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Something that REALLY irks me. A lot. A whole lot.

Fandim

Sep 1, 2008, 3:08 PM
Why do in-store reps always tell customers to just call in to BEUC to get their activation fee's/upgrade fee's etc waived..?? Unless it's listed in ECPV, we're not supposed to do that..but it seems to happen a LOT. I mean, I know you guys work on commission, but it's a little bit rediculous, when a customer calls in upset about their bill, because a store rep told them they'd waive it (or tells them to call in and have it waived)..

On top of that.. they start asking questions like..

Why do I have insurance on my phone?
What's roadside assistance? I didnt ask for that!
Media net unlimited?! I didnt want media net on my phone.
The rep never told me I'd need a $30 PDA plan for this!

I get those SO often... And it's amazing - whe...
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ccareatatt

Sep 1, 2008, 3:21 PM
Reps are never supposed to have the customer call in to have the fee waived we have to side on the side of the customer tho in consumer care. Also the reason why a media net unlimited or pda plan may be added is to get the actual rebate on the phone. Most of the time they are advised of that and dont pay attention they are too busy focused on "i just want to get out of here and play with my new phone."

Send in an agent feedback form if you are getting a lot of calls. I havent had a call like that in months. They mostly call in about prorated charges... especially with advanced billing.

Perhaps some indirect and cor reps out there could explain why they have them call into ccare for a credit when COR reps can make credits on account...
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Fandim

Sep 1, 2008, 3:28 PM
Yeah, I understand the PDA part.. But the roadside assistance/phone insurance/telenav and even sometimes messaging plans the customer never requested are the ones that really steam me..because they're almost always just piled onto the account.
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lazykracker03

Sep 1, 2008, 3:36 PM
i know that roadside and telenav are free for the first 30 days so a lot of shady people will add it for the extra feature money hoping the customer won't catch it me personally i don't i work for an indirect and whenever it says waived activation due to a fan i just email my rep and she takes it off saves everyone time and a headache
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mark477

Sep 1, 2008, 9:01 PM
yea i get ALOT of those calls to.

but what really really really urks me is that a store rep promises something to them and they dont notate, actually they never notate ANYTHING!!! is there a valid reason for this or is it just plain laziness?
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Fandim

Sep 1, 2008, 10:15 PM
The 'valid reason' for them not notating, is because they're not allowed to promise the things to customers that they promise.
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mark477

Sep 2, 2008, 8:22 AM
that really doesnt make any sense. isnt it breaking one of the cust rules "meeting our commitments". but anyway that is really screwy. and just doesnt make sense. its giving the customers the idea that anything the rep says or anything that the customer says is true and we would have to honor it just because. "the store rep said it was waived"

and its really hard to convince them.. they really need to change that policy
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CAtherton

Sep 5, 2008, 8:57 PM
I agree 😈
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taoareyou

Sep 2, 2008, 10:00 AM
mark477 said:
yea i get ALOT of those calls to.

but what really really really urks me is that a store rep promises something to them and they dont notate, actually they never notate ANYTHING!!! is there a valid reason for this or is it just plain laziness?


As far as I am aware, I have no options to notate an account. I do everything through POS.com over the Internet as an indirect salesperson.
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mark477

Sep 2, 2008, 11:19 AM
i dont think we really have issues with 3rd party. just because if a 3rd party said they would do it we direct them to pos. but it the cor stores that do it all the time
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Pious Goddess

Sep 2, 2008, 11:24 AM
I have problems with reps period. And I've seen direct and indirect agents note accounts and credit accounts before.
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khrispii

Sep 2, 2008, 4:36 PM
i know there is a way for pos to notate in an account. i get problems where auth retailers leave notes in the acct posing as other depts to give high dollar credits for no reason or giving phones away. i've even seen some write the note as it was a clarify interaction trying to make it legit. but the thing is when it's noted, the system automatically notes where it came from to the right of the note (clarify, OPUS, or POS11). that's how we know if it's valid or not. so i know they can do it, i just dont know how they do it.
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taoareyou

Sep 2, 2008, 5:34 PM
In Pos.com for me, I can do the following:

Rate Plan: Analyze Rate Plan, Change Rate Plan, Create/Change Family Talk Plan, Update Family Talk Plan Members, Change Account Type, Rollover Matrix

Equipment: Change ESN/IMEI, Upgrade, Renew Service, View or Reverse Upgrade

Features: Change Features, Change Wireless Number

AT&T Services: New Wireline Products, Product Order Status, CPNI Statement

Billing: B2B Information, View Call/Data Details, Change Billing Language, View/Renew WSA, View/Print Bill Images, Tax Exempt Request, View Gift Card Balance

I can also create a passcode and edit contact information.

I have honestly searched every link available to me and nowhere do I have an option to read notes on an account or add ...
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ralph_on_me

Sep 2, 2008, 6:05 PM
Pos 1, as opposed to Pos 2, correct?
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taoareyou

Sep 2, 2008, 6:11 PM
ralph_on_me said:
Pos 1, as opposed to Pos 2, correct?


Correct.
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skibum

Sep 2, 2008, 6:14 PM
I use POS2, I can read and add notes.
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ccareatatt

Sep 2, 2008, 9:31 PM
You actually do have the ability to credit back. Your AT&T contact can be contacted to issue credits.
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Fandim

Sep 1, 2008, 3:34 PM
oh and BTW... I wont use agent feedback forms.. Not trying to get anyone in trouble or fired.. No matter how much it pisses me off, I'm not going to take food out of their childrens mouths because of it, heh.
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att_tx

Sep 4, 2008, 12:04 AM
COR reps do have the ability to make credits and apply adjustments up to $100 however if our store manager does not provision the ability for us to do that in OPUS, we cannot...but if we as reps create the problem or situation we should resolve it as well.
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colione112

Sep 2, 2008, 5:32 AM
I agree some reps are shady, but on the flip side there are several things that happen in stores.

1. Customers don't pay attention when we go over the CSS. 🙄

2. There are rate plan grids that bundle features in (messaging, media net and yes even roadside and insurance) which we explain to them. 😲

3. Phones require certain features (pda, bb or msg unl) in order to get the best price. The customers pretty much tell us they are going to call and have it removed. We can't deny selling them the phone, so we activate it and send them on their way. There is no "penalty" if they remove the feature and alot of them know that. 🙄

4. I have all activation/upgrade fees credited by the manager if the ECPV says they get i...
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AvgJoe

Sep 2, 2008, 12:06 PM
This thread is why I buy my phones separate from the Carrier and have not and will not sign a contract. I don't want to deal with reps that will add crap I will later have to deal with another rep to rid myself of.

The only reason I like ATT is becasue I don't HAVE to call CS for anything if I don't do "subsidy upgrades" with anyone.
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crackberry

Sep 2, 2008, 12:15 PM
what irks me is when i call in and a beuc rep will not speak to me even though i told them i was calling from cor... i think most beuc reps are midly retarded.
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Pious Goddess

Sep 2, 2008, 1:15 PM
I admit some are. Cor reps that are vid can call in and be assisted with out the cus to my understanding last time I read CSP. Indirects are the one's that can not be helped with out the cus.

And I know some don't help much because for instance a rep calls in to me because he did not want his manager to know how he screwed up some account and wanted me to issue out all these credits for this crap he did.
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crackberry

Sep 2, 2008, 10:23 PM
Pious Goddess said:
Indirects are the one's that can not be helped with out the cus.

at&t/cingular really effed things up with that policy... it hurts more than it helps.
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UOQuack

Sep 3, 2008, 10:33 AM
One thing I would say is that if you have the ability to report agents or cor reps who are doing these things you definitely should. I know you dont want to take food out of anyone's mouth, and that's admirable, but as an AT&T employee, it's sort of your job to help weed out the bad employees. As an agent, whenever I get treated rudely by a customer service rep, or run across one who doesnt know what they are doing, I report the name and CUID to my RAE. Conversely, if they treat me exceptionally well or do a superb job of solving a problem, I will also report that to my RAE. My point is that the reps who are shady give the entire industry a bad name, and yes agents seem to bear the brunt of that bad name, in many cases deservedly so. Bu...
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ccareatatt

Sep 3, 2008, 10:39 AM
Has anyone been running into a lot of Apple store mistakes? Yesterday an apple store told a customer that the texting unlimited was a north american package....which is NOT true its a nation package...needless to say they have been texting canada alot...(more than the 100 text package we currently have) Its hard to pinpoint which apple store because for some reason its all the same store code in the accounts. Anyone else running into dumb mistakes like that?
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Pious Goddess

Sep 3, 2008, 1:10 PM
They have access to my CSP, and they can always call us before telling lies.
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ATTGuyNY

Sep 3, 2008, 11:47 AM
I used to work for an inidirect store in upstate ny (Premier Technologies) and a few months later left due to the constant back and forth from management. Then I opened a Sprint Store (I am feeling the pain from that idea).

But anyway, back to the story. Feature flipping and slamming was actually the way that Premier Technology trained employees. The first two things that I taught in regards to features was, sometimes people come in with old codes (Old nights at 7pm code for example) and when we see this we should flip it because the company and us gets paid. The second thing was that we were to slam accounts with as many free trials as we could just as long as we mentioned that we added a free trial to the customer, at the time this was ...
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crob31

Sep 4, 2008, 1:29 AM
I have a similar story with Comm Club in the Los Angeles area. We had reps trained to flip everything. A rep then flipped an old Media Works package (MEWK) for 19.99 to the new one at the time (MBR2) for 14.99. Needless to say they did not know that the old one had unlimited media net and the new one capped at 5 GB. The customer came in with a $3,000 bill a month later to me to ask what happened. I was told by management to refer him to CS to credit the overages and deny it was done by our rep even though it was rang up in our system the exact day it was changed on the account.

I can say that from what I've witnessed, it had not only been dealers but also COR that was doing shady things like this.

I stopped working in wireless for a...
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emokiller

Sep 6, 2008, 3:18 PM
I add notes on a regular basis, when you go into the customers account on POS I you can view the account notes and it also give you the option to add notes as well.
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