SOOOOOOO Typical
In a different post some one asked which carrier is better. Some one said the following:
cingular is much better. we have rollover, better phones, and better mobile to mobile coverage.
Note the fact that the first thing you say is "WE HAVE ROLLOVER"....
Not everyone needs this. Everytime someone tells me to migrate from my ATT plan, they try to use ROLLOVER as their selling point. Then I explain to the that I have over 1000 mins every month & only use about 2/3 of them, so rollover is useless to me.
Another thing I have noticed is the bosting of "49.1 million & counting!". What is up with that .1? Its like "We became the best by purchasing AT&T Wireless... But that .1 makes us EVEN BETTER! M2M ROCKS!"
Also... who really car...
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cingular is much better. we have rollover, better phones, and better mobile to mobile coverage.
Note the fact that the first thing you say is "WE HAVE ROLLOVER"....
Not everyone needs this. Everytime someone tells me to migrate from my ATT plan, they try to use ROLLOVER as their selling point. Then I explain to the that I have over 1000 mins every month & only use about 2/3 of them, so rollover is useless to me.
Another thing I have noticed is the bosting of "49.1 million & counting!". What is up with that .1? Its like "We became the best by purchasing AT&T Wireless... But that .1 makes us EVEN BETTER! M2M ROCKS!"
Also... who really car...
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Coverage and service between Verizon and Cingular is so close its ususally not a problem for people. Things like M2M, Rollover, and the phones are what swings a person's decision between the two companies. Most people want a good price and you and I both know that people don't just want phones to make phone calls anymore.
Anyway, people who boast coverage and service get shot down by the "opposers" of each company anyway...
Anyway, people who boast coverage and service get shot down by the "opposers" of each company anyway...
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rollover is the one thing cingular offers that no other service provider offers. Also(not in all cases) this will sway many customers that are tired of paying overage charges. thus this becomes their main selling point. thats kinda how advertising works.
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But, as far as roll-over is concerned... if people are consistantly going over their minutes, roll-over won't help because they don't have any minutes to roll-over! It forces them to switch to a higher price plan (more money for Cingular) but then, because they have more minutes, they (in theory) will have extra minutes to roll-over, but won't ever need them because they're on a higher price plan.
Granted, there are some people who are on a plan where they consistanly use within a few minutes of their allotted minutes which makes roll-over nice for those months where usage is a little over.
Now, I don't say this to ruffle any feathers. Honestly. I just don't get the idea of roll-over minutes. Do most people's monthly usage swing so...
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Granted, there are some people who are on a plan where they consistanly use within a few minutes of their allotted minutes which makes roll-over nice for those months where usage is a little over.
Now, I don't say this to ruffle any feathers. Honestly. I just don't get the idea of roll-over minutes. Do most people's monthly usage swing so...
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Its what got me to switch from t-mobile. I had a comparable rate plan with comparable price but every now and then I would go over my 850 minutes(not all the time but every few months). For going over sometimes my bill would be 40-75 dollars over what it normally was. I just could not afford for this to happen again. Plus I know a lot more people with cingular and AT&T service(more M2M calling). With T-mobile I would use an average of 600 anyimte mins a month. Now with cingy and wider M2M. I used 375 anytime last month and 300 this month. I already have over 800 mins rolled over. I can talk for hours and not even think twice about an overage charge.
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You may not agree, but I am sure the majority would..talking on a phone is not the primary reason people buy a phone anymore..cameras, mp3 players, data services and speeds and other things play as much or more into the scheme when buying a phone..
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Very very true icyhot. sad thing is most customers get disappointed when they find out that all the extra features they have in their phones dont work anywhere near as good as the standalone devices. esp. camera. Then they want to go to the stores or call the reps and get upset.
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Icyhot said:
You may not agree, but I am sure the majority would..talking on a phone is not the primary reason people buy a phone anymore..cameras, mp3 players, data services and speeds and other things play as much or more into the scheme when buying a phone..
Talking on the phone NOT THE PRIMARY REASON? What is the primary reason? Maybe your wording is off. I think you're trying to say that talking on a phone is not the ONLY reason people buy a phone anymore.
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No my wording is NOT off..some people won't buy a phone if it doesn't have a camera, so therefore, talking isn't the PRIMARY reason for many people today..
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these message boards are out of touch with what people actually want. what people on these boards want and what the general public wants are two completely separate things.
i would go out on a limb and say that MOST people don't really even want a camera, mp3, etc on their phone, they just want a phone that works and doesn't look stupid.
i would go out on a limb and say that MOST people don't really even want a camera, mp3, etc on their phone, they just want a phone that works and doesn't look stupid.
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As a general public person I have a T637. I dont like clamshells (extra steps). I could care less about the camera.Used it once. They all are terrible. Video is a joke on a phone.
BT is nice for sync and file transfer of GOOOD pictures taken with a decent camera.
MP3 player? No thanks My HP 120 is plenty good for that.
Bottom line is its PHONE and PHONE features are important. Like Ringtones, addressbook implimentation, Speaker volume, Reception,
All these other things take battery life from the phone being used as a ..well phone and are a waste in my opinion.
Changable faceplates? Maybe the for the teens.
BT is nice for sync and file transfer of GOOOD pictures taken with a decent camera.
MP3 player? No thanks My HP 120 is plenty good for that.
Bottom line is its PHONE and PHONE features are important. Like Ringtones, addressbook implimentation, Speaker volume, Reception,
All these other things take battery life from the phone being used as a ..well phone and are a waste in my opinion.
Changable faceplates? Maybe the for the teens.
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REALLY?!?!?!?!? Your comments are idiotic IcyHot.
Lets look at it this way (saying that talking isn't primary)...
If a consumer wants something with an MP3 player, why would he buy a cell phone. He could just buy an IPOD
If a consumer wanted a camera, why would he buy a phone. YOU CAN BUY A DIGITAL CAMERA FOR AROUND $100
If a consumer wants a PDA, why buy a cell phone when you can buy a Palm Pilot.
As you can see, it would be pointless to buy a cell phone if the primary reason for buying it was NOT to talk on it. Cameras, MP3 players & PDA's are just added perks to the cell phone, which has VOICE SERVICES as its primary function. Once again, your comments are idiotic, just like you.
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Lets look at it this way (saying that talking isn't primary)...
If a consumer wants something with an MP3 player, why would he buy a cell phone. He could just buy an IPOD
If a consumer wanted a camera, why would he buy a phone. YOU CAN BUY A DIGITAL CAMERA FOR AROUND $100
If a consumer wants a PDA, why buy a cell phone when you can buy a Palm Pilot.
As you can see, it would be pointless to buy a cell phone if the primary reason for buying it was NOT to talk on it. Cameras, MP3 players & PDA's are just added perks to the cell phone, which has VOICE SERVICES as its primary function. Once again, your comments are idiotic, just like you.
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My point exactly... you see, Icy, the definition of the word primary is as follows:
Primary - First or highest in rank, quality, or importance; principal
So if you're saying that consumers are buying cellphones, but their PRIMARY reason is anything other than talking on the phone - then you are either a) a complete moron b) out of touch with reality or c) both or d) you meant to use different wording. I gave you the benft of the doubt in my first post on this thread assuming it was option 'd' but you quickly shot that down, and I think you appear a bit foolish.
Sorry for the brutal honesty.
~Steve
Primary - First or highest in rank, quality, or importance; principal
So if you're saying that consumers are buying cellphones, but their PRIMARY reason is anything other than talking on the phone - then you are either a) a complete moron b) out of touch with reality or c) both or d) you meant to use different wording. I gave you the benft of the doubt in my first post on this thread assuming it was option 'd' but you quickly shot that down, and I think you appear a bit foolish.
Sorry for the brutal honesty.
~Steve
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Listen up steve and luckystar..you can call me names, criticize me, bash me, whatever you want to do..it does not bother me, so if it makes you feel any better, by all means...please continue...have a nice day 🙂
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Actually I didn't call you any names... just used logic to rebut your post. And thanks, I'll have a lovely day.
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You mean you don't know?? Damn, I have lost faith in you now..maybe luckystar knows..I am sure between the two of you, y'all know everything 🙂
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Icyhot said:
You mean you don't know?? Damn, I have lost faith in you now..maybe luckystar knows..I am sure between the two of you, y'all know everything 🙂
Wow... you're so cool 🙄 I wish I could be just like you.
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I understand WHY you would ask this question... but i dont understand your resoning. Yeah, Rollover has its perks if you are a certain kind of customer. If it isnt right for you, just ignore it.
M2M- It DOES rock. I like being able to call more people for free.
.1- They have every right to boast! SOOOOOOO many people said things like "Yeah, they can BUY OLD customers, but can they OBTAIN NEW customers?" The Answer is YES.
Cool Phones- I dont want the same phone everyone has. I want to personalize my phone & make it my OWN style.
You are right that M2M, Cool Phones & Rollover are the first things people point out, but the reason they do it... IT MATTERS. Coverage & service either ROCK or BLOW, regardless of who your carrie...
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M2M- It DOES rock. I like being able to call more people for free.
.1- They have every right to boast! SOOOOOOO many people said things like "Yeah, they can BUY OLD customers, but can they OBTAIN NEW customers?" The Answer is YES.
Cool Phones- I dont want the same phone everyone has. I want to personalize my phone & make it my OWN style.
You are right that M2M, Cool Phones & Rollover are the first things people point out, but the reason they do it... IT MATTERS. Coverage & service either ROCK or BLOW, regardless of who your carrie...
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rollover is really just a big marketing scam, but even accepting it for what it is, I still say why not have it?
Boasting about coverage and service is a thing of the past. Why you say? Well just about everyones coverage, believe or not, is about identical.
Boasting about customer base? I agree with you that yeah no one cares how many customers you have, but on the other hand m2m does in fact rock. If you could talk for 5000 mins a month and pay only 39.99 monthly that would be huge to you wouldn't it? I mean most places your getting into the 2-300 range for that many anytime minutes.
Lastly if your just trying to justify your hate for cingular fine. DONT SIGN UP WITH THEM! When I used to sell phones and people would come into my s...
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Boasting about coverage and service is a thing of the past. Why you say? Well just about everyones coverage, believe or not, is about identical.
Boasting about customer base? I agree with you that yeah no one cares how many customers you have, but on the other hand m2m does in fact rock. If you could talk for 5000 mins a month and pay only 39.99 monthly that would be huge to you wouldn't it? I mean most places your getting into the 2-300 range for that many anytime minutes.
Lastly if your just trying to justify your hate for cingular fine. DONT SIGN UP WITH THEM! When I used to sell phones and people would come into my s...
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luckystar1982 said:
Also... who really cares how cool a phone is... its a PHONE, which makes PHONE calls & serves as a communication device. People in the 60's did not have battles over "I HAVE THE COOLEST LANDLINE PHONE! ITS HARVEST GOLD!"
boast their coverage & service?
ROFLMFAO!! That's awesome 🤣
My mom still has her old avocado green washing machine too-gotta love the 60's!
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Why would you ask a question that you don't want a answer to.
If you have 1000 min for 39.99, good luck. I have seen reps more than once take off all those additional mins because you are not suppose to stack promo mins.
If you have 1000 min for 39.99, good luck. I have seen reps more than once take off all those additional mins because you are not suppose to stack promo mins.
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I did not see him quote how much he paid for 1000 mins, did you? NO. I know who luckystar is we have the SAME plan. The cost is $59.99 for 1050 mins. Dont assume... it makes you look stupid. 😛
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matty_719 said:
I did not see him quote how much he paid for 1000 mins, did you? NO. I know who luckystar is we have the SAME plan. The cost is $59.99 for 1050 mins. Dont assume... it makes you look stupid. 😛
Another thing that is typical. Matty is right, I never said how much i paid. That dumb ass just ASSUMED!
Cingular should change its name to Cingliar
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I'll boast cingular coverage, & you should to. If your with AT&T you are useing it. Let me ask you this about rollover. If you are only useing 2/3 of your 1000, wouldn't it be nice to have the rest add up for when you were on vacation or away from a local landline for a week or so? Also M2M comes it to play in several ways. Most customer were paying 69.99 and higher for rate plans to cover there everyday needs for minutes. With M2M however they could drop the plan to as low as 39.99 because of the M2M time that they are useing & the M2M minutes can be used ANYWHERE in the US Just think about it. Every one call everyone on their mobile phones. Most people do not use landlines any longer. After thats said Ill say just look at it closely Cingua...
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In a different post some one asked which carrier is better. Some one said the following:
cingular is much better. we have rollover, better phones, and better mobile to mobile coverage.
Note the fact that the first thing you say is "WE HAVE ROLLOVER"....
Not everyone needs this. Everytime someone tells me to migrate from my ATT plan, they try to use ROLLOVER as their selling point. Then I explain to the that I have over 1000 mins every month & only use about 2/3 of them, so rollover is useless to me.
Another thing I have noticed is the bosting of "49.1 million & counting!". What is up with that .1? Its like "We became the best by purchasing AT&T Wireless... But that .1 makes us EVEN BETTER!
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PhoenixAshes said:
From what you are saying, you sound like a Verizon employee.
Acutally, I am a regular customer who lives in Colorado. Another thing that it so typical. Employees of CINGUALR see someone express a question or opinion & they assume its another carrier trying to make them look bad. You automatically ASSUMED I was a Verizon employee, which i am not (this makes you look like an ass!)
Regular people are cell phone junkies, just like you. And FYI... I dont need rollover. In the 7 years that I have had a phone, I have NEVER gone over my minutes. The only reason I use only 2.3 of my monthly minutes is because of my family plan with nights @ 7pm. If i downgrade, it could cost me more & my night...
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LOL i am on a 39.99 family plan for also the same reason as you with ATTWS GSM have 1250 AT National minutes. I use between 500-600 minutes between my phone and the wifes. I get 7pm N&W and unlimited M2M to both Cingular and ATTWS customers from about middle of nov. ATTWS had add a line for 9.99 on all plans back last year in june or so and they let me combine my wifes and my own "minutes for lifes" promo's into the family. Just incase you do not know what the "minutes for life" promo was every time you re-newed your contract you get 150 bonus minutes that would stack on top of any promo as a way of saying thanking for staying with us. So between my wife and I out "minutes for life" so my bill shows up as plan minutes 400 + promo 400 + "Minu...
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dolmar said:
unless your on crack migrating from attws is a downgrade only true advantage is getting a phone at a discounted price.
EXACTLY! Rollover is POINTLESS for MANY subscribers! People end up buying WAY more than they need, just to save money. I want to be on a $49.99 plan, which would be more accommodating to my usage, but it would end up costing me $19.99 for each additional line, instead of $9.99. In the end, instead of trying to save $10, it ends up costing me $20 more monthly. SCREW THAT! 😈
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luckystar1982 said:...PhoenixAshes said:
From what you are saying, you sound like a Verizon employee.
Acutally, I am a regular customer who lives in Colorado. Another thing that it so typical. Employees of CINGUALR see someone express a question or opinion & they assume its another carrier trying to make them look bad. You automatically ASSUMED I was a Verizon employee, which i am not (this makes you look like an ass!)
Regular people are cell phone junkies, just like you. And FYI... I dont need rollover. In the 7 years that I have had a phone, I have NEVER gone over my minutes. The only reason I use only 2.3 of my monthly minutes is because of my family plan with nights @ 7pm. If i dow
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PhoenixAshes said:...luckystar1982 said:PhoenixAshes said:
From what you are saying, you sound like a Verizon employee.
Acutally, I am a regular customer who lives in Colorado. Another thing that it so typical. Employees of CINGUALR see someone express a question or opinion & they assume its another carrier trying to make them look bad. You automatically ASSUMED I was a Verizon employee, which i am not (this makes you look like an ass!)
Regular people are cell phone junkies, just like you. And FYI... I dont need rollover. In the 7 years that I have had a phone, I have NEVER gone over my minutes. The only reason I use only 2.3 of my monthly minutes is because of my
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Shayby said:And I was a 16 year old dork.
Lmao yea that is old....not you the saying. Dam i was only two in 86 😲
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muchdrama said:
I haven't heard "check yourself" since the ill-fated dance off of '86. Yeah, I'm that old.
I'm right there with you.
I saw "check yourself" and immediately knew "word up" wasn't far behind.
Fear Cameo!
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PhoenixAshes said:What's sad is that I actually still use "word up" on occasion.muchdrama said:
I haven't heard "check yourself" since the ill-fated dance off of '86. Yeah, I'm that old.
I'm right there with you.
I saw "check yourself" and immediately knew "word up" wasn't far behind.
Fear Cameo!
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"bling bling" not so far behind "word up" lol. Soon to be replaced by "blizzle blizzle". fo schizzle.
word to ya moms
word to ya moms
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IT sounds to me like you not much of a junkie if you DONT USE THE PHONE. FACE IT cingular is the best, & will continue to grow & be the best even better. they other 41 billion seem to think that rollover is pretty cool. Whether we bought a company to get those customers or not. THEY ARE HAPPY. AS for being a Verizon rep. I though so too, you are the one sounding stupid 😛
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😕 Welcome to the 21st century my friend where phones have cameras, internet, and cigarette lighters built in. That's what happens when you don't die; you evolve.
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AT&T is probly about to be bought out by SBC if the FCC aproves it which means if that happens AT&T Wireless will never be heard from again and eventually you will need a new phone 😈 . But besides that nothing because you have what you need you are a basic user who wants no more than to pick up your phone and call and what you have works for u
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I'm not getting involved in the size contest here, but I will point out that your information, while correct, is incorrect. Let me explain:
After the breakup of Ma Bell, AT&T (along with all the other bells) became separate entities, free to do what they would. Eventually, as companies evolved, they expanded into the cellular market. AT&T did the same. Just like the ohters (i.e. SBC Wireless, etc.) they used their name as the wireless carrier name as well. Well, AT&T and AT&T Wireless split ways a while back. ATTWS was allowed to lease the name and carry the logo. That is the reason that AT&T Wireless is so very adamant about their separation from AT&T. That is why Cingular was allowed to buy ATTWS without the AT&T portion in the negotiat...
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After the breakup of Ma Bell, AT&T (along with all the other bells) became separate entities, free to do what they would. Eventually, as companies evolved, they expanded into the cellular market. AT&T did the same. Just like the ohters (i.e. SBC Wireless, etc.) they used their name as the wireless carrier name as well. Well, AT&T and AT&T Wireless split ways a while back. ATTWS was allowed to lease the name and carry the logo. That is the reason that AT&T Wireless is so very adamant about their separation from AT&T. That is why Cingular was allowed to buy ATTWS without the AT&T portion in the negotiat...
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I personally do like the rollover and M2M features because we do occasionally run over the monthly minutes (it's actually my husband that is more the yacker than I am! 😁). Mostly we don't need it and have like 4000 rollover minutes, but like someone said, when you DO have an overage, it's sure nice to not have that severe bite in the wallet.
I like a phone to just be a phone too, and prefer good reception to the cool factor, but I do like a color, easy-to-read display and nice-sounding ringtones.
Bottom line: everybody's different on what they like, and Cingular and the other cos. try to meet as many needs as possible. All big companies that depend on consumers to buy their product/service spend $ on market research just to find ...
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I like a phone to just be a phone too, and prefer good reception to the cool factor, but I do like a color, easy-to-read display and nice-sounding ringtones.
Bottom line: everybody's different on what they like, and Cingular and the other cos. try to meet as many needs as possible. All big companies that depend on consumers to buy their product/service spend $ on market research just to find ...
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It's all in the eye of the beholder. Who is better depends on the features one wants. FOR ME T-Mobile sucks because there's no coverage in the areas that I travel so therefore FOR ME Cingular is the best. That's my opinion based on my own needs. For one who lives in a big city with T-Mobile coverage and does not travel, for THAT INDIVIDUAL, T-mobile would be better because it cheaper. It's not fair for you to think one's opinion is wrong. Find out why they like OR dislike a service. Do the research talk to people. Whether you disagree or agree it only helps YOU make a better decision for yourself. 😕
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but with rollover you could go to a lower plan that you normally wouldn't go to because you would go over from time to time, and not have to worry bout overages.
i know when i switched i was able to drop my plan $20, and so far the rollover has helped on a few occasions. it's just finding that happy median.
i know when i switched i was able to drop my plan $20, and so far the rollover has helped on a few occasions. it's just finding that happy median.
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Well, if you were to switch to a plan that does not provide rollover, you would lose the rollover minutes that you have saved up to that point.
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Also... who really cares how cool a phone is...
ummmm... probably the same people who want all the bells and whistles in their cars, computers, etc....
In the 60's landline phones did not have any extra features besides making calls so their would be no reason to want a cooler phone.
Now cars on the other hand:
"hey man I just got the new 62 ford fairlane with A/C and check this out.... Power Windows!!!! how cool is that?"
"wow thats unbelievable. I want one like that!!"
Same applies to phones in todays reference
ummmm... probably the same people who want all the bells and whistles in their cars, computers, etc....
In the 60's landline phones did not have any extra features besides making calls so their would be no reason to want a cooler phone.
Now cars on the other hand:
"hey man I just got the new 62 ford fairlane with A/C and check this out.... Power Windows!!!! how cool is that?"
"wow thats unbelievable. I want one like that!!"
Same applies to phones in todays reference
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I can understand your argument you just want the kind of company that offers a basic phone and lots of peak mins--problem is no one wants your business because your patronage is of no value--companies make their money off of extras like ringtones graphics text messaging picture messaging mobile internet--they are building the non voice part of their networks to sell more of these things--they want to sell you phones with those extra capabilities--if you know what you want then by all means pro actively go out and find it but be realistic and dont expect companies to reach out and seek your business--the sooner you realise that companies dont want your patronage the less frustrated you will be--your best bet is to churn as much as possible--a...
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wow...someone really lit a fire here.... sadly the former number one also did the same thing. A GTE, Air Touch, etc merger made verizon number one
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I'm in AZ, and coverage here doesn't come close to comparing with even T-Mobile, let alone Verizon or Sprint.
When we're selling Cing, really the only thing we've got is the phone lineup.
I would love to see Cingular improve their network in the west, they've obviously got strength in the east, but to tell you the truth, AZ coverage is a joke, and a bad one at that.
When we're selling Cing, really the only thing we've got is the phone lineup.
I would love to see Cingular improve their network in the west, they've obviously got strength in the east, but to tell you the truth, AZ coverage is a joke, and a bad one at that.
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