Multiple phones, family plan, SIM cards
Sorry if I'm the zillionth person to ask this type of question. I couldn't find an existing thread that matched my question.
Let's say I get 4 phones on a family plan, (2)regular phones (non-PDS/smartphones) AND (2) Blackberry Bolds. Later I cancel the subscriptions for the (2) BB Bolds and pay the early cancellation fees (2 x $175), would I be able to use the SIM cards from the (2) regular phones in the BB Bolds??? Would the ATT system still detect the BBs and charge for data?
Call me crazy but my wife and I want to use BB Bolds for voice/texting AND for synching calendars, contacts etc. with our PCs via Outlook BUT we do NOT want to use the internet. YES, this is another attempt to NOT have to pay for data that we do NOT wan...
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Let's say I get 4 phones on a family plan, (2)regular phones (non-PDS/smartphones) AND (2) Blackberry Bolds. Later I cancel the subscriptions for the (2) BB Bolds and pay the early cancellation fees (2 x $175), would I be able to use the SIM cards from the (2) regular phones in the BB Bolds??? Would the ATT system still detect the BBs and charge for data?
Call me crazy but my wife and I want to use BB Bolds for voice/texting AND for synching calendars, contacts etc. with our PCs via Outlook BUT we do NOT want to use the internet. YES, this is another attempt to NOT have to pay for data that we do NOT wan...
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This is what I want to do as well. That's why I say eff you corporate america trying to get me to pay for crap I don't need.
Just want free stuff.
Just want free stuff.
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What incentive does corporate America have to create new innovative devices if there is no profit involved?
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Charge a price for the phone that makes a profit or come up with more reasonable price, lower volume data plans. At $30/mo. for a data plan, over 3 years, that equates to OVER $1,000. Unlocked BB Bolds are available on Amazon for app. $550. Are people losing money at that price?
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Since you seem to be so smart, come up with an all-encompassing solution for the majority of America's cell phone customer base who want every phone for free.
There is no easy answer to this. The $30 data plan is an investment that has the potential to save you even more money by saving you the time of checking emails and going to a computer to do other tasks.
There is no easy answer to this. The $30 data plan is an investment that has the potential to save you even more money by saving you the time of checking emails and going to a computer to do other tasks.
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Wireless carriers make no money on the equipment. If consumers were willing to pay full retail and just purchase rate plans then maybe the model would change. However consumers want the latest and greatest phones for free and cheap rate plans with no contracts. I'm sorry but WTF?
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Why not give us the option?
I would buy a BB at a "fair", not inflated price, if I'm not required to get an expensive data plan. Who knows, some/many customers who buy such phone might decide they want data at a later date.
I would buy a BB at a "fair", not inflated price, if I'm not required to get an expensive data plan. Who knows, some/many customers who buy such phone might decide they want data at a later date.
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What do you mean by full retail price of BB? The normal price with a data plan? I'm not aware of an option to pay a diff. price w/o data.
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Verizon gives you the option. With Verizon a customer can walk in the door and purchase a phone at full retail price and not be required to sign a contract. Or a customer can bring their own equipment (obtained from a friend, purchased on ebay etc...) and have it activated with no contract. It is called Month-to-Month.
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data IS required for PDAs, dont get a bold if you dont want it.....its what you buy a smartphone for.
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It is my understanding that as of Sept 6, 2009, ATT now requires data plans for smartphones.
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yes for new and upgrading cust. not ones that already had one on there plan before.
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using the other SIM cards in the Bolds will result in the Data plans being added to the account automaticaly...only way around it would be to save the 175 term fees, add that to the what you would pay for the phones, and buy unlocked equipment...
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you could buy an unlocked phone and use that.. I don't work for ATT, but from what i've heard, if you provide an unlocked (unbranded) device, you can activate it without the internet package.
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If I get an unlocked BB, do I use a SIM card from another activated phone?
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You can use your current SIM on an unlocked BB phone, and you will NOT be required to get a data plan. If you use an unlocked phone, you will only be able to talk and send SMS.
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Oh really? Well guess what? Because I have higher standards than ATT, I have been using an UNlocked/UNbranded Nokia N95-3 since December of 2007 and I can indeed do internet on my phone! MMS too btw! Hs!!!
And my next phone is going to be unlocked/unbranded too. All I need from ATT is a frinkin SIGNAL, that's it. I don't need any of they're phones because I have higher standards than ATT does.
And my next phone is going to be unlocked/unbranded too. All I need from ATT is a frinkin SIGNAL, that's it. I don't need any of they're phones because I have higher standards than ATT does.
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This is an example of a CUSTOMER using a device exactly how the CUSTOMER wants to use it without they're damn carrier TELLING them how to use a decvice that they OWN!!!
Yet just another example.
Yet just another example.
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Ok mr Customer wanting to use the phone the way you want to. Is it your network? No it isn't it's att's. And if ATT wants to tell you you need to pay for something to use specific equipment on THEIR network guess what? They can because it's THEIR network not YOURS. You want to use whatever phone you want at whatever price you want? Build and maintain your own network and service. Until then shut you freaking piehole already it's getting old.
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Your obviously not a consumer, your what's called corporate mouth piece!
And guess what, I have an unlocked/unbranded phone, because it's none of ATT's business what phone I use.
And guess what, I have an unlocked/unbranded phone, because it's none of ATT's business what phone I use.
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Jayshmay said:
Your obviously not a consumer, your what's called corporate mouth piece!
And guess what, I have an unlocked/unbranded phone, because it's none of ATT's business what phone I use.
corporate mouth piece?...you must listen to a lot of rage against the machine, think the worlds going to end in 2012, everyone has microchips implanted in their heads and the kennedy assasination was a government plot too right?
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It actually is AT&T's business what phone you use. If you don't like that go elsewhere. The complaints are getting old.
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He should buy an unlocked phone then, isn't this still a loophole? (and it should end up being cheaper for them)
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Yep, I have an unlocked/unbranded phone, N95-3. But October next yr I'm getting the N900 and switching to Tmo.
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IM NOT TRYING TO GET YOU TO SWITCH. But if your options are open to other networks and if you're wanting a PDA with no data plan, look at the Verizon Wireless XV6900 (HTC Touch) for 9.99, Motorola Moto Q9m for 49.99, or the Verizon Wireless SMT5800 for 99.99.
Again, these do not require a data pack. I was just saying that IF your options are open for other networks, to look at these phones.
Again, these do not require a data pack. I was just saying that IF your options are open for other networks, to look at these phones.
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Unfortunately, those phones all suck! And yes I DO own the XV6900. I only use it as a tethered modem however. That 5800 is garbage. They should pay you to walk out the store with it honestly. The Q9M is a Motorola. Enough said. Switching to Verizon is NOT an option if you want a Blackberry. ALL Blackberries on Verizon have ALWAYS required a data plan.
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Um, no. Thats if you want to add tethering. Unlimited PDA/BlackBerry data is 29.99.
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That is correct. In this context, all they want is email which is $29.95. If you want to actually use a web browser, then you're up to $45.
Ugh.
Ugh.
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Unlimited BlackBerry email and web on Verizon PDA/BlackBerrys is 29.99. If you want to add tethering its 45.00 all together.
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Ok, well then they need to update their web site. I was helping someone pick a phone on their site last week, and I just confirmed it again this morning.
Pick a Blackberry from their web site, pick 450 minutes and the options for data are:
Email @ $29 and web browsing at $45. For my area, the distinction is that you don't get full internet access with the $30 plan.
If you sell phones for Verizon, then you're in a better position to know. But if the web site leads a customer to believe something different, Verizon has a problem.
Pick a Blackberry from their web site, pick 450 minutes and the options for data are:
Email @ $29 and web browsing at $45. For my area, the distinction is that you don't get full internet access with the $30 plan.
If you sell phones for Verizon, then you're in a better position to know. But if the web site leads a customer to believe something different, Verizon has a problem.
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It says:
Email and Web for BlackBerry® $29.99/month
If you want tethering you must get the 44.99 pack. Other then that, the Email and Web for Blackberry is unlimited BlackBerry/PDA web browsing and email.
Email and Web for BlackBerry® $29.99/month
If you want tethering you must get the 44.99 pack. Other then that, the Email and Web for Blackberry is unlimited BlackBerry/PDA web browsing and email.
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The 29.99 Unlimited Email and Web is all one needs unless one wants Wireless Sync in which case one will need the 44.99 Unlimited PDA feature. If one wants to tether then if one is on the Email and Web for 29.99 they will charge you 30 for the Mobile Broadband Connect feature and if one has the 44.99 Unl PDA feature they will charge you 15 to tether. If you plan to tether your data will add up to 59.99 per month which is basically a hook to try to force you to go ahead and add a USB modem or data card to your account. Don't do it though...that is another contract you have to keep versus just canceling a feature whenever you like.
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All 3 phones have terrible reviews on Verizon's site (2 - 2.5 out of 5).
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The motorola Q9m is a great phone. I think many people get it mixed up with the Motorola Q9c. The 9m is the new verison of the 9c. The XV6900 has a shoter battery life then smartphones now, but if you're not using data, you shouldn't have a problem. The SMT5800 was a great phone, but now with the TP2 and all, it doesn't look like its worth anything. If you are going to use this for calls, text, and sync you will be fine with these phones. And if you choose to look into this, you have 30 days and if you do choose to live them at the end of your 30 days, Verizon will let you bring your number over so you can keep it.
If you have any other questions, feel free to ask.
If you have any other questions, feel free to ask.
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This is a good phone if you don't mind waiting for it to respond to your commands. I mean, this thing is s-l-o-w. It was the last phone I owned with Verizon, and one of the reasons I jumped ship.
If it's been upgraded since then, ok. I'll have to take your word for it. But even as just an email and contacts PDA/kinda-smart-phone, it is barely functional.
Love Verizon's coverage, hate their phones.
If it's been upgraded since then, ok. I'll have to take your word for it. But even as just an email and contacts PDA/kinda-smart-phone, it is barely functional.
Love Verizon's coverage, hate their phones.
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Every network puts there own software on phones. The enV Touch, enV2 and 3 have unlocked bluetooth, apps, ect. and you can change the themes on it. You can't use Google Maps because of BREW, but we are changing to Java with our new 4G LTE network.
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I was informed that if a customer wants to purchase a pda phone from att at retail they wouldn't have to add a pda package to there plan. I was interested in the blackjack II because of the mobile office. I have use of the mobile office that wouldn't require me to have a pda package.
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The only Q9m that I found on the Verizon site was a preowned phone. It is listed as a smartphone but does not require a data plan. Apparently discontinued?
What is a TP2?
What is a TP2?
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