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If Verizon Had Gotten The iPhone Instead Of AT&T...

jrfdsf

Mar 27, 2009, 5:43 PM
The iPhone Excuse
by f38urry Yesterday, 6:15 PM
The New York Times

March 26, 2009, 5:40 am

The iPhone Excuse

By Sam Grobart

A couple of weeks ago, my colleague Matt Richtel - a handsome devil if ever there was one - spoke truth to power. He said the thing that no one was saying, yet needed to be said. Here it is in a nutshell:

For all its abilities and powers, the iPhone is a tremendous pocket computer, but a lousy phone.

And he’s absolutely right. I’ve owned an iPhone 3G since Christmas, and I could add my voice to the growing angry chorus. See, before I was with Apple and AT&T, I was a Verizon customer for years. And I don’t know what it’s like where you live, but here in 212/718, you can...
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sckoisks17

Mar 27, 2009, 7:07 PM
...they would have put their own crappy UI on it, killed the phone, nobody would have wanted it, and Apple would have never gotten into the wireless industry again.
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Menno

Mar 28, 2009, 9:45 AM
Verizon doesn't touch Smartphone UI's, the iphone is a smartphone. Nice try though.
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Kayslay34

Apr 2, 2009, 1:08 PM
lol iphone isn't a smart phone, its just like the instinct, its not a pda or smart phone.
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CrZyDrVr

Apr 2, 2009, 1:26 PM
Kayslay34 said:
lol iphone isn't a smart phone, its just like the instinct, its not a pda or smart phone.

Are you kidding me??? You must wake up every day and tell yourself that. Apple has set the standard of new PDA's so high and now everyone is trying to compete. Your right it might not be labled a PDA but it is far better then most PDA's. The instinct has nothing on the iPhone and can not be compared to being even remotely close to the same kind of phone. WOW I can't believe you would even say something that stupid in public.
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Kayslay34

Apr 2, 2009, 7:32 PM
CrZyDrVr said:
The instinct has nothing on the iPhone and can not be compared to being even remotely close to the same kind of phone. WOW I can't believe you would even say something that stupid in public.


picturemail...video recording....speech to action.... turn by turn gps....removable and multiple batteries and also removable mem....mobile sync... real insurance.... just off the top of my head.
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GraGG

Apr 2, 2009, 7:56 PM
is no where near a pda, but its a great toy... whenever someone buys this phone for business i automatically assume they are a douch
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Kayslay34

Apr 2, 2009, 8:02 PM
thank you, you have a brain.
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Kayslay34

Apr 2, 2009, 8:03 PM
Kayslay34 said:


picturemail...video recording....speech to action.... turn by turn gps....removable and multiple batteries and also removable mem....mobile sync... real insurance.... just off the top of my head.


Not saying instinct is better..... but you said it had nothing over the iphone.....
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Menno

Apr 2, 2009, 1:59 PM
The iphone requires a data package. It is made to integrate with email and the web seamlessly. it IS a smartphone. It doesn't have windows office support (yet) but it does have word processing and spreadsheet capabilities.

Please tell me how it ISN'T a smart phone?
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Kayslay34

Apr 2, 2009, 7:35 PM
Doesnt have any type of office support or spread sheet capabilities, was not geared to be a smarthphone, was geared as a music, web browsing touch phone. And it was revolutionary at what it did for the cell phone industry. Im not knocking it, im saying its not a pda... IM sorry its not a bussiness phone, its no blackberry, or touch pro, or palm device... Just because a device requires a data plan does not mean its a pda.
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dromant

Apr 2, 2009, 7:44 PM
Agreed. It was meant to be more of a multimedia phone, with enhanced web browsing, YouTube, apps, etc. Its more of a cross bewteen an handheld gaming device and cell phone, than a PDA.
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Menno

Apr 2, 2009, 9:50 PM
Spreadsheet: http://www.tuaw.com/2008/10/02/first-look-spr eadsheet-for-iphone/

Steve jobs was working on push email and syncing it with outlook, I believe they pulled it though.

It was geared as a non-business smartphone.
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Kayslay34

Apr 3, 2009, 11:10 AM
You still haven't explained on how it is a smart phone....... All you keep doing is throwing what could have been added or apple will add this soon.
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Menno

Apr 3, 2009, 11:40 AM
It is built around keeping the user connected. not only through the use of the phone, but connected through email, networking sites, the web, etc.

No, it is not "like a blackberry" because it's not a business focused phone. Until the advent of the iphone, most smart phones were business phones by default because that is why they were created, and they were the only customer subset that seemed ok with paying for a data plan.

Then the iphone launched and marketed itself as a media device for the rest of us. It was cool, it was hip, and it was apple.

So is the iphone a business smartphone? No. It won't be as long as it can't connect to enterprise servers.

But it is still a smartphone in that it is created in keeping you act...
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Kayslay34

Apr 3, 2009, 2:30 PM
PDA/Smartphone are the same thing... dumbphone doesnt mean the phone is not on par or better than a pda, it just means its not a phone made for mobile computing and syncing and creating documants for work and being connected to a enterpise email... pda's/smartphones were made for people who wanted a a handheld device that was a mobile computer for bussiness and a phone.
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Fleance2k5

Apr 5, 2009, 1:21 AM
Personal digital assistant, an electronic device which can include some of the functions of a computer, a cell phone, a music player, and a camera. This is from Wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pda »
From this you sir will put your foot in your mouth. iphone has everything listed above. If you said as above smartphones/pda is the same then this being said the iphone is a pda/smartphone.
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Kayslay34

Apr 6, 2009, 10:26 AM
You are so stupid, you still haven't shown where it can created and edit documents and connect to a business enterprise email system, the 2 main essentials of a pda/smartphone. By your standards a a lg lotus is a pda/smartphone. Step your game up.
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Menno

Apr 6, 2009, 12:49 PM
You're still going with the definition of a smartphone as something only for business. this definition was true before, it's not true anymore because more people than business execs want internet connectivity. This is a Media Smartphone, not a business smartphone.
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wizardofCroz

Apr 2, 2009, 2:01 PM
Shocked .....seriously? Ok then, define "smart phone or PDA"
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Kayslay34

Apr 2, 2009, 7:54 PM
Oh i dont know, maybe a phone that can connect to bussiness enterprise email system. Maybe do a spread sheet or two...
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dromant

Apr 3, 2009, 6:08 PM
I think people are getting too wrapped up in trying to "label" or "define" the iPhone. Does the iPhone do a lot of things that PDA's/Smartphones do? Yes. But technically, per ATT's guidelines it's not a PDA/Smartphone.

Who cares?

Technically, my brother in laws insurance classifies his 1992 Toyota Paseo as a sports car, even though it has 250,000 miles, a duct tape sunroof and passenger window, and only hits 60 mph on a downhill with a strong wind behidn it. Does that make it a sports car? People get so embroiled in labels - I think that's why ATT labled the data package on the iPhone as the "iPhone data package". Its not the PDA pacakge, it has its own package. The iPhone is different from everything else, it doesn't fit one "standa...
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Kayslay34

Apr 3, 2009, 8:02 PM
dromant said:
I think people are getting too wrapped up in trying to "label" or "define" the iPhone. Does the iPhone do a lot of things that PDA's/Smartphones do? Yes. But technically, per ATT's guidelines it's not a PDA/Smartphone.

Who cares?

Technically, my brother in laws insurance classifies his 1992 Toyota Paseo as a sports car, even though it has 250,000 miles, a duct tape sunroof and passenger window, and only hits 60 mph on a downhill with a strong wind behidn it. Does that make it a sports car? People get so embroiled in labels - I think that's why ATT labled the data package on the iPhone as the "iPhone data package". Its not the PDA pacakge, it has its own package. The iPhone is different from everythin
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Menno

Mar 28, 2009, 9:49 AM
Please tell me how a post with THREE responses is the "#1 thread" over there.

By that logic, the Pre would be "the number 1 thread" because it also has THREE responses.

Stop calling us fanboys when you can't get past your own raving.
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jrfdsf

Mar 28, 2009, 12:24 PM
Menno said:
Please tell me how a post with THREE responses is the "#1 thread" over there.

By that logic, the Pre would be "the number 1 thread" because it also has THREE responses.

Stop calling us fanboys when you can't get past your own raving.

I don't mind being called a fanboy. I love my service and my carrier.

If you, on the other hand are offended by that title, may I point out that I have never personally called you that. So, if you are taking offense, then it's your own guilty conscience at work.
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jrfdsf

Mar 28, 2009, 12:29 PM
What if Apple...?
by Azeron Today, 6:49 AM
I've been thinking about the rumor of Apple creating a CDMA Iphone. What if they are waiting for Verizon to open their network to other devices and are planning to sell the CDMA Iphone directly to consumers? The rumor I've heard is that Verizon turned down the Iphone because Apple wanted a cut of the monthly data revenue. If Apple sells directly to the consumer then they should be able to collect that monthly fee directly, no? Hmmmmm...
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Menno

Mar 28, 2009, 12:54 PM
the iphone is like Kleenex or "qtip" and all touch screen device is immediately compared to it, and of the dozens of phones that fit that feature set, those phones the iphone is the most popular and as a verizon salesperson you will have countless customers ask you "when verizon is getting the iphone" or "what phone do you have like the iphone" or "if I get an unlocked iphone, can you activate it for me?"

It's as annoying to us as our "nationwide coverage" ads are to you (from your record of posting on them) So yes, there will be a lot of discussion about the iphone, this doesn't make it "the #1 topic." that title goes to either 1)anything with alltel 2) the random "new phones coming out soon" thread (especially blackberries)
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mycool

Mar 30, 2009, 5:01 PM
Personally I could care less what network the iPhone is on. It isn't that great of a phone. The only thing I like about the iPhone is they are forcing their competitors to make what they already had in place better. And, to that, I can only think of 2 things:

Centralized application stores (accessable from the device) for smartphones. I know dumbphones had that availability, but smartphones had to go to 3rd party sources (ie Handango).

Enhanced Web Browsers. WinMo, BB, Palm and even dumb phones had web browsers in them, but they weren't perfected. Now, the smartphones are producing better web browsers every year and we have a middle tier of "smarter dumbphones"

If I missed something else that made them "groundbreaking", then add to ...
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LicorShot

Apr 2, 2009, 9:54 AM
Visual Voicemail seems to be a new thing these days i have seen a couple of phones that offer it besides the iphone ......
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Kenton2k

Apr 2, 2009, 10:48 AM
Also, threaded text messaging! Finally Verizon finally!
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Kayslay34

Apr 2, 2009, 1:12 PM
huh there were blackberrys that had threaded text before the iphone.
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Decept.ICON

Apr 6, 2009, 12:27 PM
of Winmo devices as well...
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mycool

Apr 3, 2009, 3:40 PM
Ah, I forgot about Visual VMail. Good catch. Old technology, newly used.
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