You do realize that you would be paying about the same price if you import a voda version or if you purchase outright from VZW right? I understand your thought/logic in the question as it does sound like it would work but on the BB devices by just doing a "flash" of a new OS doesn't mean you get rid of all the crap in it to begin with.

Granted I am not a BB guru, but have tried to debrand my Bold (from ATT) with no luck (if there is a way please let me know).

Sorry but I am just trying to figure out why you would want to go through so much trouble to pay the same as not having any trouble.

well i can get the storm for just about 375 here in the states but if i import from vodaphone then i am gonna have to spend like double that .....

plus i would like it to say verizon when i show them i am using it on att LOL .... kinda like a slap in the face cause they could NEVER do that to att right now .....

also i dont like to trust my money overseas with people i sorta know .... i trust myself better lol

just thought it would be a cool idea if it was doable

how u liking the bold by the way i hear its the better blackberry

it is ONLY for Verizon Wireless use in the US, it will NOT work here in the states under any other provider because it needs our net to perform.


So the answer is a big old no.

IamTheGodfather said:
it is ONLY for Verizon Wireless use in the US, it will NOT work here in the states under any other provider because it needs our net to perform.


So the answer is a big old no.

again a flash of the rom would eliminate most the VZW stuff ....

research man before u post ... you make your company look bad LoL

LMAO!

well, it's confirmed that us (former Cingular/ AT&T employees) are still more knowledgeable.

Get the BOLD. I really liked the phone. Only con is the call quality -earpiece. (Sony Ericsson has me spoiled in that dept)

IamTheGodfather said:
it is ONLY for Verizon Wireless use in the US, it will NOT work here in the states under any other provider because it needs our net to perform.


So the answer is a big old no.

The answer is actually a BIG yes.

http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1464655 ... »

LicorShot said:
well i can get the storm for just about 375 here in the states but if i import from vodaphone then i am gonna have to spend like double that .....

plus i would like it to say verizon when i show them i am using it on att LOL .... kinda like a slap in the face cause they could NEVER do that to att right now .....

also i dont like to trust my money overseas with people i sorta know .... i trust myself better lol

just thought it would be a cool idea if it was doable

how u liking the bold by the way i hear its the better blackberry

thats a slap in whos face? your using a bb that has a verizon logo, but you dont get the 3g coverage nor the voice call coverage, so who is getting s...
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IamTheGodfather said:

LicorShot said:
well i can get the storm for just about 375 here in the states but if i import from vodaphone then i am gonna have to spend like double that .....

plus i would like it to say verizon when i show them i am using it on att LOL .... kinda like a slap in the face cause they could NEVER do that to att right now .....

also i dont like to trust my money overseas with people i sorta know .... i trust myself better lol

just thought it would be a cool idea if it was doable

how u liking the bold by the way i hear its the better blackberry

thats a slap in whos face? your using a bb that has a verizon logo, but you dont get the 3g coverage nor th

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the storm can do tons of things the iphone cannot. the software is a little buggy at the moment but RIM will fix that soon enough. Reviews arent everything, as with the iphone, you have alot fo iphone/att fans who feel threatened reviewing the storm and giving it 0 stars.

theres no contest which is the hottest/best blackberry between the storm and bold. the bold is awesome, a beautiful phone. I want one. but its not revolutionary its basically a new curve with a bigger higher res screen. the storm is a whole new product line for RIM. the first of its kind

i agree with what u said above ... yeah RIM will fix the storm here soon enough

as for tons of things the storm does that the iphone can't ... there is only a few i am aware of BES and clicking screen messenger and what not ... it doesn't sync with mac but like i said both are 2 different devices but i believe that it can me reflashed to work as the vodaphone counter part ....

the question here is essentially is there any truth to that ....

anyone know the answer ?

I don't know man, in theory, sure, it seems to work fine. The only problem I foresee is if the new software can't recognize the antennae for GSM/UMTS, I can't imagine why it wouldn't but I'm really not sure. I know Verizon had a V3 with a SIM you could buy for roaming, try to find one of those unlocked for GSM use, I'd say if that's been done, this can be done. Otherwise, you could have a really pretty paperweight.

LicorShot said:
i agree with what u said above ... yeah RIM will fix the storm here soon enough

as for tons of things the storm does that the iphone can't ... there is only a few i am aware of BES and clicking screen messenger and what not ... it doesn't sync with mac but like i said both are 2 different devices but i believe that it can me reflashed to work as the vodaphone counter part ....

the question here is essentially is there any truth to that ....

anyone know the answer ?

a VZW BB Curve syncs with mAC, you think the Storm wont?

And reflashing is not going to work but go ahead and pretend like you know something.

lol ok so yes it will sync with a mac .... not as good as the iphone but it does sync ....


next thing is there is NO need to reflash the phone once its unlocked .... it will work PERFECTLY fine with att or tmobile ...only fallback is it is only gonna work on the EDGE network ..... bottom line is i can get my storm to work with ATT service but can u Mr.Verizon get the iphone to work on VZW ....

that is something that i know WILL NEVER HAPPEN
have a good day 🤣

LicorShot said:
lol ok so yes it will sync with a mac .... not as good as the iphone but it does sync ....


next thing is there is NO need to reflash the phone once its unlocked .... it will work PERFECTLY fine with att or tmobile ...only fallback is it is only gonna work on the EDGE network ..... bottom line is i can get my storm to work with ATT service but can u Mr.Verizon get the iphone to work on VZW ....

that is something that i know WILL NEVER HAPPEN
have a good day 🤣

ohhhhh I cant get the precious iphony to work on the best network...im so disappointed. I would have never wanted one of these POSes since I am a FORMER I pod touch owner and can say that the battery life is ridiculou...
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IamTheGodfather said:

LicorShot said:
lol ok so yes it will sync with a mac .... not as good as the iphone but it does sync ....


next thing is there is NO need to reflash the phone once its unlocked .... it will work PERFECTLY fine with att or tmobile ...only fallback is it is only gonna work on the EDGE network ..... bottom line is i can get my storm to work with ATT service but can u Mr.Verizon get the iphone to work on VZW ....

that is something that i know WILL NEVER HAPPEN
have a good day 🤣

ohhhhh I cant get the precious iphony to work on the best network...im so disappointed. I would have never wanted one of these POSes since I am a FORMER I pod touch owner and

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Godfather; read your post again...the Bold is NOT a touch screen device...period. I think it is you who "really knows nothing."

I understand what you mean about the trust issue; however, there are a ton of domestic retailers that are selling the Voda version of the 9500.

The Bold is great, it is my first BB (I was waiting for the 3G) and I love it. I have had WinMo and Symbian devices before (Nokia N95-3 was my last b4 the Bold) and I feel the BB OS is real nice. The BB is simple yet functional at the same time. I feel it is what a "smart phone" should be. Gets the job done and does it well.

thats a lot of work for such a garbage phone. 🤨

CDMA 850 / CDMA 1900
GSM 850 / GSM 900 / GSM 1800 / GSM 1900
WCDMA 2100

Specs Compare side-by-side vs...
Modes GSM 850 / GSM 900 / GSM 1800 / GSM 1900
WCDMA 850 / WCDMA 1900 / WCDMA 2100

these are the specs of the BOLD ... i don't see a difference ....

i played with the bold today put my sim card in it and it didn't recognize it of course but with a software upgrade i don't see it being a problem at all now ..... i am gonna attempt to unlock one from work here soon enough ..... i think it can be done ....

as for the reviews of the phone
i must say i am completely impressed with this touch screen they have for it ..... i clicked on that thing without really looking at it and didn't make one mistake at all ....

only draw back is i wish we had a wifi signal on it but otherwise .... ill keep u ...
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The bold is

WCDMA 850 / WCDMA 1900 / WCDMA 2100


The storm is

WCDMA 2100

The WCDMA would only work in Europe. AT&T runs WCDMA on the 1900 mghz frequency.

yup i just realized that .... so its gonna be on edge .... anyhow i got the way to do it ...

if anyone needs pointers i will post them just ask ...

AT&T runs it on both 850 MHz and 1900 MHz, depending on the area.

Except for the WCDMA. It would pick up the EDGE data just fine in the states though. It would be like a touch screen curve rather than a touch bold.

IamTheGodfather said:

IrishCarBomb said:
http://www.everythingberry.com/forum/blackberry-stor ... »

These guys are pretty good at what they do... as for the crackberry forum, nobody in that said they were using another carriers SIM, and it seemd a little dubious at best that they had actually SIM unlocked their Storm.

From what I have been able to find out and read, as well according to the crackberry official review of the Storm, it cannot be unlocked to work on another carriers US network, short of a full OS flashing from another country, but even that is questionable. This is why crackberry gave away vodafone versions of the Storm to people that were going to use i

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Pictures? Where are the pictures? I see a lot of talk here, but I don't see any proof.

Once again, a good friend of mine that is my BB rep says impossible, it is part of the Verizon OS that it must be used on CDMA in NA. Maybe flashing a foreign OS on it will let you, but until I see pictures of people using the Verizon branded version with Verizon OS still on it, I am saying BS.

http://forums.crackberry.com/f86/howto-get-all-featu ... »

Here is your answer you couldn't even find on crackberry despite linking to them... it was in the stickys of the Storm forum, and it totally contradicts what you said in terms of just SIM unlocking and forcing GSM...

Like I said, no way with the Verizon OS on it, because the Verizon OS locks it to CDMA in NA...

By doing the step-by-step in the link provided, you remove the Verizon branding in the OS, thus making it into the generic OS... Best of luck to anyone willing to try this! Be careful, you can brick you Storm if you fail to follow it closely, but odds are you won't since the walk through is idiot proof in that it does...
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LoL......

u guys re funny on here sometimes....

i haven't had much time to validate each and every thing u guys want because i do work alot but
I MYSELF ALREADY KNOW IT CAN AND HAS BEEN DONE...

with that said anyone willing to try it let me know and ill help u get it done otherwise

vzw fanboys stop trying to say NO it can't be done until u research all the facts ....

? Did you not read my post?

You CAN get a Verizon Storm to work on US GSM carriers! It reqiures more than SIM unlocking the phone though, because the Verizon OS also locks it to CDMA, even if you SIM unlock it...

The link I provided is a walk through of how to, using the desktop manager, remove the parts of the Verizon OS that make it the Verizon OS, thus removing the OS lock itself... in other words, it makes the Verizon OS into a generic OS without the Verizon bs added on.

This is the only way to get it to work, period, don't try and get these people to be a guinea pig for you and try something that could brick their phone. Don't offer to walk them through the steps when you obviously haven't done them yourself and don't know...
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lol

yeah i understand what u meant... that was more towards thedickfather from above that kept saying NO NO NO NO ......

i knew there was gonna be some homework involved but wasn't sure how much

but ill rebuttle it here in a bit cause from my understanding there was nothing else needed to change in the OS for the BB to work here in the states only major downfall is its an EDGE only phone .....

ill see what i can find once i get off of work here

Ok, ok, thats cool, I can see that being meant for him...

I figured it should just be a SIM unlock too, and it would be all good if you forced it to GSM, but that still runs into issues, especially if you want data and email services. I am also told by my BB rep friend that doing it that way shouldn't work, and if it does, they failed to program it correctly. The cooked OS lets you do everything a BB is known for, and he said that removing the Verizon branded files would make it unlocked for any US GSM carrier and wouldn't effect any of the services provided by BB.

Ha.. PWNED

BTW gotta love know it alls, took less than a half hour to go through the whole process and get the new service books from T-Mobile.

Tards.

LicorShot said:

IamTheGodfather said:

IrishCarBomb said:
http://www.everythingberry.com/forum/blackberry-stor ... »

These guys are pretty good at what they do... as for the crackberry forum, nobody in that said they were using another carriers SIM, and it seemd a little dubious at best that they had actually SIM unlocked their Storm.

From what I have been able to find out and read, as well according to the crackberry official review of the Storm, it cannot be unlocked to work on anothe

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LoL so u are saying IamTheGodfather got served ? 😲

it is an old lame exuse they use for saying " i have a pantech slate and i can blue tooth ringtones."


guess what?


so can i ....with an lg vx8350 for crying out loud. i can hack GIN if I wanted to as well, I just dont need to.

the storm is a monster. absolute monster.

IamTheGodfather said:
the storm is a monster. absolute monster.

Repeat, repeat, repeat several times a day, until you convince yourself!

where you working now Anx? I see you quit cingular in 06. we use to have some lively debates in early/mid 06 about who was better 🙂

How's my favorite Verizon fanboy?!

yeah, i stopped working in the industry in 06. still get on here to be in the loop. i'm still with the best (you know, lol) i'm considering getting a bold, but i think I'll wait until it goes down in price a bit. $400 is just too much for me right now.

IamTheGodfather said:


the storm is a monster. absolute monster.

You tell yourself anything you want! 🤣

oh here is a true update.


local gsm radios have been disabled in the device from here on in.


double pwned. and anyone who snuck in through the window will get a nasty surprise because this is easy to disable on anyone who has one unlocked right now. over the air wipe out. We already had a super computer whiz IT kid come in and absolutely flip out on us because we would not refund his money since he unlocked it and it didnt work anymore.

Read about 20 of these stories on crackberry as well. Classic.

I said I didn't think so, at least not just with a simple SIM unlock code because the lock on the phone is at the OS level, which this walk through, if you read it, explains how to remove.

The walk through is on how to make a cooked BB OS that removes the Verizon branding and then has you manually add in your own carriers branding.

For someone willing to use the term pwned, you might want to add some tech geekiness to your knowledge base, or actually read what people post.

well, mine is still working perfectly fine. thats all that matters to me.

I call BS! I tried your walk through, and could only make phone calls, nothing else. I even tried sending service books all 3 possible ways, tried to register the 'host routing table', etc. I even manually entered my companies data settings, and still couldn't get online with the phone. As well, a couple hours after doing the SIM unlock, it quit working all together.

So unless you provide a link to a video showing this step by step and actually working, I call BS to your methodology, and side with the reality I have experienced and the reality the best BB OS cookers say is the true way. I don't see any crackberry guys proving a simple SIM unlock got it working, I do see this walk through I posted, but nothing from them confirming you...
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sure thing. ill just go buy a camcorder, and record that for you. or for a nominal fee, ill gladly unlock one for you and send you instructions. 😁

Dude, I don't think you are following here, I know how to unlock a Storm, and it is more complicated than you and your supposed walk through says. The phone is locked using the OS itself, not just a simple SIM lock, thus in turn to unlock the phone you have to cook the OS... This is what BB says, Verizon says, the crackberry nation says, and so forth. The only people insisting on your techniques are those that decided to BS in the beginning and refuse to admit they were BSing so they keep on BSing.

If you have the money for a Storm, you have the money for a camcorder, show me the video and I will believe you, but until then I call BS.

For what it is worth, I was not the one who posted that walkthrough.