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BJ 2 In Walmart Stores for $128 and No waiting on rebates!

justinwilliams

Dec 13, 2007, 5:45 PM
just wanted to let you guys know...
no data plan required. Beats paying 249 and waiting on a 100 rebate. 😁
Later...
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chainsaw

Dec 13, 2007, 5:59 PM
@#$# yourself don't post here anymore.
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phatbasstard

Dec 13, 2007, 6:16 PM
chainsaw said:
@#$# yourself don't post here anymore.


lmao đŸ¤Ŗ đŸ¤Ŗ đŸ¤Ŗ đŸ¤Ŗ đŸ¤Ŗ đŸ¤Ŗ
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justinwilliams

Dec 13, 2007, 6:30 PM
I thought this forum was to share useful info? That is exactlly what I did.... Sorry if you are ripping people off on your phone prices, and can't compete with other retailers.
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chainsaw

Dec 13, 2007, 6:39 PM
So you don't support small and local businesses or a proper retail sales experience? I'm glad to see you have never worked on commission.
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justinwilliams

Dec 13, 2007, 8:37 PM
Actually I have owned my own chain of indirect T-mobile stores and there is a difference in being competitive and price gouging. =)

I sold them a few years back... and yes I actually work on 100% commission now. =)
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chainsaw

Dec 13, 2007, 8:57 PM
wireless city?
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justinwilliams

Dec 13, 2007, 9:56 PM
Lets Talk Wireless (Oklahoma)
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chainsaw

Dec 13, 2007, 10:24 PM
hmm, don't have those out here.
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turnman34

Dec 13, 2007, 10:25 PM
Lets Talk, they are a joke. i just attempted to buy phones from them. they royally screwed my order up. i should have listened to people like chainsaw and go to the retailer direct. we could go on all night and day about the lousy cs that Lets Talk provides...not sure i want to. makes my blood boil đŸ‘ŋ

peace!! 🙂
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chainsaw

Dec 14, 2007, 12:07 AM
Don't think that I tell customer not to buy from specific vendors. The only thing I tell customers is to do their research and buy from whoever they are most comfortable making a purchase from, and if price is their major concern I'll tell them the best I can do.
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justinwilliams

Dec 14, 2007, 12:26 PM
I (meaning me) owned 3 retail indirect T-Mobile stores. The company name was Lets Talk Wireless.... This is different than the internet Lets Talk internet people....
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ygbhen

Dec 14, 2007, 3:49 PM
No matter what the name is, he had no excuse to come at you like that. You presented a good piece of info that somebody might or might not use. If he is so sensitive to other people going to the competition, then maybe he should find another career instead of acting like a pompous a**! His coments were totally uncalled for.
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chainsaw

Dec 14, 2007, 4:18 PM
Hey don't call me an a$$, a$$ hole. Maybe I over reacted so what, I get passionate when someone talks about wal-mart just like thousands of other people. I'd like to see more useful information exchange on here then spamming walmart pricing.
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justinwilliams

Dec 14, 2007, 6:07 PM
Hey... I kinda take offense to that comment... 😁

You want useful info.... How about all the useful info I post in this forum.

I was the original person to do a writeup on how to get Skype on smartphones when it was PPC only.

I did the writeup on howto convert a Moto a630 (tmobile) to a cingular phone. I was the only one who possessed the firmware and still offer it for FREE.

I did the Nintendo for BJ 1 writeup here...

I could go on and on..... I'm stepping off my soapbox now.

😁
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chainsaw

Dec 14, 2007, 6:46 PM
I know, thats the type of info I like off this site and I try to contribute to the phonescoop community. Don't get wrong on that. Most of my posts aren't slamming people like this one I try to be informative and I'm appreciative of your contributions and that of others on here.
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ygbhen

Dec 14, 2007, 6:59 PM
If it walks like a duck and quack like a duck, then it is a duck and you presented yourself as an a**. Since you did not need the info, why not say nothing at all? Why the need to berate someone who was just passing along something that could have been beneficial to someone else? Just because you are passionate about something does not give you the right to behave like a cro-magnon. Although you know a few people who have had bad experiences dealing with Walmart, I bet you that you can find just as many who's transaction went well for them. I don't think it is too much to ask for us to respect each other unless someone disrespects you. Lets act like adults and leave the emotion-filled teenage insults in middle school 😉
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chainsaw

Dec 14, 2007, 7:10 PM
I'll be an a$$ all I want on phonescoop. It doesn't matter what I say here. But out of respect for humanity I'll try to keep the insults to a minimum. ok bud?
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ygbhen

Dec 14, 2007, 7:15 PM
4sho đŸ¤Ŗ
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chainsaw

Dec 14, 2007, 7:28 PM
that would be a sweet license plate 😉 wanna here something messed up? I might apply for a national retail account position that supports wal-mart 😕 That would be unfortunate but I gotta make my rent ☚ī¸
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ygbhen

Dec 14, 2007, 7:35 PM
Oh yeah, I got that from Superbad đŸ¤Ŗ

On the other thing, you gotta do what you gotta do. I am no big fan of them either. After seeing a special on how some of their stores handle their employees, it will be a long day before I spend money with them unless it is a super-necessity. The crazy thing is here in Houston it is almost as many Walmarts as there are Burger Kings. I have 3 less than 5 miles from my apartment.
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chainsaw

Dec 14, 2007, 8:26 PM
thats crazy. The other thing that bugs me is how much influence they have with local governments and how they can get zoning changed to allow their stores to be built, but I guess that is more to do with the property developers than walmart.
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plmassey

Dec 15, 2007, 12:48 PM
My two cents. I do believe he told the man he was sorry, so get off his back!!! At&t has been very good to me and I would not go any where else, plus, Chainsaw has baeen very helpful to me.. He made a mistake and he apoligized.. Thank you Chainsaw for your help.
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chainsaw

Dec 15, 2007, 12:52 PM
Thanks Paul! I did overreact, but forgiveness is the christian thing to do 😉
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Guy Montag

Dec 13, 2007, 10:15 PM
Lol, you sell tmo but own AT&T? Or are you just admitting to being a troll?
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justinwilliams

Dec 14, 2007, 12:28 PM
I sold my stores back in 2004.... Both T-mo and Cingy are good.... Tmo is better price wise, but Cingy has faster data sppeds i my area...
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chainsaw

Dec 14, 2007, 12:32 PM
The industry has changed so much since 04 for us. Our volume is down 30% company wide. Super bummer. I wish I could go back to 05, good times.
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justinwilliams

Dec 14, 2007, 4:01 PM
That's why I sold my stores.... right before Alltel and US Cellular came to our market... I saw it coming... Both those companies stole mega business the first 6 months they were here too..... you know it's like the new girl in school... everyone thinks she is hot... till about 2 months later everyone figures out she is a man.... lol
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chainsaw

Dec 14, 2007, 4:14 PM
đŸ¤Ŗ đŸ¤Ŗ Totally.
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maverick218

Dec 18, 2007, 12:47 PM
Yep, sales are tight right now.
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maverick218

Dec 18, 2007, 11:27 AM
If you really owned stores, then your comment about price gouging is ridiculous. I am an authorized retailer for one of the leading providers, and I don't know how T-Mo does business with their agents, but the price that I pay to purchase phones from my provider is MORE that what I sell them for with a contract; that's not price gouging. I have to wait almost 60 days (depending an act date) to get my commission, and even then in some cases, I break even. We follow the prices that my provider gives us (which are the same as corp stores).
Wal-Mart (and other national retailers), buy in bulk, don't pay commissions, and don't train their employees the way corporate stores and authorized retailers do.
Wal-Mart is my biggest competitor in the ...
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cellking05

Dec 23, 2007, 9:42 PM
Maverick,

I completely understand where you are coming from, but I have a problem. I work in the dealer channel for Cellular One(Now AT&T) and I offer support and training to both Local and National Retailers. I find it offensive to say "we are taking food off of your table". I have been in the wireless industry over 5 years and have understood basic principle; you are responsible for your paycheck. Don't get mad when a customer chooses to go to Wal-Mart versus your store. You have to work with what you got. I have never complained about how I was going to get the numbers I need to make the money I want.

Here is the true testimony for you to better yourself in your own selling abilities. Stop worrying about what Wal-Mart is doing and w...
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chainsaw

Dec 13, 2007, 6:52 PM
Walmart is trying to make it so no one can compete with them which is detrimental to the economy. But, I guess I shouldn't be too concerned because I always get people coming in to buy phones from me because the people at walmart have no idea whats going on. And as long as people are willing to pay a little extra to talk to someone who knows the devices, services, and the industry our stores will stay open. Sorry to get short with you, I just don't like people who support wal-mart because they are ruining small businesses and making it nearly impossible to compete for some.
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justinwilliams

Dec 13, 2007, 8:41 PM
Well.... you are correct they usually aren't as familiar with most complicated issues, however they can activate a phone and tell you about each plan just fine....

You must work at an indirect store where you are "one of those reps" who find out someone got their phone from Walmart and still won't answer a simple question for them becuase you didn't get to make the commission.... and if you work for corporate... isn't it your job to take care of customer after the sale no matter where they go their phone?
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chainsaw

Dec 13, 2007, 8:57 PM
justinwilliams said:

You must work at an indirect store where you are "one of those reps" who find out someone got their phone from Walmart and still won't answer a simple question for them becuase you didn't get to make the commission....



You've got to be kidding me. That is a personality flaw and would have nothing to do with whether I work for direct or indirect. I would never not help a person that is not who I am. I always get people coming back to me because according to my customers ," You are the only one who knows the answer and has been willing to help me, I've gone to these other stores and they refused to help me because I wasn't buying anything" My company has been rated higher than any i...
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justinwilliams

Dec 13, 2007, 10:03 PM
How can you make that statement? "if we were to try and match walmart pricing to stay in business we wouldn't be there" .... You don't even know what your company is making in comission....nevermind you residuals.... so how can you say that again?

By the way... if customer service is in your mission statement then how well do you think you are coming off when you speak to me..... a customer ....like that?...lol

anyway...im going to argue all night... I just know aroud here you can call all the major indirects Jackie Cooper Wireless, Totally Wireless... and they all lie to you... They are all shady... Hell they tried to tell me that Walmart only sells used phones and that is how they can give me that price. I just laughed....

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Guy Montag

Dec 13, 2007, 10:20 PM
justinwilliams said:
How can you make that statement? "if we were to try and match walmart pricing to stay in business we wouldn't be there" .... You don't even know what your company is making in comission....nevermind you residuals.... so how can you say that again?

By the way... if customer service is in your mission statement then how well do you think you are coming off when you speak to me..... a customer ....like that?...lol

anyway...im going to argue all night... I just know aroud here you can call all the major indirects Jackie Cooper Wireless, Totally Wireless... and they all lie to you... They are all shady... Hell they tried to tell me that Walmart only sells used phones and that is how they can give me
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justinwilliams

Dec 14, 2007, 4:02 PM
hey idiot... I implied MOST NOT ALL.....MOST NOT ALL.... so how does this make me a liar again?
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chainsaw

Dec 13, 2007, 10:36 PM
I am a store manager, I know exactly how much profit we get on every sale. I know how much my rent is and I know that if I were to discount more sales down to the pricing wal mart offers my store would lose money and get closed along with a large number of our stores.



I've been doing this for a while I'm not an idiot. I know that indirects are notorious for lying, but like I said this is more due to the personality and character of the individuals working for a shotty company. Its hard for indirects to make it now due to carriers cutting commissions and competition from different distribution channels as well as the rate of penetration for wireless is leading to less gross adds. For some of these dealers to stay in business they lie....
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AvgJoe

Dec 14, 2007, 2:00 AM
Great thread. However I have to side with Wal Mart on this one. Thee is so much turn over in the wireless industry not many know more then Wal Mart employees.

Verizon has a permanent Help Wanted sign and number in their window in the Mall.

Customer service is a thing of the past and Chainsaw you are in the minority. I say buy where you pay the least and do your own homework.
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chainsaw

Dec 14, 2007, 4:45 AM
AvgJoe said:
1. There is so much turn over in the wireless industry not many know more then Wal Mart employees.

2. Customer service is a thing of the past and Chainsaw you are in the minority.


1. So So true, but those who know their crap do well.

2. I have actually seen a shift in people who care more about customer service, its so 1950's.


Don't be such a defeatist.
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AvgJoe

Dec 14, 2007, 2:18 PM
chainsaw said:
AvgJoe said:
1. There is so much turn over in the wireless industry not many know more then Wal Mart employees.

2. Customer service is a thing of the past and Chainsaw you are in the minority.


1. So So true, but those who know their crap do well.

2. I have actually seen a shift in people who care more about customer service, its so 1950's.


Don't be such a defeatist.


No being defeatist. But Customer service at it's best is a long time gone. We are dealing with endless looped pre programed answering devices, "salespeople" who know little about what they are selling and make things up to cover.

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chainsaw

Dec 14, 2007, 2:20 PM
I guess it depends on your priorities.
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AvgJoe

Dec 16, 2007, 9:43 PM
chainsaw said:
I guess it depends on your priorities.

My priorities are to make a purchase from a SERVICE company that does that singly expected job well. ATT is not a retailer. It s a service company that sells a service and chums for business guising themselves as retail stores.

ATT is a service company. ATT sales people and Verizon, as well as the rest are "Summer jobs" for the most part or treated as such. When there is huge turnover in a job its a sign that

A) It's not a career position
B) There is not a whole lot of "training needed" perhaps weeks rather then years.
c) it's primarily commission based with without A and B above is a ridiculous notion.

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chainsaw

Dec 17, 2007, 3:50 PM
Thats why i said it is based on your priorities. I do have customers who will pay a little more to buy through me because I can answer their questions correctly and efficiently, but then again, I also have people use me as information and then purchase online or at wal-mart or bestbuy. As much as I want to get mad at them I don't because I still want them coming back to buy accessories or features for their account. Either way, I have just about reached rock bottom in wireless I'm ready to get out.
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AvgJoe

Dec 21, 2007, 12:25 AM
chainsaw said:
Thats why i said it is based on your priorities. I do have customers who will pay a little more to buy through me because I can answer their questions correctly and efficiently, but then again, I also have people use me as information and then purchase online or at wal-mart or bestbuy. As much as I want to get mad at them I don't because I still want them coming back to buy accessories or features for their account. Either way, I have just about reached rock bottom in wireless I'm ready to get out.


And that's why you are a class act and I am sure very successful as would any person be who delivers equal quality service to those regardless of where they paid their commission.
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justinwilliams

Dec 14, 2007, 4:11 PM
Thank You

😁
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doll777

Dec 21, 2007, 7:49 PM
I actually I side with chainsaw. Walmart has bad business practices and treat their employees like crap. Purchasing from them is financing them to keep these practices. Also they are forcing more and more companies out of business which strains our economy even more. They purchase so much stuff from China and other nations that American jobs are slowly disappearing and the only way to stop this is for the country to stand up for themselves and refuse to purchase from Walmart and other companies with the policies.

Anyway that is the end of my rant. 😁
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chainsaw

Dec 24, 2007, 1:28 PM
doll777 said:
They purchase so much stuff from China and other nations that American jobs are slowly disappearing and the only way to stop this is for the country to stand up for themselves and refuse to purchase from Walmart and other companies with the policies.

😁


This is a complete pipedream. Americans will never stand up to companies like wal-mart...at least not effectively. The only way to stop the importing of goods from china is with policy changes from the top down.
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justinwilliams

Dec 14, 2007, 4:09 PM
I do not own the stores anymore and now I share all of my knowledge with others ....to help them.... weather it be technically or financially..... that is why I posted what I did in the first place.

I do not care if my info hurts indirects or corps...hell why are you questioning me on why I am providing this info.... shouldn't you be questioning ATT on why they are letting a reseller sell a phone cheaper than them.... and yes I know WalMart controls their phone pricing .... so if your company is so big why can't they strike a "WalMart" deal and be able to offe these deals?...and make the same money without going under? Not to mention my ...how many activations did my post cost you exactly?
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bojmir

Dec 14, 2007, 4:11 PM
You simply cant afford to sell a samsung sync for free with a 2 yr upgrade on a $9.99 secondary line. If fact, we would lose money. If its a family plan activation we can usually match the wal mart price, but people hate the rebates and want the instant rebates like national retail offers.
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chainsaw

Dec 14, 2007, 4:27 PM
Because I don't sell bread and milk and dvd's here. I only make money on activations, accessories, and features. Walmart barely needs to make crap per activation they are too powerful and no indirect would ever be able to survive if they did all their pricing at walmart pricing.

No carriers care what their distributors sell their devices at, they only want to see activations so it is adventageous for them to have as many distribtion channels as possible.

Sorry for overreacting, I get pissed off at walmart and how they have so much power over retail and can screw the little guys over with their buying power. I'm sure your post didn't cost me any activations becuase we haven't had a lot of people asking about the BJ II yet.
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justinwilliams

Dec 14, 2007, 4:55 PM
about this "No carriers care what their distributors sell their devices at, they only want to see activations so it is adventageous for them to have as many distribtion channels as possible."

I disagree.... why does it make sense to pay a compnay 300 in comission for an activation.... when they could drive sales through the corp stores and pay 20 bucks per act commission to a rep?

I know they had to do this to get all the stores going.... but mark my words... they will weed out indirects.... You are already seeing commission cuts etc..

Let me tell you why I canned T-Mobile. It's becuase the cut our comission by half. On a 39.99 rate plan and above I was paid 440. Hell on a 69.99+ Family plan I was paid 880....

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chainsaw

Dec 14, 2007, 5:08 PM
Thats a bunch of hogwash that really sucks.

I could see the industry phasing out indirects all together and going with corp stores and national retail only but it will probably be a while. What they did in our market was basically give us the contract, there is literally not another indirect store in my state selling at&t and we have little competition in colorado. They also took away the contract from real shady dealers like mobile solution. So as a company we are in a pretty good position to succeed if we can do things right and not treat our customers like crap

We actually used to sell t-mobile too up till feb of 2005 and we are very glad we got rid of them.
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bojmir

Dec 15, 2007, 12:08 PM
justinwilliams said:
Let me tell you why I canned T-Mobile. It's becuase the cut our comission by half. On a 39.99 rate plan and above I was paid 440. Hell on a 69.99+ Family plan I was paid 880....


wow i wish we got paid that. you dont want to know what we get paid on $9.99 upgrades, its rediculous and barely make money. Thanks goodness for features, at least we get paid good there. Eventually I can see indirects going away, but not for a while. When the market gets more saturated and activations go to next to nothing, indirects will suffer due to the shotty commission scale for upgrades...
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maverick218

Dec 18, 2007, 12:42 PM
So... what you are saying is that they don't lie at Wal-Mart to get a sale???
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chainsaw

Dec 18, 2007, 5:30 PM
probably not, atleast they don't actively lie, they just don't know the truth so they make something up. They don't get paid commission and have no incentives to sell a specific carrier so there is no reason to lie.
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maverick218

Dec 18, 2007, 12:39 PM
You are correct, it is our job to take care of all customers, but the resentment comes from the fact that wal-mart undercuts us on price where we can't compete, and because their employees can't help the customers, they come to us for help. As someone who supposedly owned an authorized dealership, you should understand that. By making the comment about "one of those reps", I seriously doubt that you did. It sounds to me that you either work for Wal-Mart or are a corporate rep.
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ant1171984

Dec 14, 2007, 8:24 AM
All I can say is wow. Telling someone to go f*** themselves and never post again. Well how about you never breathe again...how about that? Sounds rude doesn't it? I'm sure if you could get a gently used car with 200 miles on it at Car Max for $5000 less for the EXACT car that has the exact amount of miles on it at the dealership you would run with carmax. At the end of the day....we are all consumers. With gas prices, inflation, this nonsense war, our economy is crap....so everyone shops around. I actually ONLY buy my phones at wal-mart because they are VERY reasonably priced compared to a corporate AT&T store. The prices at the corporate stores are OUTRAGEOUS and I don't care what you our anyone else has to say...they just are. And...
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bojmir

Dec 14, 2007, 2:59 PM
What place doesnt have outrageous prices compared to wal-mart? People were completely satisfied with COR prices before wal-mart. BTW, COR PRICE MATCHES sometimes depending on the situation and so will many agents. Not all COR stores are the same, if you play secret shopper some may be knowledgable and some may not be...but its unfortunate your experiences have been otherwise...
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justinwilliams

Dec 14, 2007, 6:03 PM
so are you saying we were completely satasified with the RAZR when it was 499 with a 2 yr contract.... or the 499 4gb iphone only to be dropped in price after a few weeks?

Come on!

We had no choice but to be ripped off if we wanted a desent phone.
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chainsaw

Dec 14, 2007, 6:42 PM
The razr was never decent. Now the sony ericsson w810i for $80 after rebate that was a good deal!
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bojmir

Dec 15, 2007, 2:25 PM
The RAZR isnt a desent phone. When it first came out it was cutting edge technology, no other phone was like it. Therefore they could charge a premium for it, same for the iPhone. Just basic economics, supply and demand determines price most of the time. There are many other phones people could of gotten at the time besides the razr at a reasonable price, its the consumers choice if they wanted to pay $x.xx for phone.
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maverick218

Dec 18, 2007, 12:51 PM
I have always tried to match prices when it's economically feasible. Most of the time it's not with wal-mart. Let's face it, no matter how much we all want to make sales, matching a price that would get you a sale but loose you money is bad for business.
After all, if you are in business for yourself, you are in it to make a profit.
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maverick218

Dec 18, 2007, 12:40 PM
It's not a sales rep's job to know about towers.
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turnman34

Dec 13, 2007, 7:32 PM
that's not to cheap for a BJ. oh you meant for the phone. lol...
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turnman34

Dec 13, 2007, 7:37 PM
turnman34 said:
that's not to cheap for a BJ. oh you meant for the phone. lol...

sorry i just had to.
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crashnbrn3

Dec 13, 2007, 7:54 PM
😲 I was thinking the same thing but I didn't want to be the one to say it... 😉
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mes3010

Dec 14, 2007, 10:02 AM
I have to say I agree with chainsaw on this topic. I understand everyone wants the best deal they can find, I know I do this to. But sometimes it is better to pay a little more money to have the peace of mind things are done right. If you are a savy consumer who knows about phones then yes you may have a fine experience with Walmart and their service. But from my experience for the Average Joe walmart can cause numerous problems. Just the other day I had a lady come in my store wanting to know why her bill was so high. I reviewed her bill to see she was not on the plan she thought she signed up for. She said the rep at walmart told her she was on the $39.99 450 plan and true she was on a $39.99 plan but a data only plan. So every call she ma...
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justinwilliams

Dec 14, 2007, 4:14 PM
"Just want to throw that out to show yes the customer may have got a great deal on a phone but when she went back to walmart with her bill first they shrugged their shoulders and sent her to us."

1. If you dislike Walmart so much... contact your district rep and get it delt with.

2. Isn't it your job to make sure the customer is on the correct rate plan etc.... ? How exactly do corp store reps fix their bill? I bet you tell them... "I can't help you with that. You need to CALL customer care"....lol..Then you complain here that you have to deal with them....
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mes3010

Dec 15, 2007, 11:13 AM
You misunderstand where I'm coming from. I did help the customer - while she was in the store I personally called customer service and got her bill straightened out just as I would have for anybody else. My point is yeah she may have got the phone cheaper but it wasn't done correctly therefor it took more of her time to wait to have it fixed. I personally would rather pay a little more to someone who knows what their doing than to buy a phone from someone who doesn't know much about what they are selling.

And we have spoke with our rep many times about the problems with our local walmart's service - and you know what they can't do anything about it either.

And again I'm not complaining I have to deal with the customers - I'm complain...
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wfine81

Dec 15, 2007, 11:27 AM
I hear you, I am a Verizon agent and have the same problems with phones that are bought at walmart, they have no clue what the yare doing for the most part.
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chainsaw

Dec 15, 2007, 12:07 PM
Its hard to motivate someone to care when they make $9/hr with no incentives and sell multiple carriers.
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bojmir

Dec 15, 2007, 12:10 PM
they make that much!? I figured it would be around $7-$8...
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chainsaw

Dec 15, 2007, 12:17 PM
just a shot in the dark with that figure, thats what they told me when I interviewed to be an RAE for national retail, but they could have been talking about best buy 😉
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WM6user

Dec 15, 2007, 12:46 PM
Too bad it's not in AZ.
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justinwilliams

Dec 15, 2007, 3:54 PM
call a few stores..... because it wasn't at a few stores here...they still had the BJ 1 for 28.88
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WM6user

Dec 15, 2007, 4:27 PM
I may do that, if my 750 craps out on me.
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libra03

Dec 16, 2007, 9:09 PM
All samsung phones are 50% off and the blackjack 2 is only 174.99 before a 100 dollar mir, so walmart is screwing you all over....and this is at a corporate store
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justinwilliams

Dec 17, 2007, 10:08 AM
nice try.... but no... goto the website... add it to your cart and try to checkout it's 229 with a 100 mir. =)
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dromant

Dec 17, 2007, 10:18 AM
Umm... thats why he said "AT A CORPORATE STORE" - store pricing and online pricing are different. ATT was running some pre-christmas specials with the blackjack and blackjack II much cheaper than the walmart pricing you mentioned - check out a store for youself, you might like it 😁
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chainsaw

Dec 17, 2007, 12:02 PM
This also requires purchase of a data plan to get the MIR.
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justinwilliams

Dec 17, 2007, 2:14 PM
and the Walmart offer does not... =)
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chainsaw

Dec 17, 2007, 3:41 PM
I wouldn't really want the phone if I Wasn't using the internet anyways, otherwise a blackberry makes a better dayplanner and has better batterylife.
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justinwilliams

Dec 18, 2007, 9:59 AM
There are many more apps for a Windows based device vs a BB..... not to mention I can play nintendo, supernintendo, etc all on a windows phone.... can't on a BB...

Just my .02

p.s.... and I know some WM hater will come in right behind me and say how much it crashes etc.... but I must of had great luck with my devices becuase none of them have died. =)
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chainsaw

Dec 18, 2007, 5:33 PM
justinwilliams said:
not to mention I can play nintendo, supernintendo, etc all on a windows phone..

Just my 02 kb



Nerd 😉
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doll777

Dec 23, 2007, 11:49 AM
actually for most PDA phones now all you need for the MIR is an Unlimited text messaging plan or a data plan which ever you prefer.
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nization

Dec 18, 2007, 10:04 PM
I am in unison with Chainsaw. I am a manager at an indirect att dealer. Though I know there are way too many shady dealers/sales people in this industry we are not one of them. I train my associates to be knowledgable and to price fairly. Still we lose many customers to large corporations, just like all small businesses. It just fact that some of their prices we cannot match or we LOSE money! I have many customers come to drain us of knowledge and fix problems but buy elsewhere. We still treat them nicely even though I beleive that is extremely rude. Unfortunalty being a knowledgable, customer oriented store will most likely lead us to bankruptcy, because of people like you. like everything else you buy walmart will be cheaper, that doesn't ...
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AvgJoe

Dec 19, 2007, 12:17 PM
The whining about Wal Mart is amazing. They are successful becasue they were not greedy in the early days. People seem to forget Wal Mart was a small store at one time and grew because people LIKED to shop there and SAVED money.

Sam Walton was on to something. People that OWN small business shopped there as well. They cannot have it both ways. I don't charity shop. I shop where I get the best value for my money. Sometimes that INCLUDES paying more for the service after the sale. Sometimes not (like cell phone sales) I do not need the service. I can get plenty of phone information from Howards and other forums about a phone. MAny who know far more than the recently hired hand at an ATT Store
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chainsaw

Dec 19, 2007, 12:26 PM
I shop wherever I can get a fair value and support my local economy. Shopping local will have many positive ramifications in the long run!
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chainsaw

Dec 19, 2007, 12:25 PM
I have a funny storey about wal-mart. My roomate went there the other day to buy a radio flyer wagon for his nephew. HE said it took him one hour to check out because there were people with 2-3 cart fulls of merchandise! HE also said there was a lady buying 30-2liter pepsi bottles. When the clerk cracked a joke about whether their family liked pepsi or not, the lady said "well they are for my husband, he drinks one every day at work!"

I was astounded! I really hope they dont' have kids.
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klaw83

Dec 20, 2007, 3:46 PM
I think $128 for 2 BJ's is a hell of a deal! I paid $200 in vegas for a happy ending! đŸ¤Ŗ
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shindig

Dec 20, 2007, 6:50 PM
yeah everybody go to walmart and let those retards with thier GED's or lack their of **** your account up just to save a couple bucks...Dont be stupid most stores will match wal-mart...go to a COR store where thay actually know about what they are selling...we take showers, they dont, we are more knowledgeable, they are stupid,
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AvgJoe

Dec 24, 2007, 12:18 PM
shindig said:
yeah everybody go to walmart and let those retards with thier GED's or lack their of **** your account up just to save a couple bucks...Dont be stupid most stores will match wal-mart...go to a COR store where thay actually know about what they are selling...we take showers, they dont, we are more knowledgeable, they are stupid,


You forget people who seek out and read sites like this are more savy then most impulse buyers and getting two Black Jacks for $128 is a great deal for them.

Further reading the rants of those who work in ATT stores CONFIRM it. All one has to do is call ATT after the sale and ensure their rate plan is as agreed and they will be fine.

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shindig

Dec 24, 2007, 1:22 PM
I hope your not a wal-mart rep...cause if you are your making them look even worse bye telling a customer to call at&t to make sure the wal-mart employee did thier job right, I dont know about you but I always want my customer to leave knowing what happened...regardless how often you see different faces in a store its even more piiful that the new faces in the kiosk or store location know more then the wal-mart employess that has been working thier for years...it all comes down to how poorley wal-mart trains thier employees
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chainsaw

Dec 24, 2007, 1:24 PM
What avg joe is saying, is that people typically on this site can get their service plan resolved and know what to look for and will shop price on equipment only.
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AvgJoe

Dec 24, 2007, 11:21 PM
chainsaw said:
What avg joe is saying, is that people typically on this site can get their service plan resolved and know what to look for and will shop price on equipment only.


Exactly. those who visit sites like this and Howards do not need the help of sales people are are more likely to shop price over hand holding.

Thats why posts like the OP is especially damaging. because anyone hErE looking for a BJ will go to Wal Mart.
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chainsaw

Dec 25, 2007, 11:23 AM
I watched this documentary on wal-mart last night. I am now glad to say I will never shop their again! They are so crooked!
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unknownsoul278

Dec 26, 2007, 5:39 PM
Yeah but WalMart service for cell phones sucks. Everyone who buys a phone at Walmart here has to bring it to our store to have it activated, and guess what?.. We won't do it! If you want good service from the local store, don't buy a phone at WalMart and expect that. After the initial purchase, they offer no more help, and a lot more small stores are starting to deny help to ppl who do not buy their initial phones with them. Any why should we help? I am not going to spend time activating or troubleshooting a phone not initially purchased from my employer.
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