So how many total??? Over 70 mil, yet?

Actually, more like 71M (counting the customers that belonged to Dobson)

So how far ahead of Verizon is AT&T???

Yep! I love it everytime these articles come out.... The "gap" is not closing in. No one is passing AT&T.
I always said it.

Anxiovert said:
The "gap" is not closing in. No one is passing AT&T.
I always said it.

hey, they could always buy alltel, or metro pcs.... 🙄 i think that would be the only way they would regain the #1 spot...

So how exactly big is the gap anyway? At least 3 mil? Hopefully closer to 5?

Verizon is 64 million and we had net adds ON POST PAY contracts ( you know the ones that actually make money for long periods of time )of 600,000 more than any other provider out there.



get educated.


thats why you are still riding our coat tails, you will never be us ....no matter how many times you change your colors or your brand name.

Funny, before VZW passed AT&T in that category, the goal was to pass AT&T overall.

sangyup81 said:
Funny, before VZW passed AT&T in that category, the goal was to pass AT&T overall.

LMAO!

IamTheGodfather said:
Verizon is 64 million and we had net adds ON POST PAY contracts ( you know the ones that actually make money for long periods of time )of 600,000 more than any other provider out there.



get educated.


thats why you are still riding our coat tails, you will never be us ....no matter how many times you change your colors or your brand name.

OH REALLY? Ever wonder why GoPhone Pay as you Go only works on this small network area?

Well heres some info: It's allowed on AT&T Home Zone network only. Meaning 1 thing: NO ROAMING FEES. AT&T's prepaid is pure profit. No costs go to other companies paying to use their towers.

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Their superiority complex is what makes them such a well run company though. You should try going through one of their training sessions. It's scary how they brainwash their employees. 😳

you may hate Verizon's business, but I bet if you had a few thousand dollars you would most likely invest that into VZW than AT&T.

wait, i'm not the OP that hates VZW
but yeah you sound like one of them

tnt2k1 said:
you may hate Verizon's business, but I bet if you had a few thousand dollars you would most likely invest that into VZW than AT&T.

This would be an interesting bet for you to make, considering that VZW is not a publically traded company, therefore you lose your bet by default.

you know what i mean ... if the opportunity was there

you lose

Hey Sangyup, do you work for Verizon, or AT&T, the dark side, or the light? That sounds so funny.

I don't work for either, but it certainly seems as though we share the same feelings about the two.

I'm a VZW dealer who was once an at&t dealer.

I can't say I like either as a company but I do like VZW's product for my customers better than at&t. I'm in the Northeast area so VZW is more entrenched here than at&t.

Oh! I'm originally from the Northeast area, Connecticut! But am foolish enough now to live in Las Vegas.

Both my mother, and middle sister are with AT&T, but my sister's family is with Verizon.

So what exactly did you mean when you said that you like Verizon's product more?

VZW coverage is generally better here locally plus VZW works in the Subway system (the METRO)

Personally, I don't need perfect coverage since I screen a lot of calls anyway (haha) and prefer texting and mobile e-mailing over phone calls but a vast majority of my customers are "old school." 😎

Well, why do you need to screen calls when caller ID has always been included in wireless service???

Personally, I'm not a big fan of txt because I think it's informal, I prefer either voice, or in person.

That's impressive that Verizon works in the subway it really is. I've only ridden the subway just a few times.

Jayshmay said:
Well, why do you need to screen calls when caller ID has always been included in wireless service???

Personally, I'm not a big fan of txt because I think it's informal, I prefer either voice, or in person.

Amen. I sure am glad I can get unlimited Internet with 200tect messages rather then have to pay more for unlimited. I rather make a call as well if it's that important.

I see kids especially spend more time texting and wearing the buttons out rather then just talking which would be a hell of alot faster and far more fulfilling.

Texting has it's place but not for casual conversation. Too much work.

Well technically it was 1.6M because AT&T had to give up some of the Dobson territory in some states because of the overlap of their territories, so that lost them some of Dobson's base.

I understand number don't mean anything and as long as your service works well, that's all that maters to most. Glad you're excited, but I just don't get your enthusiasm over numbers.

more subscribers = more market share = more money = more capital to invest with = more research and development = better product and service

MORE GREED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

greed makes sure everyone has better products and services.

go watch the aviator, specifically the part during the senate hearing.

Thats rather idealistic.

Interesting, but you forgot something.

It also means larger salaries and 'exit' packages for executives.

Brown27 does make a good point though. The obsession with constant growth is unsustainable.

Well of course it will be a larger salary because if they are doing their job correctly (getting more customers and market share), naturally they want to get paid for that. Paid on productivity right?

A bit idealistic? I would actually it's a bit simple but we all know its something along the lines like that. Research development = better products and service = more customers = more money ... repeat process.

I personally think Verizon Wireless is the company to invest in ... more profitable in my opinion (last time i checked; can someone confirm this if it is currently true that VZW is more profitable than at&t?)

I would say that more profit equals more market spectrum which gives larger coverage footprint. I doubt at&t does much r&d considering most innovations in GSM come from overseas and they don't manufacture their own handsets.

Verizon would probably be a sound investment, thats why Vodaphone won't sell back their portion to them even though they have asked for it back repeatadly.

you can't invest in Verizon Wireless, it's a privately held company

Also, Verizon Wireless is a DBA, the registered name is Cellco Partnership

Well yeah you can't invest in it ... but if you could ...

yeah, the closest you can do is invest in Verizon but then you have to get all their baggage like their landlines and FIOS (which will be great later but is a huge cost right now) and even if all that is ok with you, Verizon only gets 60% of the profits from Verizon Wireless whenever they issue a dividend

the other way is to go for the 40% owner, Vodafone but not sure how that will work out.....

and apparantly, vodafone is garbage. I like 3's service better.

tnt2k1 said:
Well of course it will be a larger salary because if they are doing their job correctly (getting more customers and market share), naturally they want to get paid for that. Paid on productivity right?

I see. I didn't realize that it was acceptable for a small number of people in the company to benefit disproportional to the rest.

I'm not entirely sure on profitability...but as far as annual revenues go AT&T was set to surpass Verizon in that arena two quarters ago. Now I haven't followed the numbers as closely so I'm not sure if that has occurred, but I'm assuming that it has. And if that's true, AT&T would come out the winner in profitability seeing as their expenditures are less.

😡 Thanks for not helping! Yeah that doesn't help much either, you can buy better, cooler GSM phones online that are unlocked! Shizzy!

Yeah, ATT has an open network, but they only guarantee service on voice. Text works most of the time, and it's been a rare occurance when I see mms and internet working on an unlocked GSM phone with ATT. I helped out a guy the other day who dropped an buttload of money on some kung-fu phone from china off ebay, unlocked and all, and it didn't work at all, period. Scary stuff. If the juice is worth the squeeze, though...

MauiBuilt said:
Yeah, ATT has an open network, but they only guarantee service on voice. Text works most of the time, and it's been a rare occurance when I see mms and internet working on an unlocked GSM phone with ATT. I helped out a guy the other day who dropped an buttload of money on some kung-fu phone from china off ebay, unlocked and all, and it didn't work at all, period. Scary stuff. If the juice is worth the squeeze, though...

People that cannot set up their phones for their networks have no business buying unbranded phones.

Their are plenty of phones that do it automatically when you indicate the Carrier.

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Plus the lack of warranty. I don't think people realize how easy AT&T makes the warranty on them. Even buying from an American manufacturer like Moto can be a pain in the ass when dealing with warranty. I had a customer buy one, make a warranty claim, get it back and come in and buy one outright when another issue appeared. He said it was worth just buying from AT&T to not have to go through it again.

Crapbag said:
Plus the lack of warranty. I don't think people realize how easy AT&T makes the warranty on them. Even buying from an American manufacturer like Moto can be a pain in the ass when dealing with warranty. I had a customer buy one, make a warranty claim, get it back and come in and buy one outright when another issue appeared. He said it was worth just buying from AT&T to not have to go through it again.

There are hundreds of People who buy Nokia phones without the warranty. The N82 does not have a warranty here in the US. Some of us are not warranty buyers and really don't worry about quality phones taking a crap. If they do Nokia will take care of them. They may send it to Finland but tha...
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