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Price of Rugby

imsosick1216

Sep 20, 2008, 4:17 PM
So, alot of customers come in and ask about the Rugby, and the price and a lot of them drop their jaws when we tell them the price. $179 with a $50 dollar MIR. Is that too much for a some what military grade phone?
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Hombre07

Sep 20, 2008, 4:41 PM
Considering prices of any other phone I think it's amazing, I mean Nextel phones are more than that, a V9 is more than that, any smartphone is more than that, they would cry if it were $50 after $50.
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Sigma1570

Sep 20, 2008, 5:25 PM
No, you see if the military was using it they would charge the taxpayer $2,000 a handset. Its all about perspective.
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texaswireless

Sep 21, 2008, 7:42 PM
That is not a high price at all. The previous military spec handsets on GSM were all $600 plus without activation (no carrier offered them but they were available online). Nextel's least expensive ones are about the same price and go up from there.
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cellphonesaretools

Sep 21, 2008, 11:13 PM
Wrong info on Nextel rugged handset prices. Nextel's lowest-priced rugged phone is $39.99, the most expensive rugged phone is $199.99, with a variety of units in between.

There are currently nine Nextel MIL-810f ruggedized handsets listed on their website, two of which also water resistant. The price breakdown is as follows (all with 2-yr contract):

$39.99 (1 model)
$79.99 (3 models)
$89.99 (1 model)
$99.99 (1 model)
$129.99 (1 model)
$199.99 (2 models)

So $179.99 for the ATT rugged phone is certainly in the ballpark, but the previous poster was WAY OFF the mark with the comment that Nextel's least expensive rugged handsets start at $179.99 and go up from there.
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texaswireless

Sep 22, 2008, 8:46 AM
If only two of them are water resistant then they are not all FULL military spec. The $129.99 model is the same price as the Samsung Rugby and the other is more expensive. The rest are not comparible because as soon as they get wet you are hosed.
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cellphonesaretools

Sep 22, 2008, 11:44 PM
"texaswirless posted: "If only two of them are water resistant then they are not all FULL military spec."

There are a large number (at least 19) of "subchapters" to the basic MIL-810F specification, including ones like Acid Atmosphere, Gunfire, Explosive Atmosphere, Fungus, etc. Does the Rugby meet all 19 subchapters of MIL-810F? No? Then it can't be called "full MIL spec" according to your last post.

The fact is, any manufacturer can self-certify to whatever sub-chapters of MIL-810F they choose to, and then they mention specifically which sections their product meets. Which is exactly what all of the cellphone manufacturers/carriers have done; they state very clearly which subchapters of 810F they meet for every ruggedized model in th...
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texaswireless

Sep 22, 2008, 11:55 PM
I appreciate your post but you too need to ensure you post "accurate" information to the topic at hand and learn to compare apples to apples. You seem to either be a Nextel honk (it's ok if you are) or you are a techno-geek (also ok). The point is you are missing the finer points of sales that cannot be garnered from looking at specs or reading brochures. By saying Sprint has x number of phones but only 2 (or 3) actually compare THAT is misleading data to Joe consumer who wishes to compare apples to apples. This is the first GSM phone that AT&T will carry that is water resistance along with a host of other important military spec items.

To come back with "but Nextel has phones starting at $39.99 that are military spec" and that the OP...
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texaswireless

Sep 23, 2008, 12:01 AM
texaswireless said:
That is not a high price at all. The previous military spec handsets on GSM were all $600 plus without activation (no carrier offered them but they were available online). Nextel's least expensive ones are about the same price and go up from there.


You also need to look at what was said. I did not post bad info at all. I said their comparible phones were about the same price (you said $99, pretty damn close) and went up from there. If you misread and though I was comparing Nextel to the $600 Gas Environment handsets used in the Oil Industry, etc. then you just need clarification.

cellphonesaretools said:
Please...accuracy, and credit where it is due, not just
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cellphonesaretools

Sep 23, 2008, 1:37 AM
The original poster ("OP") said: "So, alot of customers come in and ask about the Rugby, and the price and a lot of them drop their jaws when we tell them the price. $179..." and also the OP asked "Is that too much for a some what military grade phone? "

texaswireless responded: "Nextel's least expensive ones are about the same price and go up from there."

cellphonesaretools responded to texaswireless: "Nextel's lowest-priced rugged phone is $39.99, the most expensive rugged phone is $199.99, with a variety of units in between."

texaswireless replied: "If only two of them are water resistant then they are not all FULL military spec. The $129.99 model is the same price as the Samsung Rugby and the other is more expensive. The rest ar...
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texaswireless

Sep 23, 2008, 1:58 AM
You summed it up perfect. I gave him pertinent information as to comparible prices on comparible phones. You butted in completely oblivious to the facts because you wanted to get huffy about your precious Nextel honor. Obviously attitude and ego are coming into play with you and it wasn't all about "getting it right" otherwise you would drop it when you realized you were unaware of my reasons for comparison.

I guess that is why I understand sales and own stores and you do whatever it is you do when you aren't trolling forums with your Nextel-honk opinions.
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cellphonesaretools

Sep 23, 2008, 8:04 AM
The huff began with you, and has continued with you. The only reason I posted was to give a complete and accurate picture, of which your post was neither. You researched nothing, apparently just posting right out of your own head. Sorry, but that just doesn't cut it.

If a person can't take the heat of their opinionated or inaccurate posts being corrected with facts and supporting evidence, they should consider not posting at all. Or at least they should not get in a huff just because someone provides accurate information that counters their posted opinions.

And that is correct, I did sum it up perfectly, just not to your liking, and so your hubris and ranting continue...

Probable cause is "PTT envy".
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texaswireless

Sep 23, 2008, 11:55 PM
Feel better?

PTT envy?

Get a life man.
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taoareyou

Sep 26, 2008, 8:27 AM
I'm glad the Curve allows me to redefine the PTT button. I have it pull up my web browser instead. PTT is not only the least used feature I sell, but the vast majority of customers who come in don't even know what it does, much less have a practical need for it.

Building a business around this service is limited. Kinda like those litte niche stores in the mall, e.g. "Wanda's Candle Accessory Emporium". Laughing
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texaswireless

Sep 26, 2008, 10:59 AM
Nextel will see some subscriber losses because of this phone and water resistant product at Verizon. They simply are too limited on coverage and any reasonable alternative is going to look good. I already have 2 40 line deals waiting to try out the new phones. The execs all carry AT&T, they just want their rank and file to have a rugged handset.
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