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No contract to upgrade?

ecnar9

Oct 17, 2007, 4:04 PM
Recent news states that existing customers can upgrade without renewing or extending a contract. As a TDMA customer (holding out for Q4 07 phones and the best deal), I get text messages from AT$T about upgrading to GSM. Does this mean that I can now upgrade without entering a new contract?
Thanks,
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wfine81

Oct 17, 2007, 4:22 PM
I think your getting your wires crossed, you can change your plan without extending your contract, but "upgrading" implies new equiptment which would require another contract.
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joeys

Nov 23, 2007, 11:14 AM
What if you pay the full price for the equipment?
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PhonemanJ

Nov 23, 2007, 11:58 AM
Then no contract is required. However, the retail price of even the most basic of phones is around $200 and if you are looking for a more featured phone, you are looking $300 and up. If you are going to have service with ATT anyway, why not sign the 2-yr contract and get the discount on the phone?
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joeys

Nov 23, 2007, 12:03 PM
Good point. I was just thinking if the original poster wanted to avoid a contract, they could pay the retail price and get service, however, I know I would rather just sign the 2-yr contract and get the discounted price.
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texaswireless

Nov 23, 2007, 3:17 PM
Not necessarily true.

AT&T allows customers to get a new phone with or without an agreement. The only difference is the discount.

2 year gets a subsidy where 1 yr and no contract usually do not.

If he has a plan that he wants to keep no contract is required. If he wants rollover, unity, free MTM that MAY require an agreement.
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3g-g-g-unit

Nov 23, 2007, 4:05 PM
texaswireless said:


2 year gets a subsidy where 1 yr and no contract usually do not.





???

This is wrong. AT&T's upgrade policy is similar to Sprint in the fact that a customer basically saves $150 off with a 2 year agreement and $75 with a 1 year agreement. And actually you can get a phone for $75 more than advertised prices after only 6 months by doing an "exception upgrade".

The major difference between the 2 is how they're advertised. ATT will always only advertise the least expensive option, which most accounts do not qualify for.

Hope I posted in the right place C bag.
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texaswireless

Nov 23, 2007, 4:10 PM
The sentance you quoted of mine is not wrong. Just because they save money does not mean the phone is subsidized.

And it least in North Texas the "Exception Upgrade" officially is gone. While they may allow things on a case by case basis no one is automatically approved for "exceptions" as a rule. Again, at least in this market.

I love when idiots post smart a$$ remarks and they are wrong. Is subsidized too big of a word?
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3g-g-g-unit

Nov 23, 2007, 4:58 PM
I love when C-bags cover up their misinformation with a "in my market" statement, like anyone other than steers and queers have Texas-specific info. But looking at CSP, you're wrong. If I was someone who enjoyed gaining commission, I would disregard most anything you say.

I know your mouth probably still tastes of taint and K-Y, still no reason to get snippy with me Brokeback.
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3g-g-g-unit

Nov 23, 2007, 5:19 PM
Sorry, I fully understand what subsidizing is, and in fact you are wrong again Skippy. Even with a $75 discount, a customer would still be paying less than a company purchased the phone for (see previous post re: buydowns).

Don't beat yourself up over it though, I don't expect a retail piss ant to fully understand things that are above you.
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texaswireless

Nov 23, 2007, 8:54 PM
I guess price sheets are above your pay scale. Out of the 25 or so phones we carry only 4 are below cost on a one year agreement.

I guess the company I own has better buying power that the little kiosk you clean.
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crackberry

Nov 23, 2007, 10:29 PM
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crackberry

Nov 23, 2007, 6:15 PM
3g-g-g-unit said:
texaswireless said:


2 year gets a subsidy where 1 yr and no contract usually do not.





???

This is wrong. AT&T's upgrade policy is similar to Sprint in the fact that a customer basically saves $150 off with a 2 year agreement and $75 with a 1 year agreement. And actually you can get a phone for $75 more than advertised prices after only 6 months by doing an "exception upgrade".

The major difference between the 2 is how they're advertised. ATT will always only advertise the least expensive option, which most accounts do not qualify for.

Hope I posted in the right place C bag.

sorry dude but one year upgrades are not longer offered. eithe...
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texaswireless

Nov 23, 2007, 8:56 PM
One year upgrades are offered here but we sell less than 1/2 of 1%.

Don't think this guy cares as much about being right as about being an a$$.
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crackberry

Nov 23, 2007, 6:17 PM
ecnar9 said:
Recent news states that existing customers can upgrade without renewing or extending a contract. As a TDMA customer (holding out for Q4 07 phones and the best deal), I get text messages from AT$T about upgrading to GSM. Does this mean that I can now upgrade without entering a new contract?
Thanks,

If this hasn't been covered, you CAN get a new phone and just pay retail price for the phone and not get a discount and not renew the contract.
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Blumpelstiltskin

Nov 24, 2007, 10:41 AM
We're talking about TDMA here - analog.

It's not a sim card based system... it's not like you can just buy a phone and stick your SIM in it. AT&T is making it nearly impossible for "blue" customers to keep what they currently have - not to mention the additional $9.99 more that TDMA customers pay. The FCC is shutting down TDMA - face it... game over... I shed a tear every time I tell someone I have to take away their $99.99 charter plan (unlimited minutes).

In my experience, TDMA customers are not allowed to change devices without migrating (changing over to GSM)... I'm unable to do it in my store - I don't know if cust. care is doing it, but I highly doubt it.

Even "blue" GSM accounts are hard to deal with - if your SIM card goes ...
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crackberry

Nov 24, 2007, 11:58 AM
Blumpelstiltskin said:
We're talking about TDMA here - analog.

It's not a sim card based system... it's not like you can just buy a phone and stick your SIM in it. AT&T is making it nearly impossible for "blue" customers to keep what they currently have - not to mention the additional $9.99 more that TDMA customers pay. The FCC is shutting down TDMA - face it... game over... I shed a tear every time I tell someone I have to take away their $99.99 charter plan (unlimited minutes).

In my experience, TDMA customers are not allowed to change devices without migrating (changing over to GSM)... I'm unable to do it in my store - I don't know if cust. care is doing it, but I highly doubt it.

Even "blue" GSM accounts are
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Blumpelstiltskin

Nov 24, 2007, 12:02 PM
Either way. He's going to get nowhere.
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texaswireless

Nov 25, 2007, 1:50 AM
Dude,

Crackberry is right. And he CAN get somewhere. He wants to buy GSM equipment without a new agreement. That can be easily done. Change technology in POS II is simple and straightforward.

Please watch what you say here. There aleady seems to be enough intentional misinformation here.
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