an unlocked phone does change the softw...
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jack1435 said:
what is ENS capable?
means dua; network capable, old blue phones can't do it
jack1435 said:
and what is the dua network? please explain in detail thanks jack!
Sorry meant DUAL network, let me explain, i had to take much training and want to let some pour out to make room for more 🤣
All phones pre merger, phones manufactured prior to nov 15,2004 were built with 1 function to search for and use its primary network , "att" picked their network and, then if no signal at all then any other carriers signal, would ber picked up and used, same deal with cingular phones cept their primary was cingular.
After merger, the phones being made and sold were ENS capable phones to use both network equally so not to choose one then look for another, it would automatically search for the...
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jack1435 said:
its intersting all this to me i have a nokia 6230 which was never locked to any network does that have any problems with cingular? also my mother sisster and 2 brothers use a nokia 3100 and 3120 unlocked origanaly aws and have no problems i compared the servise signal and its the same now i know for fact that aws here has a weaker 1900 signal and cingular put up a 850 towwer 1/2 a mile from my house and they are obviously picking that up all the time not just once a while?
Listen i've better things to do, i've explained it you, and i'm not going through it again, you can do what you want. if you have service issues using aws phones on cingular service, don't call in and ask for help or ask i...
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jack1435 said:
at this point i will argue wiyh you being that 1 you did not give me a valid answer why i have no problem with my unlocked aws 3100/3120 phones and 2 because i do work in the cellular industry i sell phones and prepaid sim cards for people going abroad! also in europe the carriers are not realy the ones selling the phones you go to the local electronic store and buy it unlocked so i dont think the whole europe is wrong thats the reason why the phones get sold to other countreis before the us cause the carriers dont have to put all there media mall crap on the phones!!!
First of all this is the last post on this will reply to on this subject.Oooh you sell phones to be used abroad, congratulat...
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mahylo said:
I know from reading on these threads that newer Cingular phones can operate on old ATTWS towers, but the vice versa is not true of old ATTWS phones and Cingular phones.
If I were to purchase an unlocked GSM phone and use it with my ATTWS contract and phone number, would it pick up CIngular towers? Would this increase my signal strength, decrease my dropped calls, and give me "More Bars" as Cingular advertises??
Thanks for your input.
No, I can truly Tell you NO!, the fact is that you are only got the "Raisin the Bar, if you migrate over to the New Cingular, thats the whole point of you watch the comercials.If you stay on the ATTWs systems you will have only Access to the former attws to...
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That's stupid. Cingular acquired infrastructure -- so any "Blue" customer should still benefit.
On a trip from Pittsburgh to Rehoboth Beach last summer, I got excellent signal from BOTH ATTWS and CINGULAR cell sites. Do you guys mean to tell me NOT to expect the same service on my trip this year???
johnny_one_rate said:
What happended to all the former ATTWS sites ??? Surely they are now CINGULAR. Do you think CINGULAR execs said "OH, these old ATTWS cellsites are not CINGULAR, so former ATTWS customers will NOT benefit from "raising the bar???"
That's stupid. Cingular acquired infrastructure -- so any "Blue" customer should still benefit.
On a trip from Pittsburgh to Rehoboth Beach last summer, I got excellent signal from BOTH ATTWS and CINGULAR cell sites. Do you guys mean to tell me NOT to expect the same service on my trip this year???
You are kidding right? Either that are you are pretty naive, cuz they are doing that way, and if you think they(blue) customers are get the benefits of the...
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I was an ATTWS Cuatomer for 6 years and JUMPED at the chance to migrate before the buy out became official. no sense in sticking with a dying company. Yeah I lost some promo minuts I gained on my last contract before going month to month but roll over has more than made up for those and I preferred to be with the :host" company rather then the one being phased out.
I went from 100 amonth to $39 a month and have the same minutes each month (now after building a roll over bank. I did not want to sign a contract because I wanted to make sure the service would be stable. Now that Im moving my main base from Las Vegas to Myrtle Beach, SunCom has the better deal. B...
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kingfrog77 said:...
I don't understand the reluctance of ATTWS customers to migrate to Cingular.
I was an ATTWS Cuatomer for 6 years and JUMPED at the chance to migrate before the buy out became official. no sense in sticking with a dying company. Yeah I lost some promo minuts I gained on my last contract before going month to month but roll over has more than made up for those and I preferred to be with the :host" company rather then the one being phased out.
I went from 100 amonth to $39 a month and have the same minutes each month (now after building a roll over bank. I did not want to sign a contract because I wanted to make sure the service would be stable. Now that Im moving my main base from Las Vegas to Myrtle
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temp said:...kingfrog77 said:
I don't understand the reluctance of ATTWS customers to migrate to Cingular.
I was an ATTWS Cuatomer for 6 years and JUMPED at the chance to migrate before the buy out became official. no sense in sticking with a dying company. Yeah I lost some promo minuts I gained on my last contract before going month to month but roll over has more than made up for those and I preferred to be with the :host" company rather then the one being phased out.
I went from 100 amonth to $39 a month and have the same minutes each month (now after building a roll over bank. I did not want to sign a contract because I wanted to make sure the service would be stable. Now that Im moving my mai
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Customers with other carriers who make remarks like yours may act like rollover is nothing, but I doubt that you'd be complaining if it suddenly got added to your plan.
As a former sales rep for a Cingular dealer, I can testify that rollover is the number one reason that people would cite for leaving their previous carrier & porting over to Cingular.
Will
What are the last 4 of your cell number? I know it is 8XX-7XX-????. I guess I had you saved to the phone and not the sim.
I called Moto CS again, still no word. They just recieved a bunch of new tracking numbers today, you might want to call.
It looks like I am opening up my own stores with Cingular. I have been working on locations and I have the financing secured. THe only disadvantage is that I have to start at the sub-dealer level, and there is no money give to me by Cingular. I am starting out in Bridgeport, and am looking at opening in Stephenville and Wichita Falls. Sure could use a hard working young lad like yourself!!
Hope your day gets better. Talk to you soon.
Will
I've got an unlocked blue phone with a cingular 64K sim card. The only difference with mine is I get primary service from either network due to the new SIM which balances the networks.
Probably not that big of a deal. I get good coverage. You will too.
I had wonderful service when I travelled from Pittsburgh to Rehoboth Beach, DE. I travelled PA Turnpike thru Frderick MD to Annapolis, MD cross the Bay Bridge -- service could not have been better.
Through the whole trip, my phone's banner read "ATTWS" and through Delaware, a combination of ATTWS and Cingular. Can I expect to have the same service this summer.
If you want access to really good signal, migrate over to the "new cingular" otherwise suffer with the crappier "blue signal" BTW i am a "blue rep" and i can tell you cuz other customers have the same issues now!!!!!!!
Cingular has to honour the plan you were on when att went out of business...
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