I used to work for at&t mobility. I left in July 07. Verizon did not like apple's terms. Apple's deal with at&t is one of a kind. At&t does not own the iphone and they give a percentage of profit on service to Apple. At&t totally whored themselves out. Verizon was not willing to be a slut. 🤣

simplymarcus said:
I used to work for at&t mobility. I left in July 07. Verizon did not like apple's terms. Apple's deal with at&t is one of a kind. At&t does not own the iphone and they give a percentage of profit on service to Apple. At&t totally whored themselves out. Verizon was not willing to be a slut. 🤣

Exactly. Verizon has always been a smart company financially. And they have a very loyal following despite their crippled phones and nickel diming of their customers. All I have to say is their netowk HAS to be the bomb.

Ehhh.. not so much.

Verizon isn't a network, but a series of smaller networks and roaming partners. Their primary roaming partner is... Sprint for the CDMA 1900 bandwidth. Verizon's home network area is very very tiny in most of the US.

As far as Verizon being approached first.. yeah, and Verizon didn't like the data requirments. AT&T felt they could absorb the data requirements for the phone and add a lot of customers... and they have been right so far.

ShackViperElite said:
Verizon isn't a network, but a series of smaller networks and roaming partners. Their primary roaming partner is... Sprint for the CDMA 1900 bandwidth. Verizon's home network area is very very tiny in most of the US.

I think you need to stop reaching up your @$% to get answers for questions you know nothing about. Sprint is not VZW primary roaming partner, in most cases Sprint is the bottom of the roaming list, so will be the last carrier the phone tries to use.
If you are calling VZW home network very very tiny, that would make AT&T and Sprint's network very very tiny as well, and T-mobile microscopic... maybe you should try using terms for compairison related to the subject.

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Let me guess.. you own a Verizon phone, don't you? So sad.. seems the brainwashing took hold.

I like how die hard AT&T retards try to blame brainwashing when they are confronted with facts..

ShackViperElite said:
Let me guess.. you own a Verizon phone, don't you? So sad.. seems the brainwashing took hold.

When your iphone breaks down try to take it to a ATT store. See what happens.

Meanwhile you can take any phone you buy at VZW right back to the store.

Whose network do you think Apple would have preferred to release the iphone on? Verizon will get an iphone in Q1 '09 if not sooner, if another phone doesn't stomp it into the ground before then, because of VZW's open network initiative.

I really hope VZW doesnt get an iphone.. or if they do that they get it without the retarded service fees to apple crap that AT&T signed on for.
Paying monthly service fees to the manufacturer has to be one of the stupidest things a company could ever agree to.

One of the first things the VZW rep asked me is if I worked for a big company in the area, which I do. My company gets corp discounts on service from VZW and AT&T.
I knew going into my iPhone purchase that the $400.00 selling price would not budge, weather it was 2 year agreement or corp discount or anything. What I did not know until I activated the iPhone was that any corp discount on rate plans could not be used with iPhone. The first of many Apple"isms"

With that said, where else can you get a smart phone plan that has 450 monthly minutes with rollover, 200 text messages, and unlimited data for $60.00 a month? I pay that $$ money now with VZW and I have a LG 8350 flip phone.

How can anyone keep all this straight??? 😕

will54880 said:
One of the first things the VZW rep asked me is if I worked for a big company in the area, which I do. My company gets corp discounts on service from VZW and AT&T.
I knew going into my iPhone purchase that the $400.00 selling price would not budge, weather it was 2 year agreement or corp discount or anything. What I did not know until I activated the iPhone was that any corp discount on rate plans could not be used with iPhone. The first of many Apple"isms"

With that said, where else can you get a smart phone plan that has 450 monthly minutes with rollover, 200 text messages, and unlimited data for $60.00 a month? I pay that $$ money now with VZW and I have a LG 8350 flip phone.

How can anyone ke

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primus said:
......The final straw that Apple refused to give in on was regarding support for the iPhone, Apple insisted on being the first level of support for the iPhone and VZW said no. This point was the breaking point as VZW was not going to let Apple come between them and their customers.

Which in Verizon's case would have been a good thing. The way the iPhone is clamped down it would have been a perfect fit for Verizon.

🤣 🤣 🤣

Did you even read what you replied to? Do you just think of random stuff to say and then hit reply and post it or something?

AvgJoe said:
Exactly. Verizon has always been a smart company financially. And they have a very loyal following despite their crippled phones and nickel diming of their customers. All I have to say is their netowk HAS to be the bomb.

AvgJoe ... that's probably one of the smartest things I've heard you said

u must be a verizon slut to say that

They don't care about you it's only business. They will lay you off in a heartbeat. If it saves them 2.00 on operating cost.

I've heard lots of bad things about that phone though. I mean, didnt Pizza Hut even have some deal where they were giving that phone away? I like my SE w810 a lot better; I think those phones came out around the same time.

The Chocolate would be better under AT&T.

I like the heat sensitive controls. Those are nice. GSM stomps CDMA.

The Sony Ericcson W580i is an awesome phone, but there is an issue with the keypad. It gets hairline fractures. My area rep got one and within a month he had cracks all over the keypad. It could be just from a lot of usage, but I know that Cell One actually put out a warning about it for dealers.

That's why I ditched it for the Treo 750.

Simple, at&t doesn't like LG as much as VZW does.

I wouldn't say that... LG and ATT / Cingular have had some awesome phones together... The CU500 still ranks one of the best phones ATT has had in recent years.

The simple fact though is that LG is primarily a CDMA device company. It's easier for them to make CDMA style phones than GSM, just like it's easier for Sony Ericson to make GSM than CDMA. Companies go with what they know... and not too often do they venture outside the realms of comfort to try new things.

To be honest though, the first generation of "Chocolates" were pretty bad in terms of construction. Much like the first generation of Razors. It became popular through advertising and the rest followed suit.

One thing I will give Verizon is that they promote the hell out of their phones. Where Spring advertises (not sure what those commercials are doing anymore) and ATT focuses on their network, Verizon puts many dollars into promoting their phones.