mobile to mobile? m2m?
Can anyone explain to me how m2m minutes are used? I've heard some stories that if you make a phone call to another cingular customer, they deduct from your regular, peak time minutes first, just like a regular phone call. Once your peak time minutes run out, then m2m minutes kick in. I know verizon's IN calling has their own minutes allocated, so you'll never use your peak time minutes while calling another verizon customer. I'd draw you a flow chart, but I don't have the time. 😁
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No that is not correct at all. The flow starts with NW minutes so it filters first for off peak minutes.. Then during peak minutes it will filter M2M first and included plan minutes last.
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the complete flow is this:
first off peak:
N/W
M2M
Plan mins
Rollover
Next peak:
M2M
Plan Mins
Rollover
first off peak:
N/W
M2M
Plan mins
Rollover
Next peak:
M2M
Plan Mins
Rollover
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Ok, they - mobile to mobile(m2m) works like this. If you are the national plan and you call another cingular/attws customer, and as long as your phone says attws/cingular, then you are on the company's network, then you get unlimited mobile to mobile nationwide, the exceptions to the mobile to mobile to mobile are this :
1)Off network- If you phone is off network ,then like any other call you will use you regular minutes, peak minutes during peak, and nights and weekend call will use nights and weekend if the phone is off network.
2)You had your number blocked, if you have a feature of Line Number Blocking so that it comes up restricted, with that feature on, it doesn't register your number on the tower, so your mobile to mobile does n...
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1)Off network- If you phone is off network ,then like any other call you will use you regular minutes, peak minutes during peak, and nights and weekend call will use nights and weekend if the phone is off network.
2)You had your number blocked, if you have a feature of Line Number Blocking so that it comes up restricted, with that feature on, it doesn't register your number on the tower, so your mobile to mobile does n...
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Iago said:
thanks for the thorough breakdown. that answered my question. 🙂
No problem 😁
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Actually, unless you have unlimited Nights and Weekends, if you call a Cingular customer during N&W timeframes, it comes out of N&W first! So folks on the NTN450 burn the 5K N&W first, even on M2M calls.
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coldsteel said:
Actually, unless you have unlimited Nights and Weekends, if you call a Cingular customer during N&W timeframes, it comes out of N&W first! So folks on the NTN450 burn the 5K N&W first, even on M2M calls.
I know, but what i was reffering to how they work,and causes them not to be counted, you brought up a good point, i forgot that, thank you
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Man there are sooo many theories reguarding this..the guy in my store said they will NOT come from my 5k N/W minutes..now, not saying you or him is wrong..but someone is..sometimes its frustrating when you get several answers to the same question..again, not saying you are wrong, but just saying..
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Icyhot said:
Man there are sooo many theories reguarding this..the guy in my store said they will NOT come from my 5k N/W minutes..now, not saying you or him is wrong..but someone is..sometimes its frustrating when you get several answers to the same question..again, not saying you are wrong, but just saying..
When in doubt, go by customer they are given more updates and more training in the stores, not bad, but just maore training and more often then store reps, and think of it this way, if the care rep is wrong it benefits you, if the store reps is wrong his advice will cost you ovrages, better too much info then wrong info from store costing you money!
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coldsteel said:
Actually, unless you have unlimited Nights and Weekends, if you call a Cingular customer during N&W timeframes, it comes out of N&W first! So folks on the NTN450 burn the 5K N&W first, even on M2M calls.
Cold is right, it comes out of your n/w mins then your m2m so unless you have unlim n/w your killing your mins in that respect.
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BlueGuy said:
1)Off network- If you phone is off network ,then like any other call you will use you regular minutes, peak minutes during peak, and nights and weekend call will use nights and weekend if the phone is off network.
heres were you are incorrect. that is how att works but with cingular M2M your m2m works as long as you get signal. on/off network is not an issue. thats the point of the nation plans.
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That is the point I was trying to make... And I forgot that he worked for the blue side(don't know how I forgot that)... But in my case I was right... So thank you for someone else agreeing with me.
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Ok, they - mobile to mobile(m2m) works like this. If you are the national plan and you call another cingular/attws customer, and as long as your phone says attws/cingular, then you are on the company's network, then you get unlimited mobile to mobile nationwide, the exceptions to the mobile to mobile to mobile are this :
1)Off network- If you phone is off network ,then like any other call you will use you regular minutes, peak minutes during peak, and nights and weekend call will use nights and weekend if the phone is off network.
2)You had your number blocked, if you have a feature of Line Number Blocking so that it comes up restricted, with that feature on, it doesn't register your number on the towe
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Mobile to mobile is just that... Any calls made from Cingular to Cingular are free, no questions asked, as long as you have the feature on your acount
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jramossteel said:
Mobile to mobile is just that... Any calls made from Cingular to Cingular are free, no questions asked, as long as you have the feature on your acount
not unless they have the proper plan, feature and use it based on their plan, thats why promotions say for example on a local plan,un limited local mobile to mobile, and national plans have national unlimited mobile to mobile, also if you are OFF NETWORK ,the mobile to mobile isn't used, since like VZW, you have to be in network or on network, however you want to call it, and the you have to NOT have Line Number Blocking otherwise it does not work for you either!!!!!
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BlueGuy said:jramossteel said:
Mobile to mobile is just that... Any calls made from Cingular to Cingular are free, no questions asked, as long as you have the feature on your acount
not unless they have the proper plan, feature and use it based on their plan, thats why promotions say for example on a local plan,un limited local mobile to mobile, and national plans have national unlimited mobile to mobile, also if you are OFF NETWORK ,the mobile to mobile isn't used, since like VZW, you have to be in network or on network, however you want to call it, and the you have to NOT have Line Number Blocking otherwise it does not work for you either!!!!!
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jramossteel said:...BlueGuy said:jramossteel said:
Mobile to mobile is just that... Any calls made from Cingular to Cingular are free, no questions asked, as long as you have the feature on your acount
not unless they have the proper plan, feature and use it based on their plan, thats why promotions say for example on a local plan,un limited local mobile to mobile, and national plans have national unlimited mobile to mobile, also if you are OFF NETWORK ,the mobile to mobile isn't used, since like VZW, you have to be in network or on network, however you want to call it, and the you have to NOT have Line Number Blocking otherwise it does not work for you either!!!!!
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But my point is that unless purchased as a bolt on there is no off network. The only plans that include the mobile to mobile are nationwide.
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jramossteel said:
But my point is that unless purchased as a bolt on there is no off network. The only plans that include the mobile to mobile are nationwide.
But even with the national plan, you still have to be on network, just on the national plan there is no roaming when on another network, but if you pick a t-mobile tower on the national plan, you don't get roam fees, but the mobile to mobile aren't registered either
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No its one map on the orange side... That is the point... The plans have one map rather than the three that VzW did... You're a manager right?
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BlueGuy said:jramossteel said:
But my point is that unless purchased as a bolt on there is no off network. The only plans that include the mobile to mobile are nationwide.
But even with the national plan, you still have to be on network, just on the national plan there is no roaming when on another network, but if you pick a t-mobile tower on the national plan, you don't get roam fees, but the mobile to mobile aren't registered either
NO!
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS ON OR OFF-NETWORK ON THE CINGULAR NATION PLAN!
if you are on the Cingular Nation plan with M2M included, and you are in the middle of nowhere and pick up some other company's tower, as long as your Call...
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jinx7676 said:...BlueGuy said:jramossteel said:
But my point is that unless purchased as a bolt on there is no off network. The only plans that include the mobile to mobile are nationwide.
But even with the national plan, you still have to be on network, just on the national plan there is no roaming when on another network, but if you pick a t-mobile tower on the national plan, you don't get roam fees, but the mobile to mobile aren't registered either
NO!
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS ON OR OFF-NETWORK ON THE CINGULAR NATION PLAN!
if you are on the Cingular Nation plan with M2M included, and you are in the middle of nowhere and pick up some other co
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jinx7676 said:...BlueGuy said:jramossteel said:
But my point is that unless purchased as a bolt on there is no off network. The only plans that include the mobile to mobile are nationwide.
But even with the national plan, you still have to be on network, just on the national plan there is no roaming when on another network, but if you pick a t-mobile tower on the national plan, you don't get roam fees, but the mobile to mobile aren't registered either
NO!
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS ON OR OFF-NETWORK ON THE CINGULAR NATION PLAN!
if you are on the Cingular Nation plan with M2M included, and you are in the middle of nowhere and pick up some other co
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BlueGuy said:
...also if you are OFF NETWORK ,the mobile to mobile isn't used, since like VZW, you have to be in network or on network, however you want to call it.
BlueGuy said:
Because you give partial answers,and the way you give them leads customers to belive it, that off network doesn't matter, being outside of the local area does not matter, and line number doesn't matter, and everything i said is full complete, and the reason i know it off by heart,is that customers recite your answers ,and why why the bill worng, the store says " ", which has to be corrected.
How ironic this is: you are giving someguy a hard time because you think he gave wrong information,...
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BlueGuy said:...jramossteel said:BlueGuy said:jramossteel said:
Mobile to mobile is just that... Any calls made from Cingular to Cingular are free, no questions asked, as long as you have the feature on your acount
not unless they have the proper plan, feature and use it based on their plan, thats why promotions say for example on a local plan,un limited local mobile to mobile, and national plans have national unlimited mobile to mobile, also if you are OFF NETWORK ,the mobile to mobile isn't used, since like VZW, you have to be in network or on network, however you want to call it, and the you have to NOT have Line Number Blocking otherwise it d
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Dude, where's my car?
Listen it matters on the blue side for blue customers, i said if you read other posts,other being selective that i was reffering to "BLUE" customers, who tend to read on this forum, and was posting to blue customers.On the blue side,on and off network matters to them as it relates to their mobile to mobile benefits, DUDE!!!
Listen it matters on the blue side for blue customers, i said if you read other posts,other being selective that i was reffering to "BLUE" customers, who tend to read on this forum, and was posting to blue customers.On the blue side,on and off network matters to them as it relates to their mobile to mobile benefits, DUDE!!!
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BlueGuy said:
Dude, where's my car?
Listen it matters on the blue side for blue customers, i said if you read other posts,other being selective that i was reffering to "BLUE" customers, who tend to read on this forum, and was posting to blue customers.On the blue side,on and off network matters to them as it relates to their mobile to mobile benefits, DUDE!!!
All of this would have been clear had you announced from the begining that you were speaking of a legacy blue policy! AT&TWS is no more so when you make statements like M2M and on network, a reader will assume that you are incorrectly referencing a current policy. Be clear in what you say and there would not be a need to catch an attitude.
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BlueGuy said:
Dude, where's my car?
Listen it matters on the blue side for blue customers, i said if you read other posts,other being selective that i was reffering to "BLUE" customers, who tend to read on this forum, and was posting to blue customers.On the blue side,on and off network matters to them as it relates to their mobile to mobile benefits, DUDE!!!
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Just to end the dispute... You are both right... Blue has on and off network and orange only has onnetwork
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I have the Nation plan @ $39 for 1000 mins, which does not include any M2M. My son has a regional family plan that DOES have M2M.
Just guessing that I can phone him from anywhere in the nation, I'll be charged minutes, but he won't be charged. Is that right?
Just guessing that I can phone him from anywhere in the nation, I'll be charged minutes, but he won't be charged. Is that right?
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chamelea said:
I have the Nation plan @ $39 for 1000 mins, which does not include any M2M. My son has a regional family plan that DOES have M2M.
Just guessing that I can phone him from anywhere in the nation, I'll be charged minutes, but he won't be charged. Is that right?
Exactly so.
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coldsteel said:chamelea said:
I have the Nation plan @ $39 for 1000 mins, which does not include any M2M. My son has a regional family plan that DOES have M2M.
Just guessing that I can phone him from anywhere in the nation, I'll be charged minutes, but he won't be charged. Is that right?
Exactly so.
just FYI, you can add M2M to that plan for 9.99 if you wanted to...
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Correct... If you are on the 1000 minute plan, it will just come off of your minutes, and his will just be charged the mobile to mobile.
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