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Testing shows AT&T 3G network outperforming VZW

thickjake

Dec 8, 2009, 4:00 PM
AT&T’s mobile data network problems compared to Verizon’s are mainly problems of perception, according to independent testing firm Root Wireless. On most critical performance metrics, AT&T’s 3G networks comes out on top, they say

http://telephonyonline.com/3g4g/news/att-outperforms ... »
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300zxATT_VZW

Dec 8, 2009, 4:58 PM
I have the Droid on Verizon and the Tilt 2 on at&t and at&t is definately faster. I still won't complain to much about Verizon's 3G speeds concidering I have 3G pretty much everywhere.
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bojmir

Dec 8, 2009, 5:28 PM
Personally, i'd rather have 3G everywhere albeit slightly slower, over 3G only in the cities I work and visit that are much faster. I realize it costs more to upg to 3G for GSM/UMTS but its still something I desire.
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Anxiovert

Dec 8, 2009, 10:15 PM
bojmir said:
Personally, i'd rather have 3G everywhere albeit slightly slower, over 3G only in the cities I work and visit that are much faster. I realize it costs more to upg to 3G for GSM/UMTS but its still something I desire.


And AT&T gets laughed at when pointing out EDGE (which is just a bit slower then 1xRTT)
EDGE is EVERYWHERE!
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Menno

Dec 9, 2009, 11:11 PM
but there is a huge difference between edge/1xrtt and 3g (evdo or hspda).
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wizardofCroz

Dec 11, 2009, 2:04 PM
If the difference you're talking about is download speed, there isn't much difference. EDGE averages 256 kbs. 1xEVDO averages 300-500 kbs. Granted, thats a huge step and a broad spectrum as to what EVDO can hold, but still, I find it asinine that Verizon can compare "3G" coverage when their 3G is 3 times slower than AT&T, and AT&T's EDGE network is almost just as fast as Verizon's 3G network.
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Menno

Dec 11, 2009, 11:10 PM
No, I mean there is a huge difference between

EVDO Rev A and Edge

Edge is nowhere near the speed of Rev A
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WonkotheSane

Dec 14, 2009, 11:59 AM
True, but how much of that map V is promoting everywhere is Rev.0 and how much is Rev.A (or B)? From what I understand, V considers any EVDO service to be 3G.
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Menno

Dec 14, 2009, 4:03 PM
All verizon native coverage is EVDO rev A. They spent a TON of money upgrading all their towers. So if you want to know what part is Rev A, look at their prepaid map. The only places that arn't rev a are a couple holdouts from alltel (and Verizon is refitting those towers now, one of the reasons customers in those areas are complaining about coverage atm. towers are being reworked) and the very few areas verizon roams on 3g, they may be Rev0

If you go to their website and look at Vcast coverage, anything listed as Broadband access is Rev A. National Access is Rev0.

Now compare that to when you see an ATT commercial proclaiming the wonders of their fast 3g network, and so you go to their website and you have to zoom in pretty far be...
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AshDizzle

Dec 11, 2009, 7:45 PM
Anxio, did you mean slower than EVDO?

AT&T EDGE is capable of over 200 kbps, whereas Verizon's 1XRTT data is capable of 153, real world speeds around 50-100.

Verizon's 2G is slower than AT&Ts.

Verizon's 3G is slower than AT&Ts.

Falling back on EDGE really isn't that bad. You still get decent speeds.
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Menno

Dec 11, 2009, 11:11 PM
Then why did ATT spend so many years making 3g=Data? They are the one's who did this to themselves. If they advertised anything other than their 3g, verizon's ads wouldn't be that big of a deal.
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saktrnch

Dec 12, 2009, 8:07 AM
Anxiovert said:


And AT&T gets laughed at when pointing out EDGE (which is just a bit slower then 1xRTT)
EDGE is EVERYWHERE!


I wish EDGE was everywhere. Then I wouldn't get so many dropped calls, and my phone wouldn't spend so much time searching and no service.
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jrfdsf

Dec 12, 2009, 4:28 PM
saktrnch said:

I wish EDGE was everywhere. Then I wouldn't get so many dropped calls, and my phone wouldn't spend so much time searching and no service.

Yeah, too bad AT&T coverage isn't everywhere like Verizon--garbled, unintelligible conversations are FAR better than none at all.
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GraGG

Dec 12, 2009, 4:28 PM
edge does not determine phonecall capability Wink
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insider.

Dec 11, 2009, 12:52 PM
very interesting article. the numbers especially.
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PACWEST

Dec 14, 2009, 3:33 AM

Roger Entner, senior vice president for telecommunications research at Nielsen, said the iPhone’s “air interface,” the electronics in the phone that connect it to the cell towers, had shortcomings that “affect both voice and data.”

And

He explained that his company’s tests of AT&T’s data network were done with handsets other than the iPhone, which does not allow non-Apple programs like his to run in the background.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/13/business/13digi.html »
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Sigma1570

Dec 14, 2009, 11:44 AM
Its all a ploy to sell more iphones when VZW starts carrying them.
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deltasigmatheta

Dec 14, 2009, 9:53 PM
Then do you think the non comittment price will come down on the iPhone for ATT?
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Menno

Dec 15, 2009, 6:38 AM
no, that is the retail cost. the only way that price will drop is if the technology becomes obsolete or if carriers stop offering subsidized prices on the phone. No commitment prices are set largely by the phone producers, not carriers.
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deltasigmatheta

Dec 15, 2009, 10:18 AM
ok... thanks
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Azeron

Dec 14, 2009, 12:33 PM
Let's have a go at it.
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Anxiovert

Dec 14, 2009, 10:39 PM
The iPhone has poor radio signal, that's been already established... Laughing
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